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It's been a while since I expressed some of my objectives for the CC . First of all I like and respect everyone that joins our club . I realize that not everyone knows what a CC is all about . Many have different reasons for joining . I really don't know how many of the other clubs are run . They are all different . What I want to emphasize in our CC is that whatever tier you are . That you feel comfortable here , part of a team of players that come here to find conditions that enable them to improve their game , hone their skills , lower their scores ,lower their averages , move up in tiers . Enjoyably and comfortably with the conditions that challenge them enough to keep that drive without the frustrationsof regular game play . All that is completely possible by either creating those tourneys yourself or by messaging me about it . Or someone else in your tier that has been creating tourneys . Any kind of information that you need to know should be provided here , any kind of appp , calculator , help , tutorial , tournament , statistic , message , opinion , gripe , compliment , etc , etc . Should able to be aqcuired here ( or in our website , as it may be easier there ). With your help , all of this can be done easily . We already have a good start . I am going to be here for a very long time trying to achieve all this . For any of you that think it's a good direction for your CC to go in . Then lets keep on keepin on . Sincerely , Your Co team member PDB1 , Paul ( sitting here on a rare rainy day ) May the SUN always be with you
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05-29-2015 9:26 AM
I'm just saying . Could this forum be any deader ? Forever I have tried to initiate topics of conversation , something to comment on , something that requires responses , something , any input at all . Even at its best it was very minimal . I am done with that .
It would be nice if some of you take a little initiative . There are plenty of issues WGT wide that we could all discuss . Just a quick post or comment . I will leave it up to you all . I am quickly losing my interest in this CC venture . A person can only try so hard with no results before he hangs up his hat .
That is not even to mention everything I put into the site . Best of Replays , Hall of Fame , Recent tourney Winners , scores and tabulations that I tally and keep for you all.s benefit is endless . Information of interest , Jim's Jokes ( which I think is one of the best features of any forum ) I thank him for that regularly . Do you guys ? Probably not . Shame .ETC , etc , etc , etc . . Everything trophies awards accolades all custom made with a lot of thought put into them . Go unnoticed with no mention or thanx ( of course with the exception of a very few ) . WTF ? Do you take all that for granted ? Or you just don't give a crap ?
I may sound mad but I'm not just frustrated . I may sound like I am disrespecting you but I'm not . Just trying to light a fire .
My bet is no one will even read this . Much less respond .
Oh BTW thanx for playin .
05-29-2015 9:40 AM
For those of you that have helped with all of this . I cannot tell you how much that has meant to me . You are what has kept it going . I thank you few that you are whole heartedly . I am not going anywhere yet . I gotta admit I am discouraged and disappointed ., Who knows what lies in the future .
05-29-2015 11:24 AM
A very ominous title to the post. I and am sure others, appreciate all the work and dedication you put in to this great CC. That being said, you are the owner and you make the rules. Remove those who don't give you or the CC the minimal effort you ask for and rightly deserve. Not much to expect a simple thanks once and awhile. Hope you don't say f**k it, but I would understand if you did. May the sun always be with you.
05-29-2015 1:03 PM
Another " not to worry issue " . Stay or go . Everyone has a choice . As an owner I am not concerned at all about invites to my members . They will stay or they will go .
What I think is unfortunate is the limited , minimal amount of info one can see about another CC . It is difficult to make an educated decision of what other CC's have to offer .
I myself know there are CC's out there more to my liking than my own . More communication , interaction , activities , etc . But there is really no way to be sure .
I am about done with mine . Will probably be moving on to join another sometime in the future . Have no idea what is out there . Too bad there isn't MORE public info on various CC's .
Paul posted this in the WGT CC forum. We, as members of this great CC must step up or risk losing the whole thing. Hope that doesn't happen but looks like the ship is taking on water fast. Am I the only one who is concerned?
To be fair the post Rob is referring to is out of another thread about poaching of which i also have different opinions than some of the popular ones . see : Mass Poaching
05-29-2015 1:21 PM
Yes I posted that today . Have been at this for a long time . Have posted pages and pages ( in this forum ) of the type of CC I would like to be involved with . For the most part , completely unresponsive in all areas . IDK what to do . It's not for lack of trying . Maybe I just don't know the right approach . Just not in my cards . But yes I am looking for a lot more in a CC . I do enjoy all of the work that i do . But I feel so alone . rarely is there much raport or bantor , exchange or response about any topics or events or suggestions . It is quite frustrating . Like I said IDK what is next .
05-29-2015 1:29 PM
However I have not given up . And will continue to do my very best here . As always I have no secrets . You will always be kept in the loop if anything is going to change . I do not want this to change . I only want better for us in this CC . But the silence and the inactivity is killing me . It just doesn't feel like enough . So many good players / members so hard to communicate . That is just how I feel right now and I do not mean any disrespect .
05-29-2015 1:40 PM
Rob . You have been a GR8 edition to this CC and you are definitely very involved and we all have and hope to always enjoy and share your sucess .
Thank you for your input always . Paul
I have to leave for work now . Almost late . Lol . OOps
05-29-2015 1:40 PM
This is not a good thing . Things have been slow at work . Hence the 2nd shift . I was just leaving and my boss texted me and said " Not much going on today . You can take the day off if you want " . Well I don't think he was actually giving me a choice . Looks like lay offs next week . Hope to avoid that but IDK . So I am home tonight . Oh well I was looking for a job when I found that one .
05-29-2015 4:24 PM
paul,there is always a job if you want to work.if you work like you run this cc you should not have any trouble getting another job.good luck....harry4364
05-29-2015 5:19 PM
sorry about the work situation and the lack of help on here. paul with the epilepsy i don't always catch the brain cells thrown my way, so if there's anything i can do to help you let me know bubba!! i try and keep the free tourneys up to at least 5-10, and jim is helping a lot on that...i'm not blaming this on my epilepsy but i don't always have even bats in my beflfry, there more like barn swallows.... thanks for all you do... i think i'm gonna grab my laptop, pic one of these 80's bans still touring, and gt back to being a groupire..... heard styx and alice cooper were on your, and a make shift remake of the dead($120 a ticket starting up, and play wgt on the road. only got one life, but i will carry wgt with me until i drop. a game i can no longer play physically, but thanks to this club i have kept playing it, and truely appreciate what you do for it man!!!! TRENT
05-29-2015 5:46 PM
Hey Paul...you are the grease that keepsthe wheels turning in this club......I realy hope you don't give up...there are too many dedicated members who would be lost without you running the show. I have a brother in law (think we all played together( but he works sun up to sun down and might not be able to play every day but I've conveyed to him how fun this club is. If you would make some exceptions to our 3 rules I'm sure I can get him to join us. Just a suggestion......Jim
PS...he's a master and enjoys playing when he gets the chance.....let me know
PSS....if you do decide to leave the club please let me know.......I'll follow you anywhere
05-29-2015 7:04 PM
Thank you Trent Harry and Jim . I am sure everything will be fine . We will find a way . Right ?
Jim . About your Brother in law . Yes he would be welcome here of course . But I am a little confused when you ask to make some exceptions to our 3 rules . They are minimal requests , just to join . Almost too easy . Here they are .
There are only 3 very easy requirements to join this CC :
1) Participate in CC tourneys
2) Communicate with owner just enough to know you are human
3) Register in our website / forum
I don't see anything about those that even the least interested and least available of new recruits ( which really isn't what we are looking for ) should have any trouble with .
That is my point about this whole thing . If those minimal conditions are too much for some one just to join . Then when I start asking for them to keep current in the WGT CC Forum ( the one you are reading this in right now ) . Yes to keep current by clicking on it and reading the topics posted by my self and other CC members , posting a reply , a comment . Asking a question . Making a suggestion . Which I feel is also a minimal part of being in a WGT CC . When I ask for feedback about planning events for CC members all to enjoy . I get 3 responses out of 50 members . Again not a yay or a nay not even fk you . These things help to make a CC thrive . There is much more than just those things .
A CC cannot progress on it's members playing in CC tourney's alone .I know because I read the WGT forums . The CC owner turnover is very high and mostly due to some of the frustrations I am experiencing . One main one I happily do not have to deal with anymore is the lack of CC play . You guys play plenty and that is awesome . But IMHO ( in my humble opinion ) only the beginning of the start to building and growing a strong CC .
The participations and cooperations that I am talking about are still very small and non time consuming . But a few minutes in the forum . A couple responses . A little input can and will make a big difference on our strength . If you don't believe me . Then just keep on not responding and not having input . Keep silent . And when I am gone . Try and get someone else to take over being ignored .
Just today I asked two different members why they didn't keep current in the WGT CC Forum ( the one you are reading now ) . One guy said he didn't have time . The other guy said he has a life . How many of you would feel good about that . Running a CC with those kinds of responses .
I have not mentioned the website . And I am not going to in this conversation . This is only for the topic of the CC and its current state . I would like to say more .I would like to ask more . But I know I better stop for now .
Next I will be posting about how invaluable the website has been in providing a way to keep track of all of our progression as we move up through WGT . There is no way we would know any of the statistics and accomplishments , scores , wins , averages , information , etc . Without its help .
Thank you for listening . Paul
05-29-2015 7:09 PM
I don't even feel like my comments are falling on deaf ears . Because probably the only members that will read what I write are the ones that care . Not the ones I want to reach.