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Post by Paul on Thu 11 Feb 2016, 18:09


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       Hottest time of the year . Especially in the Valley of the SUN Casual Club C C .
  We will heat up your game with our well made tourneys . Get that burning desire back .
  Catch those links on fire as you tear up the courses .
  What it boils down to is we are the cure to that cold streak .
  Light a fire under your ass and shoot me a hot message to light you up .
  I will send you an invite in a flash .
  Lol.
  Thanx
  Paul
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subject title Re: If you have a good air conditioner

Post by Paul on Thu 11 Feb 2016, 18:11







  • pdb1
    7,872 Posts
    Sat, Aug 15 2015 10:16 PM

      Well it was fking hot  today . ASU move in day . Spent 4 hours in 117 degrees & 70% humidity moving my daughters stuff into her fancy new off campus dorm . 
      Rare high humidity like that . I was drenched .






  • andyson
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    Sun, Aug 16 2015 7:20 AM


     pdb1:

      Well it was fking hot  today . ASU move in day . Spent 4 hours in 117 degrees & 70% humidity moving my daughters stuff into her fancy new off campus dorm . 
      Rare high humidity like that . I was drenched .


    Not so rare if there was a rain shower yesterday but there was none.  No argument it was effin' hot in Phoenix yesterday, but no need to exaggerate. Highs were 114 and 33% humidity in Tempe yesterday.  That's bad enough for anyone!
     






  • donsprintr
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    Sun, Aug 16 2015 7:37 AM

    33% humidity Andy ? That's dry as dust buddy ...it's 76.1 degrees here right now ...
    HUMIDITY - 98% 
    Today it will only get up to 90 degrees ... but with THAT humidity level ?






  • andyson
    6,030 Posts
    Sun, Aug 16 2015 8:04 AM

    Yep Don, "It's a dry heat!" LOL
    7am here and 94 degrees with 33% humidity. People are out for their morning walk/run....
    I have much respect for the folks who are able to live in your conditions!  I'm not one of them for sure!
     





  • mathia14
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    Sun, Aug 16 2015 9:06 AM

    Multi-task here if you wear soap on a rope when outside.  Each step leaves a puddle of sweat.






  • pdb1
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    Sun, Aug 16 2015 10:47 AM

     
     andyson:
    Not so rare if there was a rain shower yesterday but there was none.  No argument it was effin' hot in Phoenix yesterday, but no need to exaggerate. Highs were 114 and 33% humidity in Tempe yesterday.  That's bad enough for anyone!

      Well . " Mr. andyson the great Sir " . What an honor to be graced with a reply from such an esteemed and legendary celebrity such as yourself .
      Not surprising that you took my context as possibly just another one of my " exaggerated dramatic statements to get the point across in the WGT forum recants of yesterdays conditions ".
      But this was a case that didn't need any enhancement . The temperature was again 117 as it was Friday ( on the unofficial digital billboard ) . Including intermittent yet frequent drizzling rain ( &  noticeably heavy Verga ) that also put the ( unofficial humidity % ) above  my estimated 70 % . 
      Nary are there occasions justifying the need for exaggerated weather casts here in 
      " The Valley of the SUN ".
      Just like on Friday when the official recorded temperature was 117 . Out here in Apache Junction an easy 119 , 120 was what our thermometers read . 
       Typical in yours and everyone else's hometown are the wide variety of expert meteorologists and veteran weatherpersons with all of their varying and disputing weather casts . 
      This was a case andyson where " you had to be there " .






  • YankeeJim
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    Sun, Aug 16 2015 10:50 AM


     andyson:

    Yep Don, "It's a dry heat!" LOL
    7am here and 94 degrees with 33% humidity. People are out for their morning walk/run..

    Heh, there's a lot to be said for that dry heat. Playing baseball in 94 degree heat in November there was nice! Wore a jersey under the uniform to catch the sweat and act as a cooler during the games. In between innings you could sit in the dugout and draw stuff in the dust with the sweat dripping off your saturated baseball hat.  LOL
    p.s., You think pdb knows where you live?  ;-)






  • pdb1
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    Sun, Aug 16 2015 11:00 AM


     donsprintr:

    33% humidity Andy ? That's dry as dust buddy ...it's 76.1 degrees here right now ...
    HUMIDITY - 98% 
    Today it will only get up to 90 degrees ... but with THAT humidity level ?


      Been there . Done that too . Lived in Houston for a year .

     donsprintr:
    That's dry as dust

      Very poor and inaccurate description for the less humid but no more tolerable , just as sweaty , baking in an oven feeling . Leaving you with the appearance of a tomato . Daily " Extreme Heat Advisory Conditions " here that as I said are in no way more tolerable than anywhere else .
      reference
     Is it too hot for golf?   pg. 3
     
     






  • donsprintr
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    Sun, Aug 16 2015 11:42 AM

    It wasn't meant to be taken literally ... it was meant as an exaggeration in comparison to 98% humidity ... I thought people understood hyperbole but apparently not ...
     pdb1:


     donsprintr:

    33% humidity Andy ? That's dry as dust buddy ...it's 76.1 degrees here right now ...
    HUMIDITY - 98% 
     


     

     donsprintr:
    That's dry as dust

      Very poor and inaccurate description 

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subject title Re: If you have a good air conditioner

Post by Paul on Thu 11 Feb 2016, 18:13



  • pdb1
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     donsprintr:

    It wasn't meant to be taken literally ... it was meant as an exaggeration in comparison to 98% humidity ... I thought people understood hyperbole but apparently not ...
     pdb1:


     donsprintr:

    33% humidity Andy ? That's dry as dust buddy ...it's 76.1 degrees here right now ...
    HUMIDITY - 98% 
     


     
     

     donsprintr:
    That's dry as dust

      Very poor and inaccurate description 
     
     


     


     You never know . There are some that feel that way . How about ? Hot is Hot .






  • andyson
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    Sun, Aug 16 2015 1:02 PM


     pdb1:
    But this was a case that didn't need any enhancement . The temperature was again 117 as it was Friday ( on the unofficial digital billboard ) . Including intermittent yet frequent drizzling rain ( noticeably heavy Verga ) that also put the ( unofficial humidity % ) above  my estimated 70 % . 

    Unofficial this, estimated that.......the weather station I cited was right there on Tempe Town Lake....next to the water...and said 33% max humidity..zero precip.  Verga?  LMAO  (check the Urban Dictionary)  Its Virga, rain that evaporates before hitting the ground.  And like the misters used in Tempe outdoors patios, has a cooling effect.

     pdb1:
    This was a case andyson where " you had to be there " .

    I am there, and have been here long enough to plan outdoors activity for before 9am and after 7pm this time of year.






  • andyson
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    Sun, Aug 16 2015 3:07 PM


     pdb1:


     donsprintr:
    That's dry as dust

      Very poor and inaccurate description 

    Sounds good and accurate to me Don. This dust looks pretty dry don't ya think? ;0)

    We're world famous for our dust storms.
     





  • pdb1
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    Sun, Aug 16 2015 3:20 PM

      The word "haboob" comes from the Arabic word habb, meaning “wind.” A haboob is a wall of dust as a result of amicroburst or downburst. The air forced downward is pushed forward by the front of a thunderstorm cell, dragging dust and debris with it, as it travels across the terrain.
      Haboobs occur mostly during the summer months in Phoenix, but are not restricted to the monsoon period. These dust storms are much more serious than dust devils.

      The wind during a haboob is usually up to about 30 mph and dust can rise high into the air as it blows over the Valley. A haboob can last for up to three hours.
      Phoenix experiences various degrees of dust storms, but the haboob is the largest and most dangerous. According to the National Weather Service, Phoenix experiences on average about three haboobs per year during the months of June through September.






  • pdb1
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    Sun, Aug 16 2015 3:23 PM


     andyson:
    We're world famous for our dust storms.


     pdb1:
    This was a case andyson where " you had to be there " .

      My mistake . Wasn't aware you are from here . 






  • pdb1
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    Sun, Aug 23 2015 3:32 AM


     andyson:
    have been here long enough to plan outdoors activity for before 9am and after 7pm this time of year.

      No dispute with that , The Idiots at ASU established that window from 10:00 AM to 2:00 PM for which 10's of thousands of students with the help of their parents of course , had to be completely moved in . It was total CHAOS . 

     andyson:
    Unofficial this, estimated that.......the weather station I cited was right there on Tempe Town Lake....next to the water...and said 33% max humidity..zero precip.  Verga?  LMAO  (check the Urban Dictionary)  Its Virga, rain that evaporates before hitting the ground.  And like the misters used in Tempe outdoors patios, has a cooling effect.

      So you're saying I and the 100 or two people in our immediate vicinity in Tempe , at ASU moving our Sophomore daughter into her fancy dorm , did not experience sprinkles throughout the day . That we must be lying because your weather station said 33 % max humidity , zero precip . Wow . I have never ever felt the need to lie or deceive . What I said is what happened .
    edit in italics 






  • frappefort
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    Sun, Aug 23 2015 4:27 AM

    Funny   how some will say there is no global warming ....lolllll         It  is all natural they say and normal .......              Yet most of us older Gent know it is getting worst  ,,,,,    Like Dylan song the time they are a changing .........                






  • pdb1
    7,872 Posts
    Sun, Aug 23 2015 4:36 AM


     frappefort:
    Yet most of us older Gent know it is getting worst

      To us the evidence is clear and global . It is funny and strange how many keep their heads in the sand and refuse to believe the obvious .





  • andyson
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    Sun, Aug 23 2015 11:55 AM


     pdb1:
    So you're saying I and the 100 or two people in our immediate vicinity did not experience sprinkles throughout the day . That we must be lying because your weather station said 33 % max humidity , zero precip .

    You said 'estimated 70% humidity".....You've been known to exaggerate dramatically....just sayin' an actual weather station close by differed greatly from what you "estimated".






  • Ducati916
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    Sun, Aug 23 2015 12:07 PM

    Andy...perhaps there was 100% participation in Apache Junction...not precipitation...

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Post by Paul on Thu 11 Feb 2016, 18:15



  • fatdan
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    Sun, Aug 23 2015 12:58 PM

    Many a year ago I was at the desert Marine Corp base in 29 Palms CA....well over 100*, you didn't sweat but your uniform turned white with a salt stain by mid day as the sweat evaporated it was so dry....
    Been in Phoenix, Houston, and other very hot areas in the summer...but I will take the dry heat over oppressive humidity any day!
    I used to think it was hot in Missouri with days of 97* with high humidity, I thought it was bad in FL. when your inland away from the ocean!
    However the worst summer heat I have ever seen is Camp Legeune North Carolina, I don't have a clue what the temp was or the humidity, all I know is your clothes got soaking wet while you were changing LOL, that was the worst heat I have experienced.






  • andyson
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    Sun, Aug 23 2015 1:40 PM

    @Ducati916 who said.....
    "Andy...perhaps there was 100% participation in Apache Junction...not precipitation..."

     
     






  • pdb1
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    Sun, Aug 23 2015 5:13 PM


     andyson:

    @Ducati916 who said.....
    "Andy...perhaps there was 100% participation in Apache Junction...not precipitation..."

     
     


      Lol . Good one .
     






  • pdb1
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    Sun, Aug 23 2015 5:24 PM

      The thing is . I said it sprinkled quite a lot that day so I was basing that 100 % humidity and taking your 33 % which I didn't doubt was reported by our oh so accurate weather people in in Az . I came up with 70 % off the top of my head . 

     andyson:
    .You've been known to exaggerate dramatically

      True statement . More likely when involved in a WGT debacle or fiasco . Something that virtually has no truth . 
     So I can see why you might have thought I was a couple of %'s of the mark .






  • pdb1
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    Sun, Aug 23 2015 5:33 PM

       andyson:
    .You've been known to exaggerate dramatically
     
      Yes surprising and newly discovered ability . Embellishments perhaps when the virtual topic allows . A lot of fun . I admit . Sometimes even effective . 






  • pdb1
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    Sun, Aug 23 2015 5:44 PM

     Here is an example , even an appropriate one at that . Of no embellishments or exaggerations needed for true life discussions .
    From the thread  
    Is it too hot for golf?


    pdb1
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    07-25-2015 12:24 AM

     navigater:
    But in Arizona & the southwest very little himidity.  Some people just don't know.  
     
      Ah , but there are some that do know . I was stranded in Houston Texas for a year . Having lived in the Arizona desert my entire life , I thought I knew what heat was . I did not .
      The year I spent there was one of the hottest on record . During the summer months being that that section of the Gulf of Mexico has some of the highest humidity anywhere . The daytime temps ranged from 100 to 110 with 99% humidity . I never dried off . Sweat through work was unbelievable .
      Roofing at the time cedar shake 18" hand splits . Had to tear off the first three layers first just pouring sweat . This fking roof was covered with hornets and wasp nests . The 3 of us ( started out with a crew of 10 , 7 quit ) got stung no less than 6 times each everyday . 
      Go shower never dry off . Sleep sweating never dry off . Back to work .Yes that was hot .





  • andyson
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    Sun, Aug 23 2015 7:55 PM


     pdb1:
    Of no embellishments or exaggerations needed


    That set off my BS alarm and pegged the BS detector meter!

     pdb1:
    The daytime temps ranged from 100 to 110 with 99% humidity

    I had a semester of Meteorology 101 as an elective while getting my engineering degree and something didn't sound right since air can hold more water vapor as the temperature rises. (That's why many clouds that form in the AZ high country (where its cool) dissipate when the reach the Valley of the Sun 100 degree air)
    Dew Point is the temperature where the air is saturated, holds as much water vapor as possible, and the water begins to condense out of the air. Like the water droplets on a cold drink.  That surface is colder than the surrounding air. cold enough so the water vapor in the air condenses on the glass.
    The Dew Point is a function of air temp and humidity at a constant barometric pressure. So given air temp and relative humidity Dew Point can be calculated. 
    I used an on line Dew Point Calculator.
    At 100 degrees and 99% humidity the Dew Point is 99
    At 110 degrees and 99% humidity the Dew Point is 109
    So your Dew Points in Houston would have been between 99 and 109 degrees F.
    As of 2011, the record Dew Point recorded in the U.S. by NOAA is only 90!
    It happened July 13th, 1995 at 5 pm in Appleton Wisconsin.  Source, page 2
    No way did you have 100/99 or 110/99 conditions in Houston or it would have been the record Dew Point!
    It appears you can't help but embellish or exaggerate everything!
    FYI the 117 with 70% humidity you claimed at ASU would have been another record Dew Point of 105






  • Ducati916
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    Sun, Aug 23 2015 8:51 PM

    Andy...stop picking on him.  100% of the dew points were in a CC tourney and the winner shot 110...therefore, 110 as a score x 100% participation =  record dew point of 110.....please go back and take Meteorology 102 and if you complete 100% of that class, you will then have a personal dew point of 102 x 100%...or, 102...so you see, that's 2 brand new records right here in the Valley of the Sun (CC)...
    Question for you though......I once cooked a frozen pizza at 425 degrees...the oven had 0% humidity I'm guessing..and I then put it on a plate that had some residual condensation as I just took it from the dishwasher....what was the dew point of my pizza and the beer which was chilled to 29.8 degrees....?





  • pdb1
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    Sun, Aug 23 2015 9:04 PM

      Well then FK you Mr. Andyson . The article refers to my adventure in Houston Texas . During which time in the summer months I was referring to I  remember that it didn't rain a couple few days that summer for several months .
      Care to look it up ? It was 1978 . Police brutality wrote a book there that Joe Arpaio soon read and quickly followed suit .
      The Astro's sucked . I went to Pasadena to Gilley's and met Mickey Gilley . almost got my ass beat by some cowboys playing pool there that just didn't like long haired Hippies . But my room mate  picked 3 of them up slammed them into a juke box and we left .
      It rained almost every minute of every day for months and months and months . I have a lot more stories about that year in Houston . All of them true as blue . 
      Getting a little tired of you questioning my honesty and integrity . But I know that is what you guys do so well . I guess I can't expect any more . 






  • pdb1
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    Sun, Aug 23 2015 9:06 PM


     Ducati916:
    Andy...stop picking on him.  100% of the dew points were in a CC tourney and the winner shot 110...therefore, 110 as a score x 100% participation =  record dew point of 110.....please go back and take Meteorology 102 and if you complete 100% of that class, you will then have a personal dew point of 102 x 100%...or, 102...so you see, that's 2 brand new records right here in the Valley of the Sun (CC)...

      Lol That's pretty funny .

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Post by Paul on Thu 11 Feb 2016, 18:17



  • pdb1
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    Sun, Aug 23 2015 9:17 PM

     So if all the CC members play CC tourneys . 
      That is the definition of participation .
      I wasn't happy with that . I wanted frequent committed participation 
      That is what I have now probably 400% more participation than the definition covers .
      Easily  400 % more than what we had .
      So  not wanting to astound you anymore I underestimated our participation by 300 % . 
      Participation : the state of being related to a larger whole .
      and yes , that is the correct definition . in fact , funny thing . all the definitions are correct .






  • andyson
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    Mon, Aug 24 2015 9:52 AM

    Paul, Is there a specific time interval you look at?  In other words, a member is participating if they play a CC tournament once a week.

     pdb1:
    That is what I have now probably 400% more participation than the definition covers .

    How do you calculate more than 100% participation?  If all members frequently play your CC tournaments isn't that 100%?






  • pdb1
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     pdb1:

    That is what I have now probably 400% more participation than the definition covers .
      Easily  400 % more than what we had .
      So  not wanting to astound you anymore I underestimated our participation by 300 % . 


     andyson:
    How do you calculate more than 100% participation?  If all members frequently play your CC tournaments isn't that 100%?


     pdb1:

      Participation : the state of being related to a larger whole .
      and yes , that is the correct definition . in fact , funny thing . all the definitions are correct .

      Duh Mr. Son . Exactly my point . Remember you were the one that disputed my first use of a participation % . Following that I tried to point out that in all cases I was using the term correctly ( and being that this is one of those virtual scenarios , there was plenty of room for dramatic examples . ) As usual and very annoying I have to explain to you in mass details why I am so comfortable and correct in the statements and decisions that have so many factors involved in every scenario when building , running , managing , being diplomatic , fair , and mature in the CC process . Keeping in mind that every member has different circumstances . Very few decisions are based on a cut and dry number or time frame , or statistic . 
      Since it bothers you that I used figures of more than 100% to paint a picture for clarification . let me amend it to a ratio factor . Is that Ok ?
      The increase in participation is now 4 to 1  in terms of frequency ( this is only a visual and obvious observation ) and not based on factual calculated numbers over specific period of time . Lol . I am quite sure you already know this and get it and think you are just stirring the pot to see if I will bite . Which I am happily playing along with because I do these arbitrary CC decisions frequently . And know I owe no one any explanations .
      In fact my users manual " Paul's Guide to How to Arbitrarily Calculate CC Participation in Some Cattywampus Manner " is almost complete and should be in all your emails soon . Complete with a special revised 534 steps to determining the criteria .
     






  • pdb1
    7,872 Posts
    Mon, Aug 24 2015 11:19 AM


     andyson:
    Paul, Is there a specific time interval you look at?  In other words, a member is participating if they play a CC tournament once a week.

      Lol . Ok I'll bite again . Each members circumstances are unique . The newer the member the wider the range of determining factors ( see page 713 in the guide " 534 steps to determining criteria ". The longer a member has been in the CC a much narrower window with acceptable fk off excuses will be allowed .
      As is now more than evident participation in our CC is high up on the list . But there are many other common sense , goes without saying factors to contributing to the success of a CC that one will either come to learn and jump on board , or just say fk all that shyt and quit , or after a few polite reminders eventually say Duh , that's not so bad and all is good . Or just will not and never intend to comply with the dozen suggestions I message to them over about a 2 to 6 week period of time . Knowing just how stubborn , dense , close minded and ignorant many members are about what a CC like ours has learned to be the most efficient , effective , practical , fair , fun , interesting direction for success . If after all that , they still don't get it . I Regretfully  remove them , with an option to return in the future if at some point they decide to . And many have .
      Yes . This is different than other CC's I presume . IDK & IDC . We are all good with our fully involved exciting CC . It works for us .





  • andyson
    6,030 Posts
    Mon, Aug 24 2015 12:52 PM

    Paul, thank you for the very clear and concise turbo encabulator like answers to my questions.









  • pdb1
    7,872 Posts
    Mon, Sep 21 2015 8:35 PM

      Lol . that's all very interesting but did you know that when the malphagstic temperature of the horizon becomes so as to caloracize the impurient  indentations of the hemisperical analogy . The borax carbustus becomes surcharged with infinistals and is therefore deprived of its fisural disquisitions .

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