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Re: Where are the Flags ?By Bertasion in Valley of the Sun Casual Club The other day upon the heather fair I hit a flagstick that was not there. I saw it's shadow and heard the clank but where it stood was just a blank. It was not there again today. I wonder when it will come back and stay. Brian
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Post by Paul Sun 05 Mar 2023, 3:38 pm

IDK anything

Is what you probably think about me and my newest interjection into the topic about cheaters .

That I just don't know anything .

That's what they all say . That I don't know . So I should just stay out of it

" They all " meaning the high end , spoiled never had this problem and that . Always top running machines and the very best connections available .

Yes those . The vast minority . The ones that I wasn't even talking to , to begin with .

Of course they don't agree with what I say . They have never experienced it . And therefore think it doesn't exist . Lol .

The truth is . I did learn much about WGT in the 5000 ranked rounds I played and then I learned even more in the 3000 coin games I played after that .

How could I not ?


The truth is that there are many cheaters . All over . Always there . Always trying to come up with ways to crack the system.


Another fact is that PCEA is overflowing with sensitive glitches and errors . That can cause havoc at any turn .

It is also true that a GR8 many players have top level machines to play with . And for the most part play other players with the same .

 Much less likely to encounter many of these game/ round ending glitches and errors .

But especially in this newer generation . But even all along since the start of WGT there are high and even higher numbers of players with not so GR8 connections and lesser devices . That is more normal than the elite will believe .

That is why they are elite . There aren't that many of them . So their upitty ( negative ) opinions don't mean much .


That would be most of WGTers . That could not and would not ever be able to obtain a worthy device .Equivalent to the ones used to test . And the ones used by the elite .

People know this because from the beginning there have been 365/24/7/ year round in CC giveaways .

And a couple few in the Forums each year .

But most are not in a CC or ever go to the Forums . And come from every corner of the world .

Players that struggle with buying another pack of balls . Much less consider an upgrade .

 You can't ask the wife about it . She aready thinks you're married to the game . And love it more than her . This has been confirmed by many .

What do you think would happen if you said you needed to get a computer with more than 2 g ram ? Preferably at least 16 . **** would hit the fan .

And you would never lie to her . Except maybe that last little upgrade .

Others it is completely an economic , monetary nothing left after the budget concern . They just don't have the money .

These majority of players have a completely different WGT experience than the other fortunate high end players .

I know . I've been there .

Especially PC players . I am sure the same is true for phones as well .

 Most of us/them know that they can't say anything or complain knowing they are playing on a rust bucket computer .

I repeat that also .The truth is that there are many cheaters . All over . Always there . Always trying to come up with ways to crack the system.


But this WGT system as you know is very precise and one must have extreme controlled accuracy .
It doesn't take much to shank a shot or crash the game . Especially in this joke for a platform PCEA .

 That is the main point I have on this .

It is my opinion that much of what chaos we see and hear about is the results of . Players with slow machines and weak internet . Playing a highly precise system . Designed and tested by high end devices . ( riddled with glitches ) . Set up for failure to many .

It is obvious to me that the very tiny % of cheaters are exploiting and giving a bad name to players that have a hard time even connecting and completing 1 round .

All these various glitches and errors have already existed forever . That's why they already have hundreds of specific error codes already written for them .

I believe they take these very seriously . And are resticted and denied the resources necessary resolve these matters .

The latest report is that the tech that  basically created and managed the Mobile Algorythm . Is no longer around .

If their R & D department is that small . And the departure of just one tech . Causes a halt on what is right now . A very critical issue . Then they are a hurting bunch .

When they first mistakenly decided  to isolate the Coin format from the established WGT.com protocol . By letting some guy create a separate Algorythm . Excluding ranked rounds and normal tier progression . Using high numbers of Coin rounds as a measure .

They used no foresight .

Now they are in a big bind . Recent enlightenment has brought to their attention . That after a certain low number of ranked rounds played by these exclusively Coin players .

The Mobile Algorythm disables it self . Now providing no means for progression for these exclusive Coin players . That dabbled in the ranked rounds .

Other than the normal WGT.com written in stone , good as gold , only valid path for progression known .

Which if that is the case ? Why then did they not inform them of these established protocols . Years ago when they ran across the app on their phone ?

And now the guy is gone . . When the need to create an all new algorythm . That tries to mesh the two different Algorythms . To try and quell the inevitable upcoming storm brewing . When all these mobile players are forced to take this game even more seriously than they could have ever imagined .
Oh buddy . I sure hope they figure that one out .

But judging by history . Looking at these PCEA errors below . And that they may even be getting worse .

For example :

LOADING ISSUES

SET UP TO FAIL Error_18

There are so many of these . I recorded only a small fraction of them .

SET UP TO FAIL Loadin16


SET UP TO FAIL Coin_525
SET UP TO FAIL Resume10



SET UP TO FAIL 9_26_d11
SET UP TO FAIL Were_s11


SET UP TO FAIL Coin_639
SET UP TO FAIL Oops_b14


GAME OVER
These occur when your opponent leaves the game . And after 1 or 2 cycles of
SET UP TO FAIL Game_p22
And this
SET UP TO FAIL Coin_427

This is the default

SET UP TO FAIL Coin_918

Lol this one is the same as above . I never left , I sat there and watched these happen . If I left how could I see that screen ?

SET UP TO FAIL Coin_917

Also the opponent left . I have never forfeited . EVER .

SET UP TO FAIL Coin_640

Who knows ?

SET UP TO FAIL Game_o18

Again another mystery

SET UP TO FAIL Coin_727


SET UP TO FAIL Game_o20

SHOWDOWN ERRORS

SET UP TO FAIL Showdo39
SET UP TO FAIL Bbq_sh10
SET UP TO FAIL 9_26_g11

GAME LAGS

SET UP TO FAIL Long_l12

SET UP TO FAIL G_paus11

SET UP TO FAIL Coin_428

SET UP TO FAIL Render22

SET UP TO FAIL Loadin19

SET UP TO FAIL Loadin20

SET UP TO FAIL Loadin17

SET UP TO FAIL Resolv14

SET UP TO FAIL Search14

There are many more error screens and codes .

The above are some of the most common in PCEA .

What I have screen shotted is a small fraction of the errors I have received .

Some of the above are part of the couple hundred , one at a time submittals of false forfeits that occurred during coin games I reported to Member Services . To review .

They did review them and reimbursed my entry fees . Every single one of them . I provided more than enough to check the timeline to verify my claims .

Totalling 2,278,000 coins .

Many of them , they reported to me that . These results were never supposed to happen . That the game was set up to avoid these . And they were working on it .
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