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If you wanted to look at the Magic Star . You will see that it is in the forum F6 . If you click F6 you wiil see just those 12 forums . Then you can look in each one at all the topics in them .


F1 ALL MEMBERS BRIEFLY INTRODUCE YOURSELF
2015 NEW ANNOUNCEMENTS

F2 Valley of the Sun CC SITE AND FORUM GUILDELINES
VOTSCC TOURNAMENT MAKING GUIDE
VOTSCC OUR WGT CC BASIC PROTOCOL

F3 Valley of the Sun CC HALL OF FAME REPLAY BLOOPERS
Valley of the Sun CC BEST OF REPLAYS

F4 WORLD CLOCK

F5 RECENT TOURNEY WINNERS
VOTSCC "KICK ASS" 100,000 POINT CLUB MEMBERS

F6 FORUM FOR PAGE 3 & SAT & SUN BRACKETS & TOURNEY INFO HERE
FLASH MOB & ECGA POKER & MY LEAGUE POOL HALL PROS
PERFECT GOLF
LEXMARK 2500 CREDIT TOURNEY
CLASH RULES AND RESULTS
BLITZ OFFICIAL RULES
DAILY BLITZ SCORES ONLY
THE MAGIC STAR
CHALLENGING THE KING
VOTSCC INTERPLAY CC VS CC MATCHES
ACE'S " Best of the Alternate Shot Championship "
JUNE28 RATTLESNAKE ALT SHOT

F7 VALLEY OF THE FUN
CRAZY WGT SHIT
DON"T CHOKE IT "JOKE IT "

F8 FORUM OF HOW TO'S
TIPS FROM THE DOCTOR OF TECHNOLOGY AZDEWARS
WGT GAME TIPS & TRICKS

F9 Current Events ,,Announcemets , Bulletin Board Part 1
AZ "HOT SHOTS" REMEMBERED
HIGH FIVES TO THE SKIES
RANDOM SELFLESS ACTS OF KINDNESS

F10 VOTSCC CC CLUBHOUSE
CC CART GIRL
TOURNEY TALK
GET YOUR CC TOURNEY ON

F11 CHAT ? ANYONE HERE TO CHAT WITH ?

F12 ANYTHING ELSE ?
DAVID LANES KICK ASS GALLERY OF ART
FORUM OF OLD WGT FORUM POST'S (archives)
HEY JOE
OFF THE WALL , THX FOR A WALL OF A GOOD TIME
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FORUM UPDATE
THIS FORUM IS FOR YOU ALL . PLEASE FEEL LIKE IT IS YOURS . READ THE FORUMS. POST COMMENTS . ASK QUESTIONS . IF YOU HAVE A COMPLAINT POST IT . MAKE SUGGESTIONS . READ SOME TUTORIALS . READ SOME GOLF TIPS . CHECK RECENT TOURNEY WINNERS . BROWSE OUR OLD FORUM ARCHIVES . LOG IN TO THE CHAT AND MESSAGE SOMEONE TO MEET YOU THERE AND ARRANGE A MATCH . LOG IN TO THE CHAT TO SEE IF SOMEONE IS THERE JUST TO SAY HI . MESSAGE ME IF YOU WANT TO GET ON THE DAILY BLITZ .
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Bilko’s Putting Calc
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Owner’s Objectives

It's been a while since I expressed some of my objectives for the CC . First of all I like and respect everyone that joins our club . I realize that not everyone knows what a CC is all about . Many have different reasons for joining . I really don't know how many of the other clubs are run . They are all different . What I want to emphasize in our CC is that whatever tier you are . That you feel comfortable here , part of a team of players that come here to find conditions that enable them to improve their game , hone their skills , lower their scores ,lower their averages , move up in tiers . Enjoyably and comfortably with the conditions that challenge them enough to keep that drive without the frustrationsof regular game play . All that is completely possible by either creating those tourneys yourself or by messaging me about it . Or someone else in your tier that has been creating tourneys . Any kind of information that you need to know should be provided here , any kind of appp , calculator , help , tutorial , tournament , statistic , message , opinion , gripe , compliment , etc , etc . Should able to be aqcuired here ( or in our website , as it may be easier there ). With your help , all of this can be done easily . We already have a good start . I am going to be here for a very long time trying to achieve all this . For any of you that think it's a good direction for your CC to go in . Then lets keep on keepin on . Sincerely , Your Co team member PDB1 , Paul ( sitting here on a rare rainy day ) May the SUN always be with you
POST OF THE WEEK

Re: Where are the Flags ?By Bertasion in Valley of the Sun Casual Club The other day upon the heather fair I hit a flagstick that was not there. I saw it's shadow and heard the clank but where it stood was just a blank. It was not there again today. I wonder when it will come back and stay. Brian
BLITZ LIST
HERE IS THE LIST OF BLITZ COURSES IN THE ORDER THEY ARE PLAYED EVERY WEEK OF EVERY SEASON .

DAILY BLITZ WEEKLY SCHEDULE



WEEK 1

BEST OF BANDON PAR 3
PEBBLE BEACH
THE OLYMPIC CLUB
VAHALLA
MERION


WEEK 2

PINEHURST NO.2
HARBOUR TOWN
KIAWAH ISLAND
ROYAL ST. GEORGE
CONGRESSIONAL


WEEK 3

ERIN HILLS
ST. ANDREWS
BALI HAI
CELTIC MANOR
BETHPAGE BLACK


WEEK 4

PINEHURST NO. 8
WOLF CREEK
CHALLANGE AT MANELE
EXPERIENCE AT KOELE
HILVERSUMSCHE


WEEK 5

EDGEWOOD TAHOE
BEST OF WATER SHOTS
BEST OF FAMOUS SHOTS
BEST OF PUTTING
CHAMBERS BAY

TIER & AVERAGE REQUIREMENTS
BASIC LEVEL AND AVERAGE REQUIREMENTS , AND SATURATION

You need to play at least 5 ranked rounds as hack to saturate & be eligible for Amateur.
When your average score is equal or smaller than 100 you go from Hack to Amateur.

You need to play at least 10 ranked rounds as amateur to saturate & be eligible for Pro.
When your average score is equal or smaller than 80 you go from Amateur to Pro..

You need to play at least 20 ranked rounds as Pro to saturate & be eligible for Tour Pro.
When your average score is equal or smaller than 72 you go from pro to Tour Pro.

You need to play at least 25 ranked rounds as Tour pro to saturate & be eligible for Master.
When your average score is equal or smaller than 67 you go from Tour Pro to Master.

You need to play at least 40 ranked rounds as Master to saturate & be eligible for Tour Master.
When your average score is equal or smaller than 63 you go from Master to Tour Master.

You need to play at least 50 ranked rounds as Tour Master to saturate & be eligible for Legend.
When your average score is equal or smaller than 61 you go from Tour Master to Legend.

You need to play at least 500 ranked rounds as Legend to to saturate & be eligible for Tour Legend.
When your average score is equal or smaller than 60 you go from Legend to Tour Legend.

You need to play at least 200 ranked rounds as Tour Legend to to saturate & be eligible for Champion .
When your average score is equal or smaller than 59 you go from Tour Legend to Champion .

You need to play another 200 ranked rounds as a Champion to saturate .

You need to jump through 10,000 hoops before you receive an exclusive personal invitation before reaching Tour Champion.

May the SUN always be with you

Current date/time is Sat 10 Apr 2021, 23:10

Search found 5 matches for 4

NOT TRYING TO FIND ALL OF THEM ( Is this WGT's oldest active player?)

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    pdb1
    20,790 Posts
    Thu, Oct 1 2020 3:18 PM

    Topics tagged under 4 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club Icon-quote SaskGopher:
    Thank you sir. 

    You're quite welcome sir . Well deserved .



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    DaTurk
    15 Posts
    Tue, Oct 13 2020 8:59 AM

    I like it!



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    pdb1
    20,790 Posts
    Tue, Oct 13 2020 2:51 PM

    Topics tagged under 4 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club Icon-quote DaTurk:
    I like it!

      And I like this. Lol . Having a little fun are you ?
    October 13, 2020

    October 10, 2020

    • DaTurk made an eagle on hole #3 on PEBBLE BEACH GOLF LINKS.
    • DaTurk made an eagle on hole #2 on PEBBLE BEACH GOLF LINKS.
    • DaTurk made an eagle on hole #1 on PEBBLE BEACH GOLF LINKS.
    • DaTurk made an eagle on hole #4 on PEBBLE BEACH GOLF LINKS.
    • DaTurk made an ea
    • le on hole #2 on PEBBLE BEACH GOLF LINKS.

    October 09, 2020

    • DaTurk made an eagle on hole #4 on PEBBLE BEACH GOLF LINKS.
    • DaTurk made an eagle on hole #3 on PEBBLE BEACH GOLF LINKS.
    • DaTurk made an eagle on hole #2 on PEBBLE BEACH GOLF LINKS.
    • DaTurk made an eagle on hole #1 on PEBBLE BEACH GOLF LINKS.

    •   Very cool . Very impressive .

    11/16/2020 7:22 P.M.
      In response to Henry and DFMG .

    • ___________________
    • If what people are saying is true and all of my posts have been deleted . Then no one will see this edit .

    Topics tagged under 4 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club Icon-quote DuFussMcGoo:
    You have 16 players that PREDATE the opening! Wow!


    • Of the active players
    • tigerwee
    • and
    • MikeNJ
    • Are the only 2 active players ( per my criteria ) . That haven't received trophy's yet .
    • But in gathering the almost 500 active players . I viewed nearly 5000 profiles . I saw over 3000 players with pre 2010 start dates . Easily 1000 from 2007 . All but the ones I list plus tigerwee and MikeNJ are inactive .
    • Over 100 " TRAILBLAZERS " have 2007 start dates




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    phipster
    1,759 Posts
    Mon, Oct 19 2020 3:03 PM

    Another couple of players who have been on WGT a long time pdb1...
    https://www.wgt.com/players/vpc1sgt/default.aspx
    https://www.wgt.com/players/tholomew/default.aspx



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    HenryKawa
    1,301 Posts
    Mon, Nov 16 2020 2:35 PM

    I did some research on this a few years ago.  I didn't update the active vs. non-active for the complete list.  I limited my search on anyone who signed up before April 1, 2008.  I just found that after that date, there were HUNDREDS of sign-ups.  Before April 1, 2008, I could only find 44.   Here they are.    If I missed anyone, let me know.  Thanks.
    First WGT Members
    1Cuber May 24, 2007Left 2017
    2bonz May 2007Still Active
    3Srellim234 June 9, 2007Pops in and out
    4Thunderbird June 2007Still Active
    5Jdoggbowler June 2007left years ago
    6LBCGolf June 2007Left 2009
    7Tigerwee June 2007Still Active
    8Fuzzygazz June 2007Still Active
    9Theo June 2007Left 2015
    10Irishking1916 June 2007Still Active
    11Putter2eyes June 2007Still Active?
    122DWN June 2007Still Active
    13Jayew Aug 2007
    13dschom5   Sept 2007
    14Spozz1 Oct 2007
    15MikenJ Nov 2007
    16Pauls Dec 2007Still Active
    17Vabighack Jan 22, 2008Still Active
    18Kennyperry Jan 18, 2008Still Active
    19Tibbets Jan 2008
    20Sooner7 Jan 2008
    21Badaboom Jan 2008
    22Blackwood Jan 2008
    23Scottswgt Jan 2008
    24Vardon Jan 2008
    25Mike_Misza Jan 2008
    26Marioh Jan 2008
    27BobLarsen Jan 2008
    28Yuconn Jan 2008
    29Kmanfromga Jan 2008
    30Monzard Jan 2008
    31Xdrox Jan 2008
    32Tonyturbo78 Jan 2008
    33Colflanders Jan 2008
    34Hawkeye9 Jan 2008
    35Iowankid Jan 2008
    36Diego902 Jan 2008
    37Zippy-pivot Jan 2008
    38Claremoreblue Jan 2008
    39Bulfrog2004 Jan 2008
    40Portsd Feb 2008
    41TooLinit Feb 2008
    42Daturk March 2008
    43Fatdan March 2008
    44Caddie74 March 2008




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    Kenher01
    996 Posts
    Mon, Nov 16 2020 2:50 PM

    Missed one, 
                        Travis June 2007
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    giraldin
    3,458 Posts
    Mon, Nov 16 2020 3:01 PM

    TECHI13



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    DuFussMcGoo
    2,488 Posts
    Mon, Nov 16 2020 3:13 PM

    Back in 2007, WGT was just a demo site! Didn't really have official opening until October 2008.
    You have 16 players that PREDATE the opening! Wow!
    I see Tigerwee is still active but I can't find Bonzz as active.
    SUPER DISCOVERY JOB!



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    HenryKawa
    1,301 Posts
    Mon, Nov 16 2020 5:26 PM

    Topics tagged under 4 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club Icon-quote Kenher01:
    Missed one, 
                        Travis June 2007
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    Yes, I did miss Thunderbird.  And he is still very much active.  I added him to the list above and to my official Spreadsheet.  Thank you for that input.
    As for Travis, yes there was a Travis from June 2007 but I'm not sure he even played a single game.  There is no evidence that he did anything other than signing up.  But I will ad him to the list.  Thank you.



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    Cotton949
    376 Posts
    Tue, Nov 17 2020 7:11 AM

    Amazing work!
by Paul
on Thu 19 Nov 2020, 17:41
 
Search in: NOT TRYING TO FIND WGT's OLDEST ACTIVE PLAYER
Topic: NOT TRYING TO FIND ALL OF THEM ( Is this WGT's oldest active player?)
Replies: 19
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CLICK HERE TO ADD YOUR INTRODUCTION TO THE OTHERS

What’s up everyone!

First off thanks for the acceptance as I am very new to the game. Been a member for about 3 weeks now and still grinding and learning.

The name is Patrick, I’m a Marine Veteran from NC and I’m a full time Caddie at Pinehurst. Yes I Caddie all 9 course, well 8 while they remodel #4. Absolutely love it. I play a lot in real life as well, I am a 6 handicap so if anyone’s in the NC region I’d love to link up and get a round in.

I am engaged and have one son who is 4 years old. We play golf a lot together but right now gymnastics runs his life haha. Good for his balance right? Haha.

Hope to learn a lot from the members and club, this games tough. Courses play a lot harder than they do in real life haha.

Semper Fi!
by TinCup2410
on Tue 08 May 2018, 15:32
 
Search in: F0 CLICK HERE TO ADD YOUR INTRODUCTION TO THE OTHERS (archives)
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WGT National Enquirer - Top 10 Toy List Fri, Dec 13 2013 4:02 PM

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With the biggest shopping day of the year just around the corner, the WGT National Enquirer staff has scoured the local toy stores to make it easier to shop for your WGT addicted loved ones. After days and weeks of hair pulling and heart wrenching decision making, here are the top 10 WGT-related toys to gift.

 

#10 Mr. Potato Head - WGT Edition


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Our own loveable WGTIcon comes to life as Mr. Potato Head in this special WGT edition of a classic for all ages!!

#9 Red Rider BolloxinBruges BB Gun


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One of the all-time greatest young boy's Christmas gifts is a Red Ryder BB gun! The new BolloxinBruges Special edition will teach your youngster to be a straight shooter just like Bollie!

#8 Dr. Jedi's Medical Kit


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The perfect role model for your children, Dr. Jedi has helped thousands with their problems on wgt.com.  What better way to teach your kids how to give a shot?

#7 Tickle Me Esssy


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This WGT Special Edition features lots of lols lol,  Tickle his ribs and he'll say the most amazing things only he can understand!  lol 

#6 MrWGT's Monopoly


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Be an entrepreneur like MrWGT! Play the new (coming soon) Monopoly Challenge on wgt.com using your credits not Monopoly money. Of course, WGT gets a 20% rake on all credit transactions.

#5 YANCYCAN'S WHAC-A-MOLE!


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Bop them moles!! Help our good friend and fellow WGTer Yancy clear those pesky moles out of his Par 2 & 1/2 golf course with this WGT Special Edition Whac-A-Mole game!

#4 LizzieRossetti's Silly Putting Ball


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Great stocking stuffers!!  If you've seen Lizzie putt you know how hysterical it can be (it isn't her fault)!  Now you can "Putt Like Lizzie" with this goofy ball made from the amazing world renown substance known to everyone as Silly Putty. 

#3 Gift Certificates to WGT's New Driving Range


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Gift certificates for a bucket of balls at the new WGT Driving range (coming soon in December, 2018!) are a welcome gift for any WGTer! Watch them practice hitting balls into Lake Tibbets and hear the squeals of laughter that it wasn't their own Callaway. (Add the YankeeJim blindfold from the WGT pro shop and they can learn how to hit by feel!)

#2 Plush Toy renniw52


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We've all played with Ren on wgt.com, now we can play with him at home!  This 8" tall squirrel plush toy is handcrafted by artisans and has amazing attention to detail.  Nuts are included.

And the Number One WGT National Enquirer recommended gift is!!

#1 WGT Transformers - Legend to Master


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Our most popular game.  Use your Legend skills from the Master tees in WGT.com challenge and ready go competitions and amass millions in credits.  Up to 10 accounts are available.  Also available in Legend to Pro and Legend to Tour Pro.

Happy shopping everyone!

by Paul
on Fri 30 Sep 2016, 14:09
 
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CLICK HERE AND CLICK THE LAST PAGE . TO POST YOUR BLITZ SCORES

Week #4 + Updated Season Standings


Beren won the week and Rob won the Mystery Score. Well done guys :D

Both win 50 Cr. their bank!

I will be posting everyone's bank balance at the end of every season, but feel free to PM me if you need to know your balance.

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by TinysTeeShot
on Sun 12 Jun 2016, 17:37
 
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JC SNEED SAYS PUTTING BY NUMBERS UPDATE

Updates in bold below

I 've read a lot of these tutorials and watched some of the videos attached to them and I have to shake my head and wonder how these people make putts with any consistency.

They miss the ding (and badly) most of the time.

  Their methods of aiming are as much witchcraft as anything else (aim from the tip of your avatar's nose - align to the heel on your left foot - switch to chipping mode and aim using the chipping grid, although the chipping grid doesn't tell you anything more than the putting grid).

They fail to tell you how to adjust ball/swing speed.

They fail to tell you how to accurately account for the differing speeds of breaks or how elevation changes affect speed.


They fail to accurately describe how they arrived at their magical method.


Most of the videos show them dropping 30 footers that result more from luck than any method (if you can find any meJust like putting in real life, putting is this game is not a hard thing if you follow a set routine using the same method everytime and making the tiny adjustments the daily conditions of the course dictate you make. For instance, some days the results for the formula for putting speed presented below needs to be adjusted slightly, JUST SLIGHTLY, by adding to or subtracting one foot or less from it to nail the right speed. Take a couple of practice holes and figure out whether you need to add a foot or take away a half-foot. But trusting in the method is the key.


The Method:

   1. Calculate the speed
   2. Adjust that calculation based on daily conditions (add or take away).
   3A. Read the break.
   3B. Adjust the aiming point based on the distance to the hole and speed of the break determined by the dots moving horizontally on the Putting Grid, not the Chipping Grid. If you need to use the Chipping Grid to read multiple breaks because you're so far away from the hole to read the Putting Grid accurately, then you should chip the ball instead of putting it.

    4. Make your swing and hit the ding.
    


If you have done the 4 steps above each and every time you putt, you'll be amazed how accurate your putting will improve. There is no Magic to it. Only numbers. Just have faith in the numbers presented to you by the game (but don't completely trust them - See #4 below "Catching the Game Messing With You"), make the necessary adjustments to them using the formulae provided below and watch your average drop

  Now, go ahead a take your time and read the details of this method below and put them into practice. They will only help you.

1. Make your own Putter Pal and use it to set up your swing stren

If you aren't a Country Club member, or if you are a member of a Country Club that hasn't earned a Putter/Swing Pal, or you are too cheap to waste credits buying a Putter/Swing Pal and would rather spend your credits on those sweet, accurate MAX Slow Meter Balls (600 credits per sleeve), then take out a ruler and measure the length of the swing meter on your monitor when you have the putter chosen as your club. The swing meter varies its location on your monitor for clubs other than the putter, but not by much. Still, you want to set up your own "putter pal" calibrated to the putter rather than calibrated to the other clubs. You can always offset your swing strength the slight difference needed for the other clubs once you've used your new homemade putter pal a little bit and see the difference between where 80% is for, say, your driver, and 80% for your putter is on your monitor. You'll see what I mean after you've followed these instructions. If your monitor doesn't show any difference in location or length between the swing meter for the putter and the swing meter for the other clubs, Bully for you!)

Once you know the exact length of your putter swing meter, draw your own swing meter on a piece of paper. Using your ruler, set a mark at the middle of your new meter and label below it "50%". Now, divide each half of the meter in half again, set a mark at each and label these (25% and 75%). Keep splitting these sections of your meter in half and marking them accordingly until you have a meter that will be helpful to you when setting your swing speeds. If you can do the math and choose to make your meter like mine, set up 5% and 10% markings from 0 thru 100%. (It's more accurate using a 5% and 10% meter). After you have your new meter drawn and labeled, carefully cut it out and place it on your monitor just below the actual putter swing meter and tape it into place using cellophane tape. You now have a pretty accurate putter pal and it didn't cost you any credits and it will never expire. Smile

  2. Calculating the Required Putting Speed: NO CHANGES TO THESE NUMBRS IN THIS UPDATE KEEP USING THIS FORMULA

This Putting Speed calculation was provided by a player named Lornar long ago, so I take no credit for it. Lornar, whoever and wherever you, God bless you, my son/daughter. But it is still accurate.

To calculate the speed (amount of power you need to set on your swing meter) of a putt use the following formula:

Putting Speed = Distance to Hole + (Distance to Hole * Green Speed Factor) + or – Elevation Change


  Distance to Hole is in feet.  Elevation Change is in inches. (So watch out for those elevation changes that show up in feet on the greens! Convert them into inches before calculating.)

Green Speed Factors are:
 
   +0.1 for Slow, 
   0 for Standard, 
   0.1 for Fast, 
-  0.15 for Very Fast, 
   0.2 for Tournament and 
-   0.3 for Championship.


So for a putt 14 feet from the hole on a Tournament speed green with an elevation change of up 2 inches, the putting speed needs to be:



14 + ((14*(-.2) + 2) =  13.2.

Therefore, using a putting meter for 25 feet you need to use a little bit more than 50% power on your swing meter to putt for a 13.2 foot distance. (The more divisions you can mark on your homemade putter pal, the better your accuracy will be in setting swing speed. And not just for your putter, but for all your clubs.)

This works well for me on greens of all speeds.  I usually add an extra 1/2 foot to a one foot for short putts to avoid the "never up, never in" issue.

Also, I take about 5% to 10% off the calculated speed on tournament/championship greens for putts over 25 feet. These tend to keep rolling beyond the hole if you strictly follow the above formula. In those cases, the formula is just a starting point, then subtract the 5 to 10% off the putt the farther away you are. A little practice will give the feel for it that you nee

I have this formula calculated on an Excel spreadsheet for each green type, from 1 foot up to 400 feet, that I leave running in the background so I can calculate the speed (swing meter setting) quickly for each putt. All I have to do is enter the elevation change into the required distance.


3. Reading the Breaks: HEART OF THE UPDATE.


The dots on the grid give it away.



To make it clearer for everyone, I've revised my description below on how to read the breaks.


For each p

Reverse the view to behind the hole looking back at your player avatar. Notice where the closest to the hole dot on the closest to the hole horizontal grid line begins moving. It's always at the center point of the grid closest (left or right) to the hole on the horizontal gridline running through the hole,  right? This dot location is equal to 10 feet of putting length for average speed breaks. Or, you could also say the center point between the first vertical gridline and the hole running along the horizontal gridline closest to the hole or through the hole is equal to 10 feet of putting length for average speed breaks. The first VERTICAL grid line away from the hole equals 15 feet putting length for average speed breaks. So, the center of the next grid over is equal to 20 feet of putting length for average speed breaks. And, the center of the next grid over is equal to 30 feet of putting length for average speed breaks. Etc... 


If you have a 22 foot putt with average speed break, you would move your aiming point on the horizontal gridline running through the hole (or on an imaginary horizontal gridline running through the hole, if there isn't a horizontal gridline running through the hole) to the middle of the second grid away from the hole (20 feet), then move it a little bit further away from the hole (22 feet). Since the center of the grid is 20 feet, then the next VERTICAL grid line away from the hole equals 25 feet, so the distance for a 22 foot putt would be just less than halfway between the 20 foot spot and the second VERTICAL grid line (=25 feet putting of length for average speed breaks) away from the hole.


For a 33 foot putt with average speed break, go the third grid away from the hole aim a little closer to the third VERTICAL grid line (=35 feet of putting length for average speed breaks) away from the

Knowing this, now you simply move your aiming triangle on the same horizontal plane as the hole (on an imaginary HORIZONTAL grid line that runs through the center of the hole, if there isn't a horizontal gridline running through the hole) to the number of feet your putt needs to travel to go in (the putting length the game says, not the adjusted putting speed you calculated using the putting speed formula detailed above).


  Some breaks are slower and some are faster. A little trial and error and practice will fix this. Some slower breaks are only 1/2 the speed of average speed breaks, so you cut your putting length in half (the putting length the game says, not the adjusted length you calculated using the above putting speed formula) and use it as the target to aim at. So, using the first example above, if you have a 22 foot putt with 1/2 the average speed break, you would move your aiming point to the middle of the first grid away from the hole (10 feet), the move it a little bit further away from the hole (11 feet). Then putt using the speed you calculated using the putting speed formula above. Sometime it's only 1/4 the average speed break, so you would aim 5 to 6 feet away for that 22 foot putt. Get it?

For faster breaks, guess what? Yeah, you double the distance and move your aiming point to that amount.


Or sometimes it's a fraction:


For some fast breaks instead of doubling the distance, sometimes it's 1.5 or 1.25 or 1.75 times the distance, even triple or quadruple in rare cases.

You have to watch the speed of the dots and get a feel for what average speed looks like, what double speed looks like, what 1/2 speed looks like, etc...



Does this work 100% of the time? I honestly don't know. It hasn't failed me yet. You will be amazed how accurate it really is, though. it works well enough to improve your putting game to get you to start getting a feel for putting, drop some lllloooooonnnggg rainbows, and start cutting back on the dreaded 3 putt. For the 100 plus foot snakes, you're on your own.


4. Catching the Game Messing With You:


Sometimes, the game will try to mess with you by not accurately telling you the exact distance and elevation change. To avoid this, always reverse the view to behind the hole looking at your player avatar, and move the aiming triangle in a circle around the hole about one foot away from the hole. You will notice, more often than not, what the game said was a 12 ft. putt with -2 inch elevation change was actually a 12.8 ft putt with -2.9 inch elevation change. That slight difference is enough to throw your putt off a 1/2 foot left or right or leave you short by inches. So ALWAYS move that aiming triangle around the hole to make sure the game isn't messing with you.


Also, if you end up on the fringe 8 feet from the hole, the game automatically sets your putter to the 100 foot putter meter. So ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS make sure you have the correct length putter meter you will need to be successful. This is also true for putts that are in the transition lengths between meters. e.g. game says 28 foot putt, but calculated to the putting speed formula offered above it is only a 19.5 foot putting speed. The game will automatically set your putter to the 50 foot putter meter, so be careful and ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS check that club meter length to ensure you have the right distance meter. Otherwise your putts will rocket off into the bunkers or worse because the % for 19.5 feet on a 25 foot putter meter is 39 feet on the 50 foot putter meter. And finally, add one foot to your calculated putting speed to clear the fringe.


Like anything else, practice make


So, that's all I've got for now. I hope this helps you. I know it's made a big difference for myself.


Keep it in the short stuff!
by Paul
on Wed 24 Jun 2015, 09:44
 
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Topic: JC SNEED SAYS PUTTING BY NUMBERS UPDATE
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