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Owner’s Objectives
It's been a while since I expressed some of my objectives for the CC . First of all I like and respect everyone that joins our club . I realize that not everyone knows what a CC is all about . Many have different reasons for joining . I really don't know how many of the other clubs are run . They are all different . What I want to emphasize in our CC is that whatever tier you are . That you feel comfortable here , part of a team of players that come here to find conditions that enable them to improve their game , hone their skills , lower their scores ,lower their averages , move up in tiers . Enjoyably and comfortably with the conditions that challenge them enough to keep that drive without the frustrationsof regular game play . All that is completely possible by either creating those tourneys yourself or by messaging me about it . Or someone else in your tier that has been creating tourneys . Any kind of information that you need to know should be provided here , any kind of appp , calculator , help , tutorial , tournament , statistic , message , opinion , gripe , compliment , etc , etc . Should able to be aqcuired here ( or in our website , as it may be easier there ). With your help , all of this can be done easily . We already have a good start . I am going to be here for a very long time trying to achieve all this . For any of you that think it's a good direction for your CC to go in . Then lets keep on keepin on . Sincerely , Your Co team member PDB1 , Paul ( sitting here on a rare rainy day ) May the SUN always be with you
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Re: Where are the Flags ?By Bertasion in Valley of the Sun Casual Club The other day upon the heather fair I hit a flagstick that was not there. I saw it's shadow and heard the clank but where it stood was just a blank. It was not there again today. I wonder when it will come back and stay. Brian
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HI . COULD YOU DO SOMETHING FOR ME PLEASE ?
Hello . How are you this fine day ? I need you to do something for me please . This is very important .
When I started this CC I had some very specific things in mind . Reasonable goals . Goals that I am still striving for .
I knew I had to be very careful to not have any rules or try to make members do anything or give them ultimatums . WGT members are very sensitive .
After some trial and error I came up with 3 conditions required to join the CC . I didn't want to push my luck because I felt that there were many more things that were included with being in a WGT CC
These are the 3
A) Play in CC tourneys
B) Keep in touch with the owner ( me ) . Every once in a while
C) Register in our website / forum that I spent a gr8 deal of time building as an extra bonus to our members . There are other reasons to register . But that reason alone is enough to require one to register .
That is / was all that I required . Very easy stuff . Nope wasn't even easy to get them to do that .
Now for the other things I feel are necessary to be in and make a CC complete and thrive . Over time I thought if I just suggest these things everyone will eventually see how well they work and happily and voluntarily come on board with them .
One is that CC members friend each other and play rounds together .
Another is to keep current in the CC forum to know what is going on . There are announcements made , questions asked , dates posted ,etc.
Another is to contribute to the CC forum . By way of posting a response , asking a question , making a comment , a complaint , a joke etc.
Another is Challenging the Magic Star . This is an in CC only stroke play event .
Another is Challenging the King . This is an in CC match play event .
These two very fun events are supposed to be active in the forum and CC at all times . Should be changing hands throughout the CC all the time .
Another is that there are some occasions that I may have a question for every CC member that I need an answer from every CC member . This does not happen very often . But when it does I don't think it is too much to ask to expect a reply .
That is the problem . There are only a few very stand up members that do these things . They have jobs and families and lives as does everyone else in this CC . Yet they happily do those things voluntarily .
Most do not . All of my suggesting and hinting and waiting and being nice . Has not worked at all . Since that makes it all to obvious that those members aren't on board with where I want to go with the CC . Unfortunately I am going to remove them . But not before I spend a couple few weeks trying to contact them and confirming that that is what they want me to do . Because I don't want to do it . I don't understand what is so hard about spending 5 or 10 minutes contributing in the forum . A few minute friending fellow CC members . Playing rounds with other CC members . That is all that I am saying needs to happen in our CC .
I don't think you realize what all these handful of dedicated members have done to provide this cool tournament environment for them that has allowed you to be way better than if you were anywhere else . If your not going to give me the time of day or any respect . One would think you could show your appreciation to the others that have stepped for you and made you more awesome .
To me this is a no brainer . It just makes so much sense to me . But obviously not to many of you . So I will be contacting you personally to say good bye and wish you the best of luck . And that you and the CC will be losing all of your hard earned CC points .
Hopefully this will not have to happen . But it will and it will be the third time I removed 40 plus members , and 10 to 20 many times .
There is a post in the forum asking for a response . It has been 60 hours since I posted it and have received 19 reply's . Not too good .
if you want this to have a different outcome . Like a happy ending . Please don't ask me what you need to do . I think I described it well enough . I like evry one of you and respect you very much . But if you are not a good fit for this CC than so be it . Ultimately it is completely up to you .
Thank you very much for listening . I am not making any lists , not naming any names . Everyone will receive this . You already know if you are all good or not . If I see that you responded to the message , If I see you in the forum making a post if we are messaging each other . Playing a match now and then i guess we are all good .
Paul
May you always be with the SUN
When I started this CC I had some very specific things in mind . Reasonable goals . Goals that I am still striving for .
I knew I had to be very careful to not have any rules or try to make members do anything or give them ultimatums . WGT members are very sensitive .
After some trial and error I came up with 3 conditions required to join the CC . I didn't want to push my luck because I felt that there were many more things that were included with being in a WGT CC
These are the 3
A) Play in CC tourneys
B) Keep in touch with the owner ( me ) . Every once in a while
C) Register in our website / forum that I spent a gr8 deal of time building as an extra bonus to our members . There are other reasons to register . But that reason alone is enough to require one to register .
That is / was all that I required . Very easy stuff . Nope wasn't even easy to get them to do that .
Now for the other things I feel are necessary to be in and make a CC complete and thrive . Over time I thought if I just suggest these things everyone will eventually see how well they work and happily and voluntarily come on board with them .
One is that CC members friend each other and play rounds together .
Another is to keep current in the CC forum to know what is going on . There are announcements made , questions asked , dates posted ,etc.
Another is to contribute to the CC forum . By way of posting a response , asking a question , making a comment , a complaint , a joke etc.
Another is Challenging the Magic Star . This is an in CC only stroke play event .
Another is Challenging the King . This is an in CC match play event .
These two very fun events are supposed to be active in the forum and CC at all times . Should be changing hands throughout the CC all the time .
Another is that there are some occasions that I may have a question for every CC member that I need an answer from every CC member . This does not happen very often . But when it does I don't think it is too much to ask to expect a reply .
That is the problem . There are only a few very stand up members that do these things . They have jobs and families and lives as does everyone else in this CC . Yet they happily do those things voluntarily .
Most do not . All of my suggesting and hinting and waiting and being nice . Has not worked at all . Since that makes it all to obvious that those members aren't on board with where I want to go with the CC . Unfortunately I am going to remove them . But not before I spend a couple few weeks trying to contact them and confirming that that is what they want me to do . Because I don't want to do it . I don't understand what is so hard about spending 5 or 10 minutes contributing in the forum . A few minute friending fellow CC members . Playing rounds with other CC members . That is all that I am saying needs to happen in our CC .
I don't think you realize what all these handful of dedicated members have done to provide this cool tournament environment for them that has allowed you to be way better than if you were anywhere else . If your not going to give me the time of day or any respect . One would think you could show your appreciation to the others that have stepped for you and made you more awesome .
To me this is a no brainer . It just makes so much sense to me . But obviously not to many of you . So I will be contacting you personally to say good bye and wish you the best of luck . And that you and the CC will be losing all of your hard earned CC points .
Hopefully this will not have to happen . But it will and it will be the third time I removed 40 plus members , and 10 to 20 many times .
There is a post in the forum asking for a response . It has been 60 hours since I posted it and have received 19 reply's . Not too good .
if you want this to have a different outcome . Like a happy ending . Please don't ask me what you need to do . I think I described it well enough . I like evry one of you and respect you very much . But if you are not a good fit for this CC than so be it . Ultimately it is completely up to you .
Thank you very much for listening . I am not making any lists , not naming any names . Everyone will receive this . You already know if you are all good or not . If I see that you responded to the message , If I see you in the forum making a post if we are messaging each other . Playing a match now and then i guess we are all good .
Paul
May you always be with the SUN
Re: HI . COULD YOU DO SOMETHING FOR ME PLEASE ?
just writing ya back bubba!!!! how would you like missing aputt and costing you a million???? what a finish man!!! I kinda like chabers bay on here. it's a hard course, but I like the change. paul, one thing I need to do is play for the star, which haven't haven't got to ... my connection to wgt has been horrible for a week. I have tried all the browsers, no luck... frustrating.... see ya brother man!! trent
Re: HI . COULD YOU DO SOMETHING FOR ME PLEASE ?
That was some open . I was playing the back 9 yesterday and i was in the same shots as on tv . and that train too . but that putt was heartbreaking . Go for the star man ,
Paul
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Re: HI . COULD YOU DO SOMETHING FOR ME PLEASE ?
Ugh . This is a follow up to the letter . I guess I needed to be more specific . The WGT CC forum
http://www.wgt.com/clubs/valley_of_the_sun_casual_club/forum/default.aspx this one
is what I am so concerned about . ONLY .
I hope we are clear now . You now know and because it is the WGT CC forum for our CC is why I need more participation there . It's part of the WGT deal .
The only time I mention the website is in condition " C " . The forumotion website is not connected or related to WGT whatsoever and has no bearing on the future of our WGT CC .
I stopped thinking you would use the website 6 months ago . Only require that one registers there . That is all .
http://www.wgt.com/clubs/valley_of_the_sun_casual_club/forum/default.aspx this one
is what I am so concerned about . ONLY .
I hope we are clear now . You now know and because it is the WGT CC forum for our CC is why I need more participation there . It's part of the WGT deal .
The only time I mention the website is in condition " C " . The forumotion website is not connected or related to WGT whatsoever and has no bearing on the future of our WGT CC .
I stopped thinking you would use the website 6 months ago . Only require that one registers there . That is all .
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