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Post by Paul Tue 10 Aug 2021 - 15:10

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pdb1
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Sun, Jul 18 2021 5:56 PM
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CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote Storm8338:
I'm tired of continuing to report them
  You'd be less tired if you didn't worry about it so much .
CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote Ketket1:
I think too many people are too quick to call someone a "cheater".
 As is obvious . Well said .
CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote HackWilson1930:
I know better than to blame my equipment or call someone out as a "cheater".
  You got that right . Bingo .
CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote bossbird:
Pretty sad you seem to think you have the right to bully me and accuse me of being sad , when you seem to making a very strong point of trying to put my comments down . 
  Wow . Everything was just fine till I read that . Neither of you seemed to be hearing the other . But he most certainly did not do that . I never saw him before just now .
  Having been a CC owner . With people concerned about every new player that came in . I'm talking dozens ( even more ) . I can say with surety that 99 % ( more ) are not cheaters in any way . But that there are many lovers of the game . That are that damn good , and that damn lucky . Yes , luck if you do and luck if you don't .
  There is always a good explanation . If you ever get to the heart of it .
  I suggest not worrying about it . At all .
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pdb1
22,360 Posts
Sun, Jul 18 2021 6:06 PM
CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote Antonia2020:
I'm totally frustrated. I can't understand how some players can hit every approach shot to within a yard of the hole every shot. Plus they do it in less than 15 seconds. When I ask they just say their lucky. 
Granted I got to Legend by level 91 and I'm still limited to club selection, but watching a level 95 Legend hit perfect shots every hole and using a free ball drives me crazy! That meter speed is imposable to hit a ding on every shot. 
I play every day 3 to 4 hours but I'm stuck. How can I get better? Any help would be appreciated.
 
  If I may make a suggestion . Play more CTTH's and BLITZES . Your precision and control and confidence will grow rapidly .
  Very good 1st Post .
  Keep playing and enjoying . .
  Welcome to the Forums .
  CONGRATS .
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pdb1
22,360 Posts
Sun, Jul 18 2021 5:56 PM
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  I forgot one .
CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote AnaNikolaj:
Either a restart or a multi, in both cases breaking WGT rules (restarts aren't allowed to play any credit involved games, before they reach their previous tier).
  Either of those are likely the only other explanation . But no one is breaking any rules .
  Multis are very unlikely . They are short lived , exposed soon 
  But restarts , To officially restart , one must agree to some WGT conditions . While having the original account deleted . They are not a concern . And are not cheaters.
  The other likely restarts . Do not inform WGT . They just restart as a new player . Continue improving their game . And forget all about the account that disappointed them so . They are not cheaters either .
  If somebody like above is that obvious to you . Then he is obviously doing something right .




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tramilleo
1,627 Posts
Sun, Jul 18 2021 7:39 PM
^^^^^^^^^^  100%
Response to anna not you Paul
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Tue, Jul 20 2021 8:35 AM
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The ideal that to get it close requires a “ding” is half the problem most people have. To get close without the best balls and equipment slight miss hits are better. You can hold into sidewinds and get the ball to stop. It’s the only way. Same as putting, I always play for a slight draw or fade depending on the shot. When you master this the approach play will be dialled in, only rough aiming is needed. And when it doesn’t work remember….it’s just a game and that miss was all ready pre programmed in. All the best with the quest!




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pdb1
22,360 Posts
Tue, Jul 20 2021 12:58 PM
CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote WelshB0mber:
The ideal that to get it close requires a “ding” is half the problem most people have.
  That;s right . Don't sweat it .
CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote WelshB0mber:
To get close without the best balls and equipment slight miss hits are better. You can hold into sidewinds and get the ball to stop. It’s the only way. Same as putting, I always play for a slight draw or fade depending on the shot. When you master this the approach play will be dialled in, only rough aiming is needed. And when it doesn’t work remember….it’s just a game and that miss was all ready pre programmed in. All the best with the quest!
  Well said .
  GR8 1st Post .
  Keep playing and enjoying .
  Welcome to the forums .
  CONGRATS .
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maoriand1
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Tue, Jul 20 2021 11:55 PM
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Topgolf wgt is just a shame.. I thought they would have saved this game from cheaters but they just Don t matter.. Lot of people is not playing anymore.. And this is what they deserve.. People with one year of game able to make 54 and 27 everywhere.. No words.. Shame.
 



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pdb1
22,360 Posts
Thu, Jul 22 2021 6:57 AM
CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote maoriand1:
Topgolf wgt is just a shame.. I thought they would have saved this game from cheaters but they just Don t matter.. Lot of people is not playing anymore.. And this is what they deserve.. People with one year of game able to make 54 and 27 everywhere.. No words.. Shame.
 
  I need to respond to this . Although it does seem to be a bit off . It isn't .
  Back in 2015 when a dozen of my CC members went full time Mobile . I think almost all of them used Iphones .
  They then even more quickly excelled through the ranks to Champion . Reporting that their Mobile experience had them practically unable to miss .
  So I personally witnessed many that just clicked in Mobile . Also able to maintain the same level on their Mac's .
  Others find it easier on Android . And now find PCEA to be a breeze .
  All within a year maybe 2 .
  I have played over 400 coin games . And I'm pretty competitive . but so are the coin Tour Pro's and Masters .
  Tough games . Right now I'm on a 14 w's out of the last 16 games since the 20th .
  Most of the Legends and Tour Legends I play are ex Flashers Like myself . Even competition there .
  But I never mastered my Android . I play it sometimes and have improved . But many just got it like that . And very quickly .
  I still play a lot of Stroke Solo and MP . Alt Shot , and coins . I haven't seen any cheaters .

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maoriand1
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Fri, Jul 23 2021 12:15 AM
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If u want see some cheaters or double account just watch the earning leaderboard.. It s pretty easy find em
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pdb1
22,360 Posts
Fri, Jul 23 2021 1:14 PM
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  • CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote maoriand1:
    If u want see some cheaters or double account just watch the earning leaderboard.. It s pretty easy find em
      I wouldn't even know where to find it . Much less what to look for .
      If I did . I am confident that there would be no cheaters listed anywhere . No players or Admin would allow that for 1 minute .



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    Fri, Jul 23 2021 1:31 PM
    It's really the right comment, this is what I wanted to say, but I'm not good at English. Because almost everyone always accuses me of cheating. (If I hit well, play fast and win) I don't even know how to cheat. (never thought of cheating) (such as a ruler or a calculator or others don't) I'm just playing repeatedly or most of the time I play par threes a lot.
     
    Thankyou pdb1 VOTS
    Smile b o




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    maoriand1
    1,241 Posts
    Mon, Jul 26 2021 12:11 AM
    CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote pdb1:
    CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote maoriand1:
    If u want see some cheaters or double account just watch the earning leaderboard.. It s pretty easy find em
      I wouldn't even know where to find it . Much less what to look for .
      If I did . I am confident that there would be no cheaters listed anywhere . No players or Admin would allow that for 1 minute .
    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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pdb1
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Wed, Jul 28 2021 11:04 AM
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  • CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote Ketket1:
    I came across a Tour Pro the other day. Played in a TP Par 5 front nine event. He was Level 106. Had all the best clubs and best balls. Had 1224 ranked rounds, was only in WGT 6 weeks. Now a TP at level 106 with all the best clubs and 1,224 ranked rounds in 6 weeks.
      No you didn't . Especially the 6 weeks part . I'm calling major false exaggeration .( that is long for BS ) . It just could not and would not happen EVER .
      But as has been pointed out . There are many long time original Mobile players that had no clue of the established tiering system . WGT never mentioned it to them .
      Most cannot explain the vast discrepancies in their stats . As they just played their asses off . And are now what they are .
      Most and many are just now learning that there is a system . That there is information and protocol .
      At WGT.com and WGT.com/forums .



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    Mythanatos
    1,909 Posts
    Wed, Jul 28 2021 12:46 PM
    CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote pdb1:
    No you didn't . Especially the 6 weeks part . I'm calling major false exaggeration .( that is long for BS ) . It just could not and would not happen EVER .
     
    see above.
     



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    pdb1
    22,360 Posts
    Thu, Jul 29 2021 6:55 AM
    CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote Mythanatos:
    see above.
      What did I miss ? Except for a 1st Poster . But I coulda missed something .
      Anyway .
    CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote freeway191:
    It's really the right comment, this is what I wanted to say, but I'm not good at English. Because almost everyone always accuses me of cheating. (If I hit well, play fast and win) I don't even know how to cheat. (never thought of cheating) (such as a ruler or a calculator or others don't) I'm just playing repeatedly or most of the time I play par threes a lot.
     
    Thankyou pdb1 VOTS
    Smile b o
      Good 1st Post . No worries freeway . You are all good . Just do this to them CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  2037126908
      You seem to play a lot . Keep enjoying .
      Welcome to the Forums .
      CONGRATS .
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    Mythanatos
    1,909 Posts
    Thu, Jul 29 2021 10:45 AM
    the only way to do it in 6 weeks is via macro.
    Im not even sure that's enough time but it's certainly the only way if the time period is true.



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    pdb1
    22,360 Posts
    Thu, Jul 29 2021 3:42 PM
    CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote Mythanatos:
    the only way to do it in 6 weeks is via macro.
    Im not even sure that's enough time but it's certainly the only way if the time period is true.
      Oh , I see . I don't have any clue what macro is . Amassing various stats and what ? 1200 rounds . Is going to take some time . If it doesn't . The player will be disabled before we get to talk about him here in the forums .
      I have that much faith .



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    tramilleo
    1,627 Posts
    Fri, Jul 30 2021 5:36 AM
    ^^^^^^ you know you have a smart phone with google..... right.....

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Mythanatos
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Mon, Aug 2 2021 10:20 AM
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  • CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote pdb1:
    Oh , I see . I don't have any clue what macro is .
     
    a macro is essentially a program that runs the game for you. any game.
    generally it records mouse movements and clicks and then repeats them in a loop.
    So what some have done, (several of the level 200s did it this way), is load up a custom par 3 course where the holes all have water. kia 17 or congo 10 as examples. 
    the macro hits the (starter) ball into the water and repeats this over and over for each hole to max score it then repeats for 8 more holes. 
     
    Im guessing on the time because i've never done it but i would assume a round could be done in 5 minutes. at worst 10 minutes and the computer is running 24/7. if 5 minutes is accurate that's 12 rounds/hr. 288 a day.  if it's 10 minutes a round that's 6 per hour or 144/day. so whatever the XP is per round for 80 ish hits on 9 holes x 144 can be done in a day. minimum. 
    macros got their biggest start for RPGs. either by leveling or if someone found a money making discrepancy. 
    macros are how people made hundreds of thousands if not millions of WGT credits by watching videos. the computer did the watching and clicking while they were at work, at school and or sleeping.  
    it's fairly easy to spot who has done it or is doing it. look at score history.



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    SamSpayed
    3,223 Posts
    Mon, Aug 2 2021 1:45 PM
    CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote Mythanatos:
    it's fairly easy to spot who has done it or is doing it. look at score history.
    It's harder to spot if they use their macros to play in Practice mode.



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    pdb1
    22,360 Posts
    Mon, Aug 2 2021 10:39 PM
    CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote Mythanatos:
    CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote pdb1:
    Oh , I see . I don't have any clue what macro is .
     
    a macro is essentially a program that runs the game for you. any game.
    generally it records mouse movements and clicks and then repeats them in a loop.
    So what some have done, (several of the level 200s did it this way), is load up a custom par 3 course where the holes all have water. kia 17 or congo 10 as examples. 
    the macro hits the (starter) ball into the water and repeats this over and over for each hole to max score it then repeats for 8 more holes. 
     
    Im guessing on the time because i've never done it but i would assume a round could be done in 5 minutes. at worst 10 minutes and the computer is running 24/7. if 5 minutes is accurate that's 12 rounds/hr. 288 a day.  if it's 10 minutes a round that's 6 per hour or 144/day. so whatever the XP is per round for 80 ish hits on 9 holes x 144 can be done in a day. minimum. 
    macros got their biggest start for RPGs. either by leveling or if someone found a money making discrepancy. 
    macros are how people made hundreds of thousands if not millions of WGT credits by watching videos. the computer did the watching and clicking while they were at work, at school and or sleeping.  
    it's fairly easy to spot who has done it or is doing it. look at score history.
    CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote SamSpayed:
    CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote Mythanatos:
    it's fairly easy to spot who has done it or is doing it. look at score history.
    It's harder to spot if they use their macros to play in Practice mode.
      Wait a minute . I can see it being done in many other formats . I can see it with the videos .
      If it could even be used in practice mode . There wouldn't be a count for anything .
      I believe Macro's exist . But  has there been proof that it has occurred in level 200's here . You said you could tell by looking at their score history .
      I do not believe that . This WGT online virtual golf game is such a complex and advanced program . I don't think it would allow auto programs like that to run .
      If you saw a profile where you thought their score history had been filled with Macro rounds . Then I want some of what your smoking .
      There is no freakin way that could happen . They would be all over it like white on rice .
      Come on . Show me some proof .



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    SamSpayed
    3,223 Posts
    Tue, Aug 3 2021 1:22 PM
    CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote pdb1:
      If it could even be used in practice mode . There wouldn't be a count for anything .
    Correct.  Which is why it's harder to spot.
    CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote pdb1:
      Come on . Show me some proof .
    I'm not going to rat anybody out.  I'll just say I'm aware of one or more people who have done it.  (For the record, I'm not one of them.)  And even if I did provide proof, I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't be able to understand it, since your posts here in the Forums have shown time and time again that your comprehension of even basic IT principles is next to none.  I mean, for gods sake, you didn't even know what a macro is.



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    tramilleo
    1,627 Posts
    Tue, Aug 3 2021 4:58 PM
    100+ ^^^^^^^



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    pdb1
    22,360 Posts
    Tue, Aug 3 2021 9:40 PM
    CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote SamSpayed:
    I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't be able to understand it, since your posts here in the Forums have shown time and time again that your comprehension of even basic IT principles is next to none.  I mean, for gods sake, you didn't even know what a macro is.
      That's not entirely true . I actually have heard of Excel Macro recording for making charts . I guess I didn't catch the similarity .
      And there are other Macro's too .
      I still don't think anyone could get very far here before it was detected . Like an hour .
      No . I just do not believe that it wouldn't be detected .
      Everything VEM is about is to counter action like that . The VEM program could never give over control to anything like that .
      I would think that there are security defenses to alarm and shut down any attempts.



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    Mythanatos
    1,909 Posts
    Wed, Aug 4 2021 7:49 AM
    CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote pdb1:
    There is no freakin way that could happen . They would be all over it like white on rice .
    Once again you don't know what you are talking about. You seem to be a nice guy and have your heart in the right place but no one spreads more WGT disinformation (unknowingly) than you do. 
    I'm not going to prove anything to you. You can either teach yourself what you need to know and research it yourself or don't believe me. I really don't care if you do or don't. 
    FACT: Some people have macroed their way to 200. 



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    pdb1
    22,360 Posts
    Thu, Aug 5 2021 4:16 PM
    CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote Mythanatos:
    CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote pdb1:
    There is no freakin way that could happen . They would be all over it like white on rice .
    Once again you don't know what you are talking about. You seem to be a nice guy and have your heart in the right place but no one spreads more WGT disinformation (unknowingly) than you do. 
      Okay . Maybe I can't get proof . I don't even want it .But I don't believe it
    CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote Mythanatos:
    no one spreads more WGT disinformation (unknowingly) than you do.
    .
      There again . That is so freakin bold . It sounds like you know it to be right . But again . You can't prove it .
      You can't find any disinformation I have spread . Anywhere .
      At the most you might be able to find something that I have a different opinion on then someone else .
      On the rare occasion that I error . Very rare . I quickly apologize and admit I was mistaken .
      But that isn't any reason to falsely accuse me . Because you aren't confident about your own claims .



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    tramilleo
    1,627 Posts
    Fri, Aug 6 2021 4:53 AM
    ^^^^^^^ THIS GUY, JUST GO AWAY

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pdb1
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Fri, Aug 6 2021 3:10 PM
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  • CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote tramilleo:
    ^^^^^^^ THIS GUY, JUST GO AWAY 
      It is not going to happen on your request . If you ask me . Several of you look more absurd ( for lack of a better word ) with your claims . Than anything I said .



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    pdb1
    22,360 Posts
    Fri, Aug 6 2021 3:12 PM
      I am willing to drop this . And say no more .
    EDIT : i was willing to drop it . Assuming you all would also end it . After reading the insults left below . I had to respond . Without insults or berating anyone . But in my experience , the mods will decide not to post anymore of my posts , keep me moderated . And continue to allow people to spew anything they please .
    8/9/21 approx 1:20 PM .
    continue
    8/10/21 approx 2:40 PM

      Exactly as I suspected . I made a response to the insults . A completely tame post . They won't post it . That is so the last word is always an insult to me . This happens all the time . Just a fact .
      After that I responded to the video question . Totally benign post . Won't post that one either .
      Seems fair .




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    tramilleo
    1,627 Posts
    Sat, Aug 7 2021 1:17 PM
    I never claimed anything, but i would claim you to be a forum troll 100%



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    SamSpayed
    3,223 Posts
    Sat, Aug 7 2021 4:07 PM
    CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote pdb1:
      I am willing to drop this . And say no more .
    Thank goodness.



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    twinponds169
    2,575 Posts
    Sat, Aug 7 2021 4:11 PM
    CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote SamSpayed:
    Thank goodness.
    Don't believe it.



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    tramilleo
    1,627 Posts
    Sat, Aug 7 2021 6:01 PM
    ^^^^^+10000



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    PureGro1
    525 Posts
    Sun, Aug 8 2021 9:48 AM
    Just to recap...

    1. People Cheat
    2. Not everyone who beats you is a Cheater




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    Mythanatos
    1,909 Posts
    Mon, Aug 9 2021 7:35 AM
    CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote pdb1:
    CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote Mythanatos:
    CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote pdb1:
    There is no freakin way that could happen . They would be all over it like white on rice .
    Once again you don't know what you are talking about. You seem to be a nice guy and have your heart in the right place but no one spreads more WGT disinformation (unknowingly) than you do. 
      Okay . Maybe I can't get proof . I don't even want it .But I don't believe it
    CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote Mythanatos:
    no one spreads more WGT disinformation (unknowingly) than you do.
    .
      There again . That is so freakin bold . It sounds like you know it to be right . But again . You can't prove it .
      You can't find any disinformation I have spread . Anywhere .
      At the most you might be able to find something that I have a different opinion on then someone else .
      On the rare occasion that I error . Very rare . I quickly apologize and admit I was mistaken .
      But that isn't any reason to falsely accuse me . Because you aren't confident about your own claims .
    the nicest way i can say this is you are basically the equivalent of someone that barely understands algebra trying to tell someone that they can't use first derivative  to find velocity and second derivative to find acceleration in a physics problem. 
    your wgt knowledge level is poor, your tech knowledge is zero but you don't realize it and just won't ever stop saying wrong things. You want proof but we all know it's like trying to prove to a blind man that the color red exists. 
    you just don't have the basic knowledge or ability to educate yourself  to understand what we are saying.

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3:03 PM (6 minutes ago)
From the thread https://www.wgt.com/forums/t/680441.aspx?PageIndex=1

  As usual . Someone doesn't like something I posted . They take it upon themselves to berate me and insult me and discredit me . They see other people doing it all the time . So why not . The mods encourage it .
  Here is what this guy said after we had agreed to end the BS .


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Mythanatos
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Mon, Aug 9 2021 7:35 AM
CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote pdb1:
CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote Mythanatos:
CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote pdb1:
There is no freakin way that could happen . They would be all over it like white on rice .
Once again you don't know what you are talking about. You seem to be a nice guy and have your heart in the right place but no one spreads more WGT disinformation (unknowingly) than you do. 
  Okay . Maybe I can't get proof . I don't even want it .But I don't believe it
CURRENT PROBLEMS WITH MODERATION  Icon-quote Mythanatos:
no one spreads more WGT disinformation (unknowingly) than you do.
.
  There again . That is so freakin bold . It sounds like you know it to be right . But again . You can't prove it .
  You can't find any disinformation I have spread . Anywhere .
  At the most you might be able to find something that I have a different opinion on then someone else .
  On the rare occasion that I error . Very rare . I quickly apologize and admit I was mistaken .
  But that isn't any reason to falsely accuse me . Because you aren't confident about your own claims .
the nicest way i can say this is you are basically the equivalent of someone that barely understands algebra trying to tell someone that they can't use first derivative  to find velocity and second derivative to find acceleration in a physics problem. 
your wgt knowledge level is poor, your tech knowledge is zero but you don't realize it and just won't ever stop saying wrong things. You want proof but we all know it's like trying to prove to a blind man that the color red exists. 
you just don't have the basic knowledge or ability to educate yourself  to understand what we are saying.
  <^><^><^><^><^><^>
So this is when moderation usually decides to block my posts . Not giving me a chance to defend myself .
  When I do defend myself . I don't insult or berate anyone else .

I was right . Moderation will not post my response . Here it is .


the nicest way i can say this is you are basically the equivalent of someone that barely understands algebra trying to tell someone that they can't use first derivative  to find velocity and second derivative to find acceleration in a physics problem. 
your wgt knowledge level is poor, your tech knowledge is zero but you don't realize it and just won't ever stop saying wrong things. You want proof but we all know it's like trying to prove to a blind man that the color red exists. 
you just don't have the basic knowledge or ability to educate yourself  to understand what we are saying.  

  Et tu Brute , tou*che' , or whatever . With your response , are you slowly trying to recruit yourself into the ever hated circle of forum rats ? Who think it is normal behavior to degrade and discredit , insult and pass judgement on to other people ?
  I can and do understand algebra .
your wgt knowledge level is poor,
  Lol . That one is out of left field . My WGT knowledge is way beyond what you will ever know .
  I won't respond to anything else .
  It turns out I did know what Macros is . I just hadn't related it to gaming . Never needed to . And from what I am seeing . There is no reason to believe it is being used here in WGT .
  When I was in a CC . I saw several highly motivated players climb to Champion tier in 7 to 10 months . I have looked at many others that have risen in similar time frames . None of them cheated in anyway .
  I know that if a few drew my attention . Then many others would draw the attention of the QA team .
  You may not like the things I say . But my intent is not to discredit you . If you make statements though . You should be prepared to back them up .
  You have not done that .
<^><^><^><^><^>
  Now , what is wrong with that post ? Why is the last post in the thread the one insulting me ? Why am I not allowed to counter ? Why is this allowed to continue ? What about this very common scenario shows fair and professional moderation ?
  Here is my post the day before .


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pdb1
22,360 Posts
Fri, Aug 6 2021 3:12 PM
  I am willing to drop this . And say no more .
EDIT : i was willing to drop it . Assuming you all would also end it . After reading the insults left below . I had to respond . Without insults or berating anyone . But in my experience , the mods will decide not to post anymore of my posts , keep me moderated . And continue to allow people to spew anything they please .
8/9/21 approx 1:20 PM .
continue
8/10/21 approx 2:40 PM

  Exactly as I suspected . I made a response to the insults . A completely tame post . They won't post it . That is so the last word is always an insult to me . This happens all the time . Just a fact .
  After that I responded to the video question . Totally benign post . Won't post that one either .
  Seems fair .

<^><^><^><^><^><^>

  Why do you have it out for me ? Don't you think enough is enough ?
  What do I have to do to end this moderation ? I want to know . I want a response . Please .
Thank you .
I think it is time for some action to be taken . Somehow I am sure that my hundreds of positive and very helpful posts , will not matter . My tribute posts and trophies which number in the thousands . My 1st Poster welcome trophy's . Which had the effect of stymieing the forum rats  if nothing else . But has many positive repercussions besides .
  Not to mention my serious efforts to provide the QA team with as much data regarding current critical errors . Is no doubt extremely helpful and beneficial .
  Those don't mean anything . Hypothetically .
  And will be completely overlooked when a decision has to be made to do something . Because I finally blew the whistle to some higher ups in TopGolf . Hypothetically .
  The heat gets turned up . And the decision is made to ban me . Because look at all the damage I do . Right ? Wrong . Hypothetically .
  I am not a risk , or a threat , I am a positive influence for many . I have the wall posts and PM messages to prove it . Amounting into the dozens .
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