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MORE GR8 CLASSICS FROM ANDYSON & MORE

FROM THE WGT THREAD  The most famous WGTers of all time


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CEverett12
14,177 Posts
Sat, Jan 18 2020 5:38 PM


  • ANDYSON . I never knew him or had the pleasure of playing a round with him . His WGT Enquirer was the best .  He lives on in the WGT community and if he is looking down on us he would be very proud . R.I.P. Andyson    Your legacy lives on brother .





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    CEverett12
    14,177 Posts
    Sat, Jan 18 2020 5:39 PM

    Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 1QR3uiT





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    CEverett12
    14,177 Posts
    Sat, Jan 18 2020 5:48 PM

    # 2 has to go to Yancy ,   He is a WGT Icon as well .





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    CEverett12
    14,177 Posts
    Sat, Jan 18 2020 5:48 PM









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    twinponds169
    2,916 Posts
    Sat, Jan 18 2020 9:28 PM

    #1 is a given.
    After that, I would not want to rank any of the many other fine folks that have graced this game above or behind each other. .Lots of great peeps have graced this game over the years. Mr. Caddie is one that immediately comes to mind but there are many others as well. ScottHope is one. Callaghan159, Robert1893, yourself and many others for their benevolence. Maybe not exactly famous but Hall of Fame qualities for sure!
    Imagine the Enquirer these days? What with the turkey hats and magic clothes and all the crap that has come along since? It would be a riot!
    The memory of Dennis and the Andyson Memorial will far outlive the life of this game, that's for sure!





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    CEverett12
    14,177 Posts
    Sun, Jan 19 2020 6:59 AM


    Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Icon-quotetwinponds169:

    #1 is a given.
    After that, I would not want to rank any of the many other fine folks that have graced this game above or behind each other. .Lots of great peeps have graced this game over the years. Mr. Caddie is one that immediately comes to mind but there are many others as well. ScottHope is one. Callaghan159, Robert1893, yourself and many others for their benevolence. Maybe not exactly famous but Hall of Fame qualities for sure!
    Imagine the Enquirer these days? What with the turkey hats and magic clothes and all the crap that has come along since? It would be a riot!
    The memory of Dennis and the Andyson Memorial will far outlive the life of this game, that's for sure!



    Yes sir , I totally agree , There are many people who make the community a better place , 
     




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    andwhy67
    2,816 Posts
    Sun, Jan 19 2020 7:08 AM

    Henry




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    CEverett12
    14,177 Posts
    Sun, Jan 19 2020 8:16 AM


    Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Icon-quoteandwhy67:

    Henry



    LOL , I was waiting for that . His fame is for other reasons .
     





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    callaghan159
    5,807 Posts
    Sun, Jan 19 2020 8:26 AM


    Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Icon-quoteandwhy67:

    Henry



    Henry Winkler. He's the man. Ayyyy





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    drmoose
    3,507 Posts
    Sun, Jan 19 2020 12:01 PM

    Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Icon-quote CEverett12:
    There are many people who make the community a better place , 

     Indeed, it has been a great pleasure to interact with many of the fine folks on here. My short list would have to include (in no particular order) the O P, the other Opy, TP, SM, Bubbs, Wiger, Paulton, his name is Yancy, give a shout out fer Icon ( who's been around long enough to appear in some of the original cave drawings, w/ pink tutu, of course), Squirrel nutz,YJ, HPurey, Mr.C, Scott Hope, Mio, Miffy, the dearly missed darling of the forums Lizzy, and , of course , Dennis.
     Quite a few still with us, sadly, some not. It's truly been a trip, an' one I'll remember for the rest of my life.
    Doc Smile


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craigswan
26,590 Posts
Mon, Jan 20 2020 12:07 AM

Obviously the list from above but there must be one or two that have slipped the memory .
Still thinking about it .
But rob from charlie's angels springs to mind .
Now that is a story .
If your interested .





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opyeuclid
6,660 Posts
Mon, Jan 20 2020 4:20 PM

How about Faterson , the Cheese clan ,  Frapp , Borg , Pizza , Shoe , just to name a few . And the fun with Q for the new better game
by Paul
on Sat 26 Nov 2022, 11:40 am
 
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FROM THE WGT THREAD  Build Your Own Course

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andyson
6,415 Posts
Sun, Feb 7 2010 8:11 AM


  • A course editor was mentioned in another thread by Bimmerman50 which gave me this idea for a new feature.  Instead of designing your own courses and uploading to WGT, which AvatarLee correctly pointed out in the other thread would not be feasible, I submit it would be feasible to build your own course using existing holes!
    The Course Builder feature would allow you to create your own 9 or 18 hole routing using any hole, any existing tee,  any existing pin location, from any existing course.
    I'd see a click, drag and drop method to create your own course.  A list of available par 3s, 4s and 5s per existing course.  Click on one from KI, drag it to your new course scorecard, and drop it in hole #1 for example.  Click on another from BPB, drag it to your new course scorecard and drop it in hole #2.  And so on to complete your 9 or 18 hole course. Save it and give it an appropriate name. "Andyson's Aquatic Adventure" with only holes having water hazards could be one.  "Faterson's Fantastic Fantasy" for another.
    Par for 18 could be anything from 54 to 90!  Create an executive style course with 16 par 3s and a couple of short par 4s (BPB #2 red tees and KI #3 red tees) for a par 56 course.
    Play them only in practice mode of course.  Make them available to the public after trying them out.  Think of all the possibilities.  User originated tournaments on their own courses?  Could oppy come close to replicating Winged Foot using existing holes?? LOL
    Since it takes WGT a long time to introduce new courses and pin locations the community is crying out for variety....we're bored.  This feature provides plenty of variety, something else for the community to do, and lots (probably) to talk about on the forums.  WGT could even allow players to rate your new course.
    Second Idea along these lines: Build your own CTTH (I got dibs on the mulch behind KI #7)
     




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    spaceghost88
    1,618 Posts
    Tue, May 9 2017 3:06 PM

    Thanks Buddy We Miss Ya!
    We are gonna make Andysons's Aquatic adventure in your honor sir, RIP friend your very missed here!
    Update / 6-2-17 we built the Andyson's Aquatic Adventure course and just implemented it today, We miss ya buddy.
    *Andyson's Tribute Custom Course* "see info page"
    SG88





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    spaceghost88
    1,618 Posts
    Fri, Jun 2 2017 2:27 PM

    Update / 6-2-17 we built the Andyson's Aquatic Adventure course and just implemented it today, We miss ya buddy.
    *Andyson's Tribute Custom Course* "see info page"




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    rooftopp
    1 Posts
    Tue, Jun 19 2018 11:56 AM

    wheres the link on wgt to build a course ??
     





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    TopShelf2010
    10,626 Posts
    Tue, Jun 19 2018 5:59 PM

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    WigerToods2010
    8,224 Posts
    Tue, Jun 19 2018 6:20 PM


    Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Icon-quoteTopShelf2010:
    First and foremost, I got chills when I first opened this thread to reply and saw Dennis was the OP.


    Oh ffs Don... me too, me too I tell thee!
    Never ever seen this. As per usual Dennis was way, way ahead of wgt... years in this instance.

    Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Icon-quoteTopShelf2010:
    PS: We miss you Dennis


    Indeed we do.
by Paul
on Sat 26 Nov 2022, 11:06 am
 
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ChronicDiarrhea
539 Posts
Sat, Mar 4 2017 11:30 PM

We are a Christ-following Country Club looking to increase our membership of saved or sincere seekers. We are a level 15 Club looking to advance to level 16 soon. We have openings for several new members who desire to play this game and have Christian fellowship. Please check us out and bring your friends!
Saved by Grace - Ephesians 2:8
+++Praise Him+++
-Scott




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lonniescott711
4,154 Posts
Sun, Mar 5 2017 10:24 AM

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I am intrigued by he notion of a club that requires its members to be "saved".


Why there`s a real dating site that does it . Christian Mingle is a real live dating site that is set up to bring christian men and women together . A Band of Brothers recruits military veterans for their country club and I think there`s a club for women only as well if Im not mistaken . So a club to bring fellow christians together in the game whats wrong with that ?



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PSUTOM
188 Posts
Sun, Mar 5 2017 10:31 AM

I was saved once when my first wife divorced me,





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Jimbog1964
8,378 Posts
Sun, Mar 5 2017 1:41 PM

Oh my golly gosh..........................Hmmmmmmmmm......Smile
I wish IHGN all the very best for those that want that.  Hmmm...Saved,,,hmmmmm.  Politely the OP should realise religion is not really for here...some also good thinkers don't go for it, but also have rules imposed ................
 
Maybe stick to referencing sincere thinkers of a certain ilk (edit : guess saying christian based they might let through but not my shout), but drop the drop the saved / bible quotes bit and " saved " is argued over even within...Folks can discuss that within the walls if it's their thing.....hmmm enough Smile........
 
I am not sure the thread will last too long without doing something that way if you know what I mean


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ChronicDiarrhea
539 Posts
Sun, Mar 5 2017 10:55 PM

WOW! There goes another innocent post in the Forum

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txzdave
1,316 Posts
Sun, Mar 5 2017 11:34 PM

***    Curse those you need to. ***.
               Fuckit.



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txzdave
1,316 Posts
Sun, Mar 5 2017 11:45 PM

gimme an f.....gimme that u......gimme a c........Wait,    I like fu que.  OK....gimme a k!
                   What's my smell? What's that spell!
           whate'er. Ain't the funnest ain't worth defending.
                               I got a hair cut and feel 10 feet tall.
               See you after my anniversary. Maybe. Gettin' iffy.
              ~talxzdave~





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ChronicDiarrhea
539 Posts
Sun, Mar 5 2017 11:53 PM

Thanks Joe, Lonnie, Robert, and the rest for standing with me.
OK, let me tell you about my WGT name. Long before I started my WGT journey I was an authentic American Civil War reenactor and amateur Civil War historian. I read everything I could get my hands on concerning the American Civil War. There is a tremendous amount of information available for research and I really enjoyed learning about the lives of Union and Confederate soldiers. I happened to find some Union Army Official Records and it was a real treasure trove because there was so much detailed information. Browsing the Union Army medical reports I saw a pattern. The #1 physical ailment reported by the soldiers for almost all regiments was - Chronic Diarrhea!
At the time of this discovery of seeing this entry on so many medical reports must have been about the same time I joined up on WGT in 2009. All the good names were already taken so I just went with Chronic Diarrhea. End of story. Years later I conversed with the WGT staff about changing my name and they said I could close my account and rejoin WGT as a newbie. That really didn't sound appealing to me.
Then I became a Christian and asked to join this Country Club, In His Glorious Name. They accepted me without delay, even with this snarky name. Now several years later, the Club ownership was passed to me and I can see the need to recruit new members.
I want to let everyone know that IHGN does NOT require members to be saved. We don't even require members to be Christians. IHGN does not make demands on how our members lead their lives. However, our members do enjoy the Christian environment where we do share Bible scriptures, have Prayer Requests, Christian fellowship, and golf tournaments. I understand this environment is not for everybody and I truly respect that. In no way was there ever any intention to offend anyone. But I will not apologize for being a Christian. By God's grace we are all saved through faith.
I do believe there are Christians in WGT land.




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txzdave
1,316 Posts
Mon, Mar 6 2017 12:41 AM

     ChronicShit explains it all. Throw a f'ing dart at a name and ChronicShit ends up on the front row lookin' for a Pew? I love to hate your hypocrisy.
              You prolly have somethin' you can't forgive yourself for.      Here ain't the place to feel better with what you have to deal with. Scott, I hope you are well.
                      Don't worry 'bout me......I know me.
This ain't the place to be contradictory. Step up on the step stool and back off.
             Save this, You don't know saved.
           You've no idea what saved means.
                  4 footers for par...That's a save.
                         Work on yourself elsewhere.
I dance with words and I'm done for now.
             Wouldn't doubt time out.        I blame mine.         Done, Son. ~txzdave~







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txzdave
1,316 Posts
Mon, Mar 6 2017 12:58 AM

   And I couldn't care less how wrong I am. I always have been.
                       Whate'er.....
                Yeah, I'm as wrong as I've been. Get  Yo self some!
 
                  whate'er,
    ~txzdave~



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Jimbog1964
8,378 Posts
Mon, Mar 6 2017 2:58 AM

Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Icon-quote txzdave:
    4 footers for par...That's a save.


That right there is just a good line, IMHO Smile..No offense anyone just hit my sense of humour:)

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But I will not apologize for being a Christian


Neither should you be ever asked to......Certain branches and some old style beliefs I would hold to particular account in a respectful debating way, but provided they don't bother those that disagree all good really.

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By God's grace we are all saved through faith.


That is now a statement of religious conviction in a main forum, and it's a deep subject even within branches of Christendom.  Nothing to war over but it's a topic and a half in itself.
What about hobbits for instance.  Around, alive and kicking until 12,000 years ago.  Some still kicking on as leprechauns, they deserve it all........Light hearted not making fun.

Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Icon-quoteChronicDiarrhea:
I want to let everyone know that IHGN does NOT require members to be saved


Consider, "does not require everyone to go along with our notion(edit: OK firmly held for whatever reason belief) that such a thing exists".
FWIW and not bloomin much I accept LOL my way of looking would be v much in line with a certain Thomas Jefferson (most days on this and always as regards his constitution input)...By the by, save for statements of belief  which are not fact (did I say that save word LOL) good luck to you.  
 
Good luck anyway, but IMO at least enforce that you accept it's your take on things only, and do steer clear of direct quotes ay least (main forums anyway)........
by Paul
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Mushy01
2,567 Posts
Sat, Jul 13 2013 6:16 AM








  • [b]Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Icon-quote[b]WGT:[/b][/b]
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    WGT Stats The #1 online golf game with 18 famous courses including Merion, Pebble and St Andrews
     


     
     
    Actual quotes by WGT at the top of the home page.





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    alosso
    20,815 Posts
    Sat, Jul 13 2013 6:19 AM

    That corresponds to my recent findings:
    A fairly new user has a UserID above 7.200.000 .
    Any guesses how many of these have left some credits in the Pro Shop this year?





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    Mushy01
    2,567 Posts
    Sat, Jul 13 2013 6:32 AM

    bearing in mind it still only July , erm noo , wouldn't like to hazard a guess lol





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    caucus
    20 Posts
    Sat, Jul 13 2013 6:37 AM

    There aren't  millions of dedicated WGT players but there is a group of 16 (of which 8 are legends) who play together every day - YES, EVERY SINGLE DAY! It is called the EMG, which stands for Elite Members Group and it has it's own website where the members can meet & chat, without even being logged on to WGT. On the private chat, they arrange matches which are part of organised tournaments and nothing to do with WGT Country Club Tournaments. Currently there are five or six competitions running simultaneously in the SP, MP and AS formats.
    Membership is by invitation only and you can apply to join by going to this link:
    Elite Members Group





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    GitUsummaDis
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    Sat, Sep 3 2016 4:06 PM

    I did a search to find this thread about somebody that should be searching first. lmao





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    GitUsummaDis
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    Sun, Sep 4 2016 5:39 PM

    Just for anyone to try in practice and see if it works for you like it does me! I use 50% for Elev +. I use 25% for Elev -.
    So for a 200yd approach or Par3 20ft up becomes 210yds. 20ft down becomes 195yds. Just my 2 cents here. 
     
    Edited: My math sucked there. LOL





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    WilliamRay231
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    Wed, Sep 14 2016 1:32 PM

    Hello nolongerlonger,
    It’s been a long time since we played together. Look me up and I will pass along some of my notes on elevation changes and wind speeds. 
     


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That page struck me as so off the wall . LMAO .
by Paul
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MEET THE BOT FAMILY

I want to create a bot for posting on forums


Cain_Nuke


Aug '16#1

Hi,
I would like to create a bot but since its my first time I dont know where to begin from. Like for example what language can I use. I have experience with PHP and some python but thats about it I need a bot that does the following: check every 1 minute or so whether there is a new comment from a given user and then immediately post a reply to it. I want to upload it to a webserver and have it work full time.
Could you please put me in the right direction so I have something to start with?
Thank you.


Erik_Jpossible is a state of mind
Aug '16#2

I assume that the forum is your own. 
Then you can use serverside to respond to that given user when a post is made. (But I wouldn’t call that a “bot”.)
I suggest you use PHP to accomplish this. 
(Maybe you can ask to move the thread to the PHP forum?)



GandalfIrregular
Aug '16#3



(Maybe you can ask to move the thread to the PHP forum?)


Done!



colshrapnel
Aug '16#4

I want to create a bot for posting on forums

How many forums you need to post on?



MittineagueFormer Community Award Winner
Aug '16#5

Maybe taking a look at HUBOT could help some?
HUBOT  
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HUBOT 1.4k


Hubot is your friendly robot sidekick. Install him in your company to dramatically improve employee efficiency.



Cain_Nuke
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Aug '16#6


It doesnt have to be on PHP. I will take the option that better meets my needs. And no, the forum is not mine so it has to be something that works externally. Is PHP the best option then? Because please keep in mind that it the script, program, bot or whatever is called should work automatically without operator.
I only need to post on one forum. The bot should check every minute or so whether there is a new comment from a certain user and reply immediately. I guess that if this is done on PHP I would require to set a cronjob for my server to run the script automatically, right?



MittineagueFormer Community Award Winner
Aug '16#7



the forum is not mine so it has to be something that works externally


I guess the first step is to determine the API the other forum has for posting replies to a particular member.
Knowing that may influence the decision about what the best language to use might be.
Has the site given you an API key for you to experiment with during development yet?



Cain_Nuke
Aug '16#8

No, but I wrote a script myself that does something similar. If you access it on your browser it tells you how many posts that user has. My idea is to have the bot access that and whenever the number there changes make it run.



TO CONTINUE GO TO  : https://www.sitepoint.com/community/t/i-want-to-create-a-bot-for-posting-on-forums/235061/7
by Paul
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INTRO TO WGT VIDEO TUTORIALS compilation / with new INDEX

FINALLY A COMPREHENSIVE INDEX OF THIS WGT VIDEO TUTORIAL compilation FORUM

I know what it's like to not know who made the video or what it's actually about . Without having to play it .

LINK TO VIDEOS WGT VIDEO TUTORIALS compilation



WGT VIDEO TUTORIALS #1 HOW TO SCORE AGENTBROWN



HOW TO PLAY MISS THE DING STYLE ON PUTTS AGENTBROWN


PART 2 HOW TO PLAY DING STYLE ON PUTTS AGENTBROWN


BUGGYYY'S PUTTING TUTORIAL



THE SPEED PUTTING METHOD EZZY_CYCLOPS1



WGT MOBILE BAB'Z BUNKER CALCULATOR


WGT Mobile: Tackling Heavy Winds-Extra power, Extra aim


PUTTING TIP DEMONSTRATION WELLSSTRS


WGT UNOFFICIAL GOLF SHOT ACCURACY STICKER TRICK-TIP YANCY


NOTONTHIS -TIPS


WGT BEGINNERS GUIDE PART 1 AUSSIEJONNO2009


GOLF PUTTING TUTORIAL PBJAMIE



WGT MOBILE PUTT DISTANCE TUTORIAL PP AKA DAVE



WGT GOLF 3 TIP TOP TIPS FOR BEGINNERS PHIL PRIEST


WGT GOLF HOT TIP 2019 AKA GAME CHANGER YANCYCAN



WGT BEGINNINGS FOR BEGINNERS IROWAN1



WGT GOLF BUNKER SHOTS IROWAN1



WGT APPROACH SHOTS # 2 CAP KRACKEN


WGT BY SPECIAL REQUEST PETERPERFECTION


WGT MOBILE . HOW YA GOING ! PETERPERFECTION


WGT MOBILE PGA SUPERSTORE PLAYERS CLUB OPEN FR 9 PETERPERFECTION


WGT MOBILE PUTTING PEES ME OFF PP


WGT GOLF HOW TO SHARP YOUR GAME CARLOS HART


WGT GOLF PRACTICE MODE TUTORIAL DAD2147


WORLD GOLF TOUR: SKYTRACK GOLF SIMULATOR REVIEW MITCHYNEW


SKYTRACK AND WGT IPAD GRAPHICS AND GAMEPLAY REVIEW SCOTTISHPEDRO1


HOW TO READ YOUR LIE WGT GOLF HOW TO PLAN A SHOT TIGERWOODS2345



HOW TO READ YOUR LIE WORLD GOLF TOUR TUTORIAL WGT



WGT GOLF LEARNING YOUR GOLF CLUBS IROWAN1


HOW TO EQUIP YOUR BAG WORLD GOLF TOUR



HOW TO CHOOSE THE RIGHT SHOT WORLD GOLF TOUR


WGT MOBILE TOUCHSCREEN STRATEGIES PP


WGT MOBILE 33rd HOLE IN ONE YSONR



HOW TO PUT SPIN ON YOUR BALL WORLD GOLF TOUR WGT


CLUB BALLS AND MAPPING SUGGESTIONS REBBO AND LION



THE BEST WGT GOLF METER MODMAN001



WGT CADDY SCALE A UTILITY TO HELP GET THE POWER RIGHT FOR YOUR SHOT AUTOQSTAR



PUTTER PAL BIGSULLEY



DING ADVICE ( HOW TO HIT MORE DINGS ) WALKOFLIFE



WEDGE PLAY BASICS-NO WIND REBBO AND LION



NEVER THREE-PUTT AGAIN IN WGT TWISTED ROOT



MULTI-TOOL VARIABLE DOT SPEED BREAK CALCULATOR TWISTED ROOT



INTRO TO WORLD GOLF TOUR WGT


SINK MORE PUTTS IN WGT TWISTED ROOT



TOP GOLF TARGET GOLF GAME APP LET'S PLAY HOSTED BY YANCY



WGT PUTTING CHEATS VLR



HOW TO HIT THE EASY SWING CLUBS WGT



TORREY PINES COMING TO WGT



KEVISEEB WGT PUTTING TIPS



WGT GOLF FINDING A TOURNAMENT TUTORIAL DAD2147



BREAKING PUTTS/DOTS-HOLELION

Babzilla WGT Mobile: Short Putts that Everyone Hates



Babzilla WGT Mobile: Improving Wedge Game

by Paul
on Wed 09 Nov 2022, 10:03 pm
 
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WGT POETRY , QUOTES , MOMENTS , & MORE

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petervcpt
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Mon, Feb 15 2016 11:13 AM


Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Icon-quote jb6000:

2 months SOBER...
Life isn't much fun being sober, still waiting on all the good things to start happing.. At leased I'm in a new Country Club and I'm not the #1 pain in the ass Smile It's also gr8 to wake up without a hang over...
Your in our preys Peter...



Thank you JB. That means a lot to me. Especially as you are going through your own personal struggle.
And congratulations on achieving a huge milestone. Good stuff is already happening in your life, you just need to sit back, and realise it.
One day at a time bud. That's how we do it. One. Day. At. A. Time.
Sometimes it's really hard, sometimes you want to just give up, but what's the alternative?
Keep reminding yourself why you took that step. Why you FELT you had to take that step. And then go to sleep, knowing you have conquered another day.
Cheers,
Peter

That's the kind of person Peter was . Even while he was silently suffering himself .




May his soul live on forever .
by Paul
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ICONIAN's TIPS

WGT FORUM THREAD How to properly use chip and pitch clubs: A guide V2.0

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iconian
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Sun, Jan 3 2010 4:34 PM

*This has been fairly popular. I finally have some free time to properly update it with more readable language and better formatting. A special thank you goes to drivnchaos for his help with the wording.*
I know many of you have trouble figuring exactly how the chip and pitch shots work. Since all clubs have different distances, when using the chip or pitch shot, this will be a general guide. If you use this as a guideline, and practice a bit, you should be able to improve your short game.
During the first section of this guide we'll be using the standard clubs, standard green speed and standard ball. Later on the different green speeds and balls will be covered. Due to green speed changes, at the end of this guide, I will update with the details on how to adjust it.
If you do not read the last paragraph if this guide, then you might as well close the window now!
I'll start with the chip shot:
The chip shot gives about 25% air travel, the rest is time spent rolling on the green. Chip shot is most important when a person in on a fringe and has a putt with major break and/or elevation change. It allows you to carry few yards in the air, bypass all the nasty elevation/break and then land on green and roll in the roll. This means an accurate read of the green is needed when using this. Since the air time is so short, the distance from the green is also a big factor. If you are more than 2yds off the green, do not use the chip shot. The pitch shot is the better option.
 
Most often the chip is played using a wedge, but can be played with any iron. Remember that the ball spends alot of time on the green when chipping so the right/left break must be read accurately. It is probably best not to go any higher than a 9 or 8 iron for this reason. ie:
You're trying to chip a 35yd shot. Your ball will land about 9 yrds away, and roll another 26 yds. That's a 78 ft roll where the break of the green will influence your shot.
The distance of each club is the distance when playing from the fairway, to a level target. If You are standing on the fairway, the hole is 17yds away, and the elevation is 0, your shot should go about 17yds. Since this is usually not the given lie, here are a few things to factor into your shot.
  • 1) What is your lie in the rough and how far away is the green. Remember if you are more than 2yds from the green, don't use the chip.
  • 2)What is the elevation difference.
  • 3)What is the break of the green where your shot will first hit the green. The break may be slight near the hole, but remember that the ball rolls for 75% of the shot. Try dragging the aim arrow to where you think the ball will touchdown, and check the break there also.
  • 4)Always practice using 1 type of chip. I always use backspin, very rarely using topspin or no spin, so all distances givin are using backspin.

With these things in mind, here are a couple of examples. For these I'll be using a 17yd chip shot
A) You have a 13yd chip from 40/50 rough and the hole is 1ft below you. Your ball is on the edge of the rough, so there should be no problem using the chip shot. Now since you're in the 40/50 rough, more power is needed, but the hole is downhill so there is more run involved. That's the tricky part.
In general the 40/50 rough requires 40% more power to get the distance you want.That means in order to go 13yds, A shot with 19yds of power is needed. Remember this is with 0 elevation change.
The hole being 1ft lower than the ball means that a full 17yd chip shot from the fairway, would run to about 20yds. This is where practice is needed.
Knowing that the ball will go 20yds due to the downslope, and knowing more power is needed to release the ball from the rough, you need to find the midpoint of the 2 shots. From experience I've found that hitting with 15yds of power, and full backspin, I can drop it within 3ft 8 out of 10 times. Remember that this is a shot with no left/right break.
B) This one you're on the fairway chipping to an uphill green with a break to the right. A good example of this is Bethpage hole #11.
You're about 19yds short and the hole is 2ft uphill. The green breaks hard left to right. Remember that hitting uphill will require more power, but since you're on the fairway, not alot more. Also, the break will add distance to the shot. 1yd per foot uphill, and since I'm aiming about 1yd to the left, I'll add an extra yd. Thats 3yds extra power, aiming to the left about a yard. Usually this gets me up close to the hole. The best thing here is practice.
The thing to think about with chipping is this. It is a recovery shot. You have missed the green with your first, second, or third shot, and now you just want to save par. Getting it close to the hole, for an easy putt, is the important part. Course management and effective use of the chip, will save you at least 1-2 shots per round. As you will be consistently getting close to the hole, the chips will start to fall in.
Now I'll move on to the pitch shot.

The pitch shot gives about 50% air travel before hitting the green. This means less time rolling, and less influence from the break.
The pitch shot works well when you're to far away to chip. This is most often on Bethpage where the rough stops the ball quickly. The use of the pitch shot is essential on Bethpage.
Here are a few rules to follow for the pitch shot:
  • 1) From the fairway subtract 4 to 5 yards
  • 2) From 30/40 rough add 0 yard
  • 3) From 40/50 rough add 2 yards
  • 4) from 10/20 sand subtract 1 yards

The same rules apply to pitching as they do on chipping when an uphill/downhill approach is encountered. Also take into account the right/left break of the green. As I said earlier, the break has less influence because the ball is not spending as much time on the green.
The pitch shot is very useful when you are short of the green on Bethpage #10.  When I am in the rough or sand 22-28 yds out, I just follow the above rules, and I am within 5ft 90% of the time. There are some greens that have a large incline between the rough/sand and the hole. #5 and #6  on Bethpage are good examples of this. This is where being 2yds off your power can mean being stuck in the rough or being 10-12ft past the hole. The best advice I can give you is to keep notes on the trouble spots. That way when you are there again, and you will be lol, you can adust your shots for a better result.

As a final note on chipping and pitching. These 2 shots are probably the most consistent parts of this game. Being able to use them properly will easily shave 2-3 strokes off your game on Bethpage.

Just a few words on the punch option. I like to call this an advanced option
This shot works well on Bethpage to get yourself out a tough situation. The rough on that course is deep in most spots, and the punch shot can really save your round. I find that when punch is used, from the rough, the distance of the club travel is closer than that of a full shot. This also works when you are facing a headwind, from the fairway. A good example of this is Bethpage #1. A 188yd punch shot into a 9 headwind will go about 185yds. A 185yd full shot will only go about 177yds.

The punch has a few more fairway uses on Kiawah though. I regularly use it on holes #13, #15, and #16 for 2 reasons.
The first is those holes usually play a short by 3-4yds, and any kind of wind, along with deviations can cause havoc.
I once hit a perfect 128yd club with a 5 tailwind only to land at 115yds on Kiawah #16. By hitting the punch shot ther I can be sure it will get there.
The punch shot does take more practice, and a gentle touch, so I will not go into  much more detail. You will have to try it out, first by getting yourself out of trouble, then by experimenting with it in different situations. There are some shots where punch will easily save you par where ANY other shots will result in a bogey or worse!
The flop shot:
This has changed the most of all 3 shots. The key as always is to know the speed and slope of the green. For example, If you're in the bunker on Bethpage # 4, you have about 18yds to the hole. My flop is 15yds, but if I hit it full power, with full backspin, I will always land within 3ft of the hole. This is because it lands on a downhill slope. Flop is hard to aim, generaly rule is about 6-8 ft left of the hole but because flop is 75% air 25% run, wind highly influences it.
On the same #4 BP if you are left of the flag with about 25 yards left from the fairway, 4 types of wind on a fast grene will result in 4 different aim options and 4 different power settings. With 10mph tail wind, hitting as 21yards of power is enough, with 10 head wind, hitting with 24 yards of power is good. With 10mph right wind, aiming 2-3ft closer to the flag will do the trick. Since winds are rarely straight tail or head, practice will be required to adjust properly aim and power of the shot accordinly
Flop will probably be the lesser of the 3 shots you will hole out, but in some situations, because of it's flying tragectory, it will be the difference between par and bogey while utilizing any other shots.
Now the clubs :
You need to practice with them to understand the carry and roll. With the basic set you could count on a certain distance in the air and on the ground. The chip was always 25% air 75% roll, and the pitch was always 50% air 50%roll. The new clubs all seem to have their own distances so trial and error is the way there. Some clubs have the 50/50 split while others have a 75/25 split. Practice, again, will be the best thing.

The thing to remember is since the green speeds have increased, your short game must become more percise. Where 3ft long before was good, now it has become 10ft. I still recommend taking notes as to how each hole plays from each distance. Your notes, in combination with these tips, will have you rattling the flagsticks !
Lastly, there are VERY FEW places, where in my opinion any of the 3 shots can be used interchangibly (excluding punch). General rule is, always use same shot from same spot (that is, if you gotten close before). By far THE MOST IMPORTANT point of this guide, is to keep notes. If you do not keep notes about what you hit from what spot, how hard, and how far it was aimed as well as the result of the shot executed, then you will simply forget the shot you executed and will be frazzled the next time you get there.
Update 1/04/10

With the introduction of new clubs, balls , and green speeds, I thought the guide needed updating to reflect the lastest changes. The basics in the guide are still the same, there are just a few adjustments that need to be made.
I'll address the new balls first.
What is important here is extra distance and extra spin. Overall I think they make little difference on the chip/pitch/flop shots, but when combined with the new clubs and green speeds there is a noticeable change. Practice is the tip here. You just need to learn the new distances while applying the basic tips in the sections above.
The biggest difference, for chipping and pitching, are the green speeds. Adding in the slope and break of the green can mean the difference of being close before, and being 10ft past now.
The chip shot:
The same principle applies here. Know the lie percentage, the elevation change, and the right/left break of the green. The key here is the greens are faster, therefore the run will be further.
Lets look at that 13yd chip shot mentioned above. In the 40/50 rough a 40% power increase is needed. With a standard green speed this means 19yds is needed to go 13yds, on a flat surface. Now with a fast green speed, a power reduction is needed. I'd say reduce the power by 1yd on a fast green, and more on a very fast green.
The pitch shot:
The same principle applies again, but there is something to be added in. You must know where you are in relation to the hole. The best example of this is Kiawah #2. If you are 20yds long it will show the hole being 1ft up, but in reality once you are on the green, the hole is downhill 1ft. This type of misread will ruin your round. With this shot being from the fairway at 20 yds, with a flat surface you would want to hit about a 16yd pitch shot. Now when you factor in the green speed with a 1ft downhill green you're looking at a 14yd shot.
Another example would be the 40/50 rough pitch shot. Before it would have been a 27yd shot, now with faster greens and a downhill slope, you have a 25yd shot or less.

Lastly, there are VERY FEW places, where in my opinion any of the 3 shots can be used interchangibly (excluding punch). General rule is, always use same shot from same spot (that is, if you gotten close before).
By far THE MOST IMPORTANT point of this guide, is to keep notes. If you do not keep notes about what you hit from what spot, how hard, and how far it was aimed as well as the result of the shot executed, then you will simply forget the shot you executed and will be frazzled the next time you get there.
by Paul
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    JDGHOST
    5,277 Posts
    Sun, May 23 2021 4:02 AM

    Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Icon-quote pdb1:
    I know people random invite . Probably all day long .
      Is anyone else able or not able to join in random invites ?

    Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Giphy
     
    Ummm That would be me!!
    I don't even bother to search anymore ...I have given up hope WGT will ever get the "Lobby" situation in ALL formats back to the way it was on "Flash"
    How those days were great ....NEVER struggled to find  random players OR to join games randomly!! And inviting friends was easy as pie ...If they were  RED   or  GRAYED  OUT ...You simply didn't invite them .... GREEN  meant good to GO!! 
    This topic has been beat to death ...But it falls on def ears...



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    pdb1
    22,490 Posts
    Sun, May 23 2021 6:16 AM

    Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Icon-quote pdb1:
    I have been asking about invites in PCEA . All along . Especially CS . Not something they want to answer .
      What I want to know is if I am on the game client somewhere . How would I not be available for random multiplayer invites ?
      I want to be . I want to just show up or whatever happens when some one random invites .

    Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Icon-quote JDGHOST:
    Ummm That would be me!!
    I don't even bother to search anymore ...I have given up hope WGT will ever get the "Lobby" situation in ALL formats back to the way it was on "Flash"
    How those days were great ....NEVER struggled to find  random players OR to join games randomly!! And inviting friends was easy as pie ...If they were  RED   or  GRAYED  OUT ...You simply didn't invite them .... GREEN  meant good to GO!! 
    This topic has been beat to death ...But it falls on def ears...

      That's what I thought . Thanks for your reply .
      " Beat to death and Falling on deaf ears . "
      I used to think that is what needed to be done " relentlessly " ." Continuously " . Until these things either got fixed . Or they told us otherwise .
      But now it is all to obvious . That these , like many other features . Are simply not going to happen .
      THE PCEA PLATFORM DOES NOT HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DELIVER A USER FRIENDLY MULTIPLAYER FORMAT .
      That's the bottom line .
      I'm probably one of the last to hold out hope .
      This is very disconcerting . Especially knowing how famous they are for not admitting errors or false claims .
      One thing their silence does . Is truly let down high hoped and dedicated members .
      As witnessed by me when I searched 5000 " TRAILBLAZERS " . And found 500 barely active ones . The remaining 4500 were inactive . Along with pages and pages more of recently non active players from 2010 on up . Totaling in the 10's of thousands . All through 2020 . That didn't see any hope or reason to hold out for more disappointment .
      Looks like they were right .
      For the MP rounds that I can play , ( mostly coins ) . I have been making efforts to bridge the communication gap . That has worked ,very slowly . But at the same time . It is not helping in the my most favored other popular MP formats . That I can almost never get a game in . Even winning a majority of the coin games . Is a poor substitute for the real MP formats . Although Alt Shot does not count either . They are played with a higher level of respect and comfort and golf rapport . Even the coin players , step up a little more when entering an Alt Shot round .
      But the battles with the invites in the MP's . Is just not worth it .
      However . There is an alternative route to playing in the other MP rounds .
      If one really wants to play . There are several Discord servers with much WGT activity .
      All one needs to do is put on their earbuds . Sign in to one of the Discord servers . And immediately you will hear activity . Requests for players in a match .
      With a simple " I'm in " . You start friending the player or players . And are accepting an invite in no time .
      It is really that simple . I just found this out recently . Then my old earbuds stopped working . It took me till yesterday to get a cheap pair . I now can go and try this out . Again .
      Discord is amazing BTW . It is the most user friendly app in sporting/gaming communication .



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    SamSpayed
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    Sun, May 23 2021 10:33 AM

    Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Icon-quote pdb1:
      What I want to know is if I am on the game client somewhere . How would I not be available for random multiplayer invites ?
      I want to be . I want to just show up or whatever happens when some one random invites .

    To make yourself available to be invited to a multi-player game:
    Go to the GAME MODES, select the multi-player game type you want, then click the blue JOIN A GAME button.



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      What I want to know is if I am on the game client somewhere . How would I not be available for random multiplayer invites ?
      I want to be . I want to just show up or whatever happens when some one random invites .

    To make yourself available to be invited to a multi-player game:
    Go to the GAME MODES, select the multi-player game type you want, then click the blue JOIN A GAME button.

      Okay . I am aware of that method . That is the only way ?  I guess so .
      What that does . Is puts me in the top host spot anyway . But unable to invite . Might as well have just created the game from the start . Which is what I do now .
      Thank you Sam .
      I wish they would put the search box back in the invite lobby . So other players can suggest other people they see green but I don't .
      I also think most of the online players on my friends list . Play on mobile . And cannot accept my invites .



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      As was the Opens at Chambers Bay and Merion and others .
      It is amazing the details we can all recognize . That WGT got so well .
      Kiawah looks exactly like when we play it .
      It's so cool .



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      As witnessed by me when I searched 5000 " TRAILBLAZERS " . And found 500 barely active ones . The remaining 4500 were inactive . Along with pages and pages more of recently non active players from 2010 on up . Totaling in the 10's of thousands . All through 2020 . That didn't see any hope or reason to hold out for more disappointment .

    At the beginning of 2021  I had around 245 members (or so) in my club I gave everyone 90 days to become familiar  with the PCEA (If they weren't already) On April 1st I went thru my roster looking for who was still active ...


    I had 37 members that Played their last round on either 12/27/20 or 12/28 ...All of which were pretty active FLASH players ...So unfortunately I removed them ...It was not a coincidence none had been active post flash shut down ..So they jumped the WGT ship.. Then another 10-15 that stopped playing sometime in January or Feb  (I am assuming they gave PCEA a try but do to the inability to find multi-player games they gave up?)
     
    Now lets fast forward to about 3 weeks ago....A member started a thread in our forum basically complaining about that lack of random games he could join and OF COURSE he brought up the ALL GREEN friends list etc...etc... This thread became swamped with replies of similar complaints...
    So what's my point?? Glad you asked  I have 2 .... #1.... If MY club basically lost 20-25% of our players (And I mean gone from WGT altogether) Since the death of Flash  we can only imagine the total number throughout WGT Land...
    And #2...The more concerning issue is this.. Many WGTr's gave up when flash died without even giving the launcher a fair shake...I was almost one of um' (I'm sure some of you remember my ranting about the "New" version but let's not rehash the past) And I'm glad I stayed because I feel the "Playability" of the launcher is far better than flash ever was!! So those who bailed early on... That's their loss. BUT and this is a big BUT...They bailed due to the fact they maybe didn't want to adjust or they didn't like the look or playability of PCEA  compared to Flash and it was not what WE were all use to (PC players anyway)
    The players that are frustrated and giving up on our beloved game over "only" the last few months are leaving because of things not getting addressed and/or corrected .... 5 Months we have been complaining about many of the same issues and there STILL unfixed?? 
    The lobby situation is not 100% Fixed... I have still not had even ONE "Random" player show up to a skins lobby NOT ONE...  If you look at my play history you will see I play 80% skinner games and I mean a TON of um !! So to NEVER have even 1 random player show up in over 100 or more random invite attempts?? On flash I/we never had a problem we always found a random 4th when needed....Same issue in Match play ....I found  3 or 4 games out of maybe 50 attempts ...So SOMETHING is still not right ..
    And the number 1 Glaring Problem ....Drum roll please ........BING ..How can we STILL be talking about a friends list that shows EVERYONE ONLINE ONLY
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    I mean how hard could in be to to have 3 colors for an online friend????
    Whew ...Rant over 😞



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      I hear you JD . But if you remember . Before this 5 months . For over a year we had PersonalComputerEarlyAccess . Probably nearing 2 years by now . So many of us have had a good glimpse of what was coming .For a very long time .
    Welcome to WGT Early Access! . Was started , Mon, Sep 30 2019 1:04 PM
    WGT Desktop Early Access for Mac . Was started , Thu, Nov 21 2019 2:16 PM
      I think your numbers of 20 - 25 % are good . Maybe a little low . It is so hard to tell .
      I also don't think the early exiters are sorry they left .
      You also say you feel the playability is much better . Well I don't feel that way . Before the end of Flash I felt I had a chance to make TL . I have given up on TL .
      So that leaves solo , coins , CTTH's . Which I am not as good as I was in Flash . None of those 3 I enjoy .
      I attempt to play MP Stroke and Alt Shot everyday . Stroke is impossible . And I can sometimes get a full round of Alt in . But not everyday .
      I too was stunned at the direction WGT went with the adaptation to the mobile platform . As you may remember I thought it would be a disaster .
      Especially seeing with my own eyes . All the recently ( in the last 2 years ) inactive players . An astronomical number . I would find a very active " TRAILBLAZER " with 15 yes 15 pages of friends . 14 of which were inactive . I ran across similar to that , more than several times .
      But I stayed on . At first I really thought that it was just a matter of time before it would smooth out .
      I no longer feel that way . In fact . After each upgrade . It takes me longer to load the rendering . Because they are adding codes and files of course . That is what we are asking for . And with little to no headway . Where I am able to enjoy the formats I like .
      I now believe that this platform is very limited . Is not capable of the many features and intricate and specific options that we were used to .
      Some are saying that it already is . Maybe for them .
      But I had some problems with Flash since 2016 . When I was forced to play with WiFi . Very Low Definition . It is all I can get . Or afford . But the landline feed for the high speed ethernet . Is broken and corroded . The cable company COX refuses to pay for the repairs . As do the landowners in this section of the desert . And are in bad standing with each other . And always will be .
      But like I said . I had it much better with Flash as far as my connection and smoothness of play .
      I have said before . That I will eventually give up . I am sure that is true .
      I really have no idea how many others are in the same boat as me . I can get no affirmations or denials . Much like I felt running a Country Club . I can make all kinds of inquiries . That i know people read . But they have no intention of responding .
      There is also the high number of rounds that I attempt daily . With many failures . And a % of those are players quitting . Not willing to wait for my 60 to 90 second load rendering . Pre tee . The only delay in the game . But at least 1 per day will quit so fast . That my system can't keep up . The game thinks I didn't return in time and I get the forfeit and the loss of coins . Thankfully I know to screen shot every step of the way ( which is also a pain in the ass ) . And have submitted over 200,000 coins worth of false forfeits . And been reimbursed for about 50,000 .
      Many problems with game play . That I know I am not alone in . So the game itself is tough for me
      Then there is the years and years of moderation . For absolutely nothing . Moderation being separate from CS . Moderation refusing to talk with me .
      All the while I am providing QA with valuable data , screen shots and videos of various scenarios . That they are very thankful for . And if it were up to them . I would not be moderated .
      Moderating me has got to be the most wasted use of the moderation departments time that they have ever had . IDK if they are just stupid . Or maybe they are getting a good laugh . Between bong hits . There is no logic , reason or benefit to keeping me moderated .
      It is irritating to say the least . And if I actually thought about it . I would be gone based on that alone .
      But JD . Those are only yours and my viewpoints on these matters . There are so many different groups and genre's and perspectives on all of that . And only some of it has common threads . And that would be the love of Golf .
      That is not enough . Especially at this time . With the new crowd . Now becoming interested in making their rounds count . Moving up in tier . Lowering their average . Acquiring better equipment .
      There is only one solution for that . Since WGT dropped the ball with them .
      They must now learn and immerse themselves in the same adventure that we all went through and still adhere to . The system we created and perfected . Is the only system in town . That works .
      That is in the future and near future . And has barely started . That will certainly be interesting . And will take a good many years . Who knows what will lay on the other side of the creating of an all new WGT Universe .
      I do wish you , them , every one the best of success .
     
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SOME INTERESTING CHATS WITH A VERY COOL MEMBER "ACETATE"

Thanx

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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 13 Nov 2015 at 5:20 AM[/b]

Thanx for the post in CC Corner . I appreciate it .



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[b]acetate wrote
on 13 Nov 2015 at 11:01 AM[/b]

You're welcome.




the VOTSCC website

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[b]acetate wrote
on 13 Nov 2015 at 12:49 PM[/b]

After taking a cursory review of everything that is the VOTSCC website I have a comment and a question.
The website is a digital representation of you. In its content, its appearance, its feel. That's all good as you are the heart of the VOTSCC.
As you said nobody makes use of the site. This is a problem because we need them to do just that. WGT offers so little to country clubs in the way of building and supporting an organization. Their idea of a CC forum is pathetic and yet that is the best tool they offer.
We can make the VOTSCC website into a forum that our members will use. To do so we would have to rip apart almost everything you have done. We would have to extract the personality of Paul and that is not something we want to do.
What we could do is keep your site. Let it remain a site that expresses who you are, both in content and appearance.
To serve our club I could launch another forum. This forum would be plain in appearance yet full of functionality.
While that is my recommendation this is your club.


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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 13 Nov 2015 at 2:34 PM[/b]

  It just so happens that I have a reserve site . Ripe and waiting your master plan . This site is just an empty site ready to rock and roll . The name could be changed . All the fromats could be setup as a sister forum with everything you could thing of . Only one click away . 
  It is mine to do just that . 
http://thedeserttour.forumotion.com/
  here is the last conversation I had with Sage about it .
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  I am hoping you like this idea . You could run with it . And we wouldn't have to change a thing in the mother site . They could link with no problem at all . I hope 



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[b]acetate wrote
on 13 Nov 2015 at 3:18 PM[/b]

Let's do this. I'm stoked. Can you set me up with an admin account?
As with everything else I'm going to run this site by you before anyone else even knows it exists.
This will be fun.


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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 13 Nov 2015 at 3:21 PM[/b]

Well do you have an opinion yet ? What browser do you use btw ? oh did you get your password ? 
youareinace


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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 13 Nov 2015 at 3:29 PM[/b]

 Okay I was typing while you were . You already are admin . And I will only be interested in what you are doing . Not giving approval . Because I approve already . It is your baby . 
  You will want to register here . It is the forum providers support forum . 
http://help.forumotion.com/forum
  The moderators are volunteer idiots . but have helped me through this . What is useful is the tutorials for everything forumotion . lol remember it is UK based . Terminologies are going to make you say WHAT THE FCK DID HE JUST SAY ? lol .
  You may even have an occasion to post an inquiry there . 


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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 13 Nov 2015 at 3:32 PM[/b]

Please take your time . Change everything if you want please keep it relative to VALLEY of the SUN CASUAL CLUB . I might even be able to help . 


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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 13 Nov 2015 at 3:35 PM[/b]

 I used to have an in with the banner design crew . They are very professional if you have some ideas .
  I just down loaded . Adobe Creative Cloud trial version . just to see if i could use it to make better trophy's and the like . 


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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 13 Nov 2015 at 4:16 PM[/b]

Are you able to get in ? Remember the log in for these forumotion sites are tricky . The text is the same color as the background for username and password . So highlight . If acetate is in the username . then likely the password is correct . Just click log in 



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[b]acetate wrote
on 13 Nov 2015 at 4:36 PM[/b]

I have logged in. It doesn't look like you made me an admin.



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[b]acetate wrote
on 13 Nov 2015 at 4:37 PM[/b]

I use Firefox, Safari and Chrome. I play WGT in Chrome.


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[b]acetate wrote
on 13 Nov 2015 at 4:38 PM[/b]

Am I taking this away from Sage? I don't want anyone with hurt feelings.




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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 13 Nov 2015 at 4:40 PM[/b]

 Do you not have the admin panel link  at the bottom ? 
  The firefox and safari may have username edit issues in admin . The chrome probably will not . 
  I will go check but I definitely made you admin . 




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on 13 Nov 2015 at 4:46 PM[/b]


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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 13 Nov 2015 at 4:48 PM[/b]

Please log in to the chat


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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 14 Nov 2015 at 9:43 PM[/b]

It looks to me like you may have missed your own tourney . I looked in the forum and it appeared that Skip had tried to invite you and got declined ? IDK . Let me know what happened . 


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[b]acetate wrote
on 14 Nov 2015 at 11:20 PM[/b]

I didn't decline. I saw the invite, tried to accept it and it said it was canceled. It then showed another invitation that said there was two and a half minutes left on the invite. Again I tried to accept and was told it was canceled.
I thought that Skip canceled when he noticed that Harry wasn't there.
I suspect it was just another glitch in WGT software.
I waited from 9 p.m. until 10:30 but Harry never showed.


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[b]acetate wrote
on 14 Nov 2015 at 11:23 PM[/b]

When Harry didn't show I was going to setup and alt shot game with Skip, his partner and invite you as I saw you online. Just as I was starting Skip and his partner switched their status to busy.
One of these days I will play an alt shot game. I'd rather not have my first with strangers but that looks like the most likely to occur.




[b]pdb1 wrote
on 14 Nov 2015 at 11:44 PM[/b]

Oh that is no problem . I play with strangers all the time . No expectations . It is good practice . I also play stroke " join a games " .Never know anyone in those . 
  Ok maybe just a short little explanation to Skip . If you feel like it . 



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[b]acetate wrote
on 14 Nov 2015 at 11:51 PM[/b]

Already done. I sent Skip a note to apologize the issue. I don't want anyone in the league to have hard feelings.





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[b]acetate wrote
on 15 Nov 2015 at 12:03 AM[/b]

... had a group that participated heavily? By that I mean them would play in most tournaments. Out of a group of 50 every tournament would have 20+ playing.
I did a quick survey of a group o completed tournaments. We averaged just over 8 players per tournament.


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[b]acetate wrote
on 15 Nov 2015 at 12:07 AM[/b]

While my alt shot tournament has stumbled badly out of the gate it has increased communication in the forum and started players messaging members they have never dealt with before.
As I said many times, if I'm expecting the unattainable or trying to take your club somewhere you don't want it to be JUST STOP ME.
I have been isolated from the world for so long that I can become a bit over zealous.


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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 15 Nov 2015 at 12:57 AM[/b]

Participation : We have at times very high participation 60% to 80% of eligible tiered members participating and sometimes more . Your average is a false or not based on potential eligibility on  as many tourneys are tiered and maximum entry for upper level say would be around 29 and often have 20 plus entrants . Lower tiers have only 13 members and tour masters are in their own zone . So with the average of 3 groups at 16 . Your 8 would be 50% and that would be during a slow spell .
 messaging never dealt with because they are new . Lol just a temporary burst . This group is not predictable . They are for the most part far from ideal CC members . But I started with much worse . This what we get . All you can do is try Ace . But do not expect any big changes that will stand for long . 
  This group just doesn't have it . I have never had a group that does . It used to be my objective . B




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on 14 Nov 2015 at 8:36 PM[/b]

What do you think about having a golf league? We could:


  • Play one or two rounds a week.
  • Each round would be 9 holes.
  • They could be tracked using the tournament feature of WGT.
  • We could have two player teams. Single player.
  • There are a number of types of leagues we could play.
  • Maybe we divide the participants into two divisions.

    • Half way through the season we could play a Ryder Cup type competition between the divisions.
    • We could do this again at the end of the season.



  • Scores and standings would be posted on our new forum site. This would drive players to the site to find out where they are in the standings as well as have the chat available.
  • Since we would be leveraging the WGT tournament engine people could play at whatever time they wanted.



I'm just looking for ways to build excitement and keep mixing things up.
 

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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 14 Nov 2015 at 10:50 PM[/b]



  • They could be tracked using the tournament feature of WGT.

  •   Don't know what you mean by this . Please be more specific . I'm game for anything . But it is very hard to get others to participate .



 I found out why Skip got butthurt . It seems that you PM messaged some info to Kevin . That he thinks you should have PMed him too . And felt like he was intentionally left out of the loop .
  IDK  but you do have to be careful not to leave some out . It will keep you very busy .
I guess your tourney/ match was done when harry didn't show ? IDK .


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[b]acetate wrote
on 14 Nov 2015 at 11:28 PM[/b]

I PMed Kevin early in the evening when Skip had yet to show. I didn't know if Skip was going to be working or if they would be available for play.
I will ping Skip to apologize, even though I didn't do anything. It is better to keep the team together than worry if I was right or wrong.




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on 14 Nov 2015 at 11:39 PM[/b]

In going back through my message thread it was Kevin that sent me a message to which I replied. He didn't include Skip. That is how the communication started.
Regardless I apologize to Skip.



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[b]acetate wrote
on 14 Nov 2015 at 11:49 PM[/b]

As for the league idea, what I meant by tracking using the WGT tournament features is this.


  • Each week I would create a single play tournament for the league.
  • The first week would be something like VOTSCC League Play Week #1.
  • With each following week there would be a VOTSCC League Play Week #___
  • This way the league members could play their game anytime during the week.
  • For example if we played 2 member teams in the league:

    • The four players (2 teams of 2) none of the players would need to play at the same time.
    • At the end of the week, their individual 4 results in the weekly tournament would determine who won their match.
    • I would then post the results and update the standings.



  • Unlike the fiasco I created with the alt shot tourney and its scheduling nightmare, this league approach would be flexible to fit the playing habits of everyone.



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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 15 Nov 2015 at 12:31 AM[/b]

Yep . Thats a good idea . What are your thoughts on how you would be tiering them ?




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on 15 Nov 2015 at 8:53 AM[/b]

I don't know.
Part will depend on what interest is shown. If there is enough where we can have separate leagues for a given tier our job is simple. If the opposite occurs ...
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email addresses

Between acetatepdb1


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[b]acetate wrote
on 08 Nov 2015 at 7:21 PM[/b]

Hey Paul, do we have a list of email addresses for our members?
BTW, how are you?


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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 08 Nov 2015 at 8:21 PM[/b]

  I am fine . Did you receive a Newsletter ?
  Emails of course everyone submits an email when they register in WGT . As they use each function it enables notifications for each function in their emails . You know this already . So as I request registration in the website . It also requires an email . So yes I have an email address for every member of the CC and then some . Of course there are many members from other CC's in the website and some members not in a CC at all .
  But of course as admin I am entrusted to not release any personal information . So of course I would not do that .
  But prior to my acquiring the website . Being a CC owner I received emails from many members and PM's from friends . I think I mentioned to you that at one point I had over 1000 friends on my list . So I tried to do group emails from my gmail . But with so many emails and so many ex CC members , and then just WGT friends that had no reason to receive my emails . The list was in the hundreds and impossible to keep up to date . So that method did not work .
  Lol at that time . WGT's " message all members " was only available to owners . It did not work then . Then earlier this year WGT enabled more functions in CC's which included a feature for members to message all members . Lol . That did not work either . As far as I know . Have you tried it ?
   As I have indicated previously you are likely to join my admin here at some point . Why do you ask about the emails ? I can help with that . How many do you want to send ? To all CC members I suppose . Let me know what you have on you mind .


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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 08 Nov 2015 at 8:26 PM[/b]

do we have a list of email addresses for our members?
  Come on Ace . You can't play dumb with me . You know fcking well that those lists just aren't lying around somewhere . Lol . Just talk to me bro . I gotta trust you first . And then you will have access to all media functions .


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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 08 Nov 2015 at 8:38 PM[/b]

  Real quickly here . I am sure you have all the fancy spread sheets and what not available to you for making your tournament and it's roster . 
  I use primitive methods for all mine , like Maxthon's Skynote , then copy and paste , or blank forms in photobucket . Writing , making , and editing in the website is another way . I could make a forum for your new tournament . You and , then them could just click on it and all the topics would be there as you created them . I will do that right now . Then I gotta make this weeks BLITZ scorecard .


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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 08 Nov 2015 at 8:43 PM[/b]

ACE'S " Best of the Alternate Shot Championship "



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[b]acetate wrote
on 08 Nov 2015 at 8:49 PM[/b]

You are probably going to slap me for this but here I go.
I'm trying to find a way to notify all of our members of my alternate shot tournament. Since many don't read the forum and my tournament doesn't show in the country club tournaments under the WGT game client there is roughly, what would you guess, 50+ percent of our CC that doesn't know it exists.
This is where you slap me, saying that it is too f#cking bad for them. I agree.
Still I want these tournaments to go. I know that I could PM each and every one of them individually. I was trying not to spend half my day doing so.
All that said I understand the privacy issue. I would be happy if the WGT contact members function worked or if we had a distribution list where members could email to the list without knowing the individual email address for every one.
I could setup a distribution list if you then wanted to load it with the emails, or is there already a similar feature on the VOTSCC website?



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[b]acetate wrote
on 08 Nov 2015 at 8:53 PM[/b]

I was planning on using Challonge for the brackets. I like what you did with your tournaments and Challonge. I would like to build upon that.
If you haven't figured it out yet I'm learning anything and everything you care to share.



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[b]acetate wrote
on 08 Nov 2015 at 8:57 PM[/b]

To answer one of your questions in this thread, yes I could develop crazy wicked pivot table spreadsheets that would let you look at our CC from any way imaginable.
My company use to do a lot of that with the solutions we delivered. Taking away the limits that client's IT departments created. Providing instant access to all data with the ability to slice and dice to your heart's content.



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[b]acetate wrote
on 08 Nov 2015 at 8:58 PM[/b]

Thanks for setting up the thread out on VOTSCC.


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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 08 Nov 2015 at 11:43 PM[/b]

  Okay . I am used to people doing everything else but what I suggest . I was even going to gogle some other bracket generators for you . Who woulda thunk you were actually thinking of doing something I suggested like Challonge . Not I in a million years . Ok good deal then you are already well on your way .
  You never did answer me . Did you receive the newsletter ?
  "Thanks for setting up the thread out on VOTSCC."
  Your welcome . You aint seen nothin yet .
    Anyway I am hoping you received the newsletter . A feature in the website that allows group emailing . In specific groups . With delayed option that can be set for anytime in the future . Probably only good for New Years and birthday's . But there already is a birthday notification option that I could set to send a birthday greeting to a member . But no one enters their birthday . So that is useless .
  I have already told you that i am not at all schooled in anything forum  html , bbc , css , java script , wysiwyg , editing , etc . And what it makes worse is the forum makers are from the UK and their terminologies throw me off . Even if I knew the exact English description . That would only help me know what they were talking about . But I still wouldn't know how to utilize it . 



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on 09 Nov 2015 at 8:20 AM[/b]

You gave me my first laugh of the day in your comment about the British terminology. I know exactly what you mean.
I did receive your newsletter. Cool deal. Have you been doing that for awhile? I would love to see just how many of our members that don't participate in the forums at least visit a specific thread after reading your newsletter.


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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 09 Nov 2015 at 11:33 AM[/b]

 




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I just noticed that you have not answered any of my PM's . You have not confirmed the newsletter either . *** . If that's the case ? I will only send you this bottom portion by email . And you will have no idea what I have instore for you . Lol . But you probably get this .

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acetate, pdb1 from "Valley of the Sun C C" - https://www.valleyofthesuncc.com

 Okay . I am on lunch I have 2 minutes . You established that you received the newsletter , because I have enabled it . Did you receive any PM's from the site ? If you have then you already know the news . If you have not then we have a problem . See you in about 4 hours . 

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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 09 Nov 2015 at 7:49 PM[/b]

 Have you been doing that for awhile?
  Yes at least once a week . Sometimes more . For most of 2015 .
 I would love to see just how many of our members that don't participate in the forums at least visit a specific thread after reading your newsletter.
  Yes and I use the newsletter as a conduit to push the forum on the members . In fact most of them are just titled Quick links / date / little or no commentary , just links to the forum . I am consistent . I know they don't care about a newsletter update . I just have tried everything  and even this quick link I think has little results . I cannot explain how frustrating it is to know that so much of what I suggest is so easy and only takes a couple minutes . I still get not even minimal . I get that they have jobs and family . I do too . I spend way too much time here . But I don't want that from them .
  See this .I think this is his first maybe second post ever .




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        Well it's about time Mike . Good to here from you bro . Keep in touch will ya ? 
        Thanx 
        Paul
        Don't hurt yourself going so far out of your way to make this once in a lifetime post Mike .






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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 09 Nov 2015 at 7:50 PM[/b]

  The title is " here " . I should just boot him .

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[b]acetate wrote
on 09 Nov 2015 at 8:43 PM[/b]

He has been here 5 weeks more than me yet has made 4% of the posts that I have.
Why do people join a country club if they don't want to participate in the country club? I'm sure that is a question you ask yourself on a daily basis.

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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 4:29 AM[/b]

  He was a return member . one that I had removed previously , then asked to return and led me to believe he would step up . That is common . Then I re remove them . 

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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 4:35 AM[/b]

  You can see that in the website his join date was early June . Which probably means his original CC join date was late May .
  Lol . Watcha gonna do 

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[b]acetate wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 9:37 AM[/b]

Hmm... Since you gave up drinking and I can't I suppose we could practice our alternate shot game.

alternate shot tournament pairing

Between acetatepdb1


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[b]acetate wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 9:38 AM[/b]

Any suggestions on how I should go about pairing?


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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 11:47 AM[/b]

  Yes . While I have 6 more minutes of lunch . It is very easy . Depending on the range of your tiers . Basically lower with lower middle with middle , upper with upper . Here is a helpful guide for making tourneys and match ups . Remember the higher green speed per matchup trumps . So try not to make it so it increases more than 1 green speed . I think this is the fairest method .   
Hardest: Legends and TLs
 
Hard: Masters and TMs
 
Medium: Pros and TPs
 
Easy: Hacks and Amateurs.
 
The standard green speeds:
 
TLs: Championship 13 
 
Legends: Tourney 12
 
TMs: Tourney 11
 
TPs and Masters: very fast 10
 
Pros: Fast 9
 
Amateurs: Standard 8
 
Hacks: Slow 7


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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 11:52 AM[/b]

 There is now a faster champion speed I think but that is not up there . Legends , Tour Legends , and champions have to grouped together . Tour master is the toughest one to figure . If there are masters to match them with then that will work . If not then more likely better to go up then to legend .



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[b]acetate wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 2:21 PM[/b]

If I'm understanding you as long as only the two players that are a pair in this tournament are playing a game, then the green speed of the higher level player will be used.
For example if we were paired, then we would be playing with a green speed ofTourney 12, as you are a Legend while I am a lowly Pro.
On the other hand if I were paired with Harry we would be playing at Very Fast 10, as Harry is a Tour Pro while I am still that lowly Pro.



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[b]acetate wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 2:21 PM[/b]

If I'm correct so far, then I would pair as follows:
Harry & Ace
Racinray76 & Jimq916
the eight Legends and Dan, the single Tour Legend would be matched via a draw
Kmamjmemedmmm & Skip380



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[b]acetate wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 2:22 PM[/b]

Or do I just shuffle everyone and play the tournament at Champion 13 green speed?


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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 3:14 PM[/b]

  Picking the pairing is the way to do it . You have the right idea . Basically matching teams and opponents woek almost the same if possible . DO NOT EVER pick faster green speeds if you have a choice . Which you do not . No one even the Legends , Tour  Legends , And Champions LIKE their faster default championship green speeds . But they have no choice . And as the tournament creator unfortunately you do not either . I repeat ( It'll take you a while )( as I already wrote you all this in another thread ) in any match play or stroke play normal ranked or scored round the default green speed of the highest tier is AUTOMATICALLY chosen . 
  Unless you choose to play the tournament in practice mode where the green speeds can be chosen by the person who sets the match . This is acommon format for these types of matches that bare played through Challonge . As the scoring method is determined by you which means a practice round match that does not count in WGT . Will count in a Challonge match with the scoring determined by you . 
  I don't know if you follow all that . Read it carefully . I will help in all ways . But I would prefer not to type and type and type . 


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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 3:16 PM[/b]

the highest level out of the 4 players will automatically be chosen .


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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 3:26 PM[/b]

  Are you filling a bracket in challonge ? If so unless you have studied some of mine and figured out what and how I made up alt shot brackets . It is very difficult to do As you have to change the username of the registered challonge members to something else because the bracket maker will not allow you to put two registered usernames on the same line . 
  Omg  Ace I can't imagine what you are feeling and thinking right now . I know what I went through . And I really would never wish that on any one else that I liked anyway . But it can be done . I will help you .


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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 3:38 PM[/b]

  If you are filling a bracket in challonge on the bracket generator page at the bottom in advanced settings there is an option for shared admin . You might want to put me in that It might help .


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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 3:41 PM[/b]

 Because so far you have not shared your info with me or any one . So I am only guessing . 




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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 3:46 PM[/b]


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[b]acetate wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 6:20 PM[/b]

Link to tournament on Challonge.com - http://challonge.com/botasc01
You have admin rights. I setup an 8 count bracket, figuring 2 players for each slot.
We will use practice mode, per your recommendation. What do you think about:


  • Very fast 10 green speed.
  • Medium wind.
  • Default tee and hole location.




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[b]acetate wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 6:24 PM[/b]

If this sounds good to you I am going to post the settings in the thread. If you want to fill in the brackets I can post that in the thread as well.
If you don't have the time I will fill in the bracket. You can change as you see fit.

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[b]acetate wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 6:29 PM[/b]

You remember that this is my first tournament. If I should post something or do something at a given time just tell me. You are not going to take offense if you say, 'Hey stupid, get your *** together.'
I learn pretty quick, so hopefully you won't have to call me stupid too many times.

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[b]acetate wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 6:44 PM[/b]

This is how I see the seeding:


  • skip380 - champion - 91 - 61.87




  • kmamjmemedmmm - champion - 94 - 62.52




  • flavel - tour legend - 101 - 61.54




  • dan - tour legend - 94 - 61.86




  • gru1971 - legend - 94 - 59.75




  • xdout - legend - 102 - 61.56




  • pdb1 - legend - 98 - 63.19




  • sage013 - legend - 98 - 63.29




  • nitamgoht - legend - 99 - 63.93




  • bertasion - legend - 87 - 64.74




  • bill - legend - 92 - 64.66




  • gene - legend - 92 - 65.34




  • racinray75 - tour master - 93 - 67.80




  • jimq916 - tour master - 97 - 79.68




  • harry - tour pro - 93 - 69.44




  • ace - pro - 46 - 72.47



Each two will be a pair, starting from #1 & #2 down to #15 & #16.
If this looks good to you I will plug them into the brackets.


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[b]acetate wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 6:52 PM[/b]

I went ahead and plugged them into the brackets. If that looks good I will post it to the thread.

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[b]acetate wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 6:53 PM[/b]

I'm closing down for the night. Thanks for your help today.

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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 7:37 PM[/b]

  You are doing a very good job . One very important thing to do is post in our WGT CC forum that
  MY tournament is going to played through challonge . If you are not already please register in challonge with your WGT username . I will be posting the sign in link on my next post after everyone is registered . 
  The brackets will be live on page 3 in our website . Some of you know the routine . For some of you and myself , this will be our  first attempt at this . So all of your help and cooperation will be needed and appreciated . 
  Thank God we have Paul to help us do this and have fun . And hope the next thing you hear won't be crickets . Lol . 

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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 7:40 PM[/b]

   The statement below in bold is optional 
Thank God we have Paul to help us do this and have fun . And hope the next thing you hear won't be crickets . Lol . 

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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 7:49 PM[/b]

  After all the teams are set, you MAY receive an e-mail stating that you have been removed from the tournament (IGNORE THIS).
  DO NOT SIGN UP AGAIN! Challonge requires combining (2) players into one slot and assigning scoring rights to the first player listed.
  YOU HAVE NOT BEEN REMOVED, BUT HAVE BEEN LISTED AS A TEAM!!!
  There are other various reasons to shuffle and move players around . Each time this happens an automated email from Challonge is generated stating that you have been removed from the tournament . Again IGNORE THIS !
  Inevitably no matter how many times I post this notice . Several players Message me and say WTF Paul FCK YOU and your tournament . Remove me you a** hole . Go fck the donkey you rode in on . 
  It happens everytime . Lol.

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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 10 Nov 2015 at 7:53 PM[/b]

  You might post that whole thing . I would . They will know I wrote it . I will try to get to the bracket tonight . I am very tired also . If not I will do it tomorrow . I got layed off today . And will have a little time . Lol .

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[b]acetate wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 1:55 AM[/b]

I went without having them signup for Challonge. I figured that it would be difficult enough scheduling a time for their game and dealing with the configuration of a practice alternate shot game.
If I crash and burn I just hope that this will not turn everyone off to trying formats of tournaments other than what WGT restricts us to offer.

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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 7:16 AM[/b]

  Inform the participants with a forum post that you are working to get it ready . you need to get the rounds set . Round 1 , semi finals , and finals click on each round from page 3 and edit .

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[b]acetate wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 8:10 AM[/b]

Thanks Paul.
Done. I made the edit from Challonge. I want to be familiar with and know how to manage tournaments from their site.

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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 2:16 PM[/b]

they have no idea what you are talking about . They have never heard of something like this before . I have tried every way there is to play these tournaments . You can't cut corners . All participants must literally be on the same page . there is no other way . At the very minimal the 4 in each bracket . But that won't work . What is the pre tournament check in time ? what is the tournament start time ? these have to be established this cannot work in an informal setting .

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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 2:18 PM[/b]

 you must write up the procedure . Step by step .

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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 2:21 PM[/b]

 "If I crash and burn I just hope that this will not turn everyone off to trying formats of tournaments other than what WGT restricts us to offer."
 That is exactly what will happen .
 
 

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[b]acetate wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 3:23 PM[/b]

If you had such reservations, why didn't you stop me? I don't want people to play one, hate it, and run away forever.

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[b]acetate wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 3:29 PM[/b]

As for Challonge.com nobody ever needs to register. You can use it strictly as a tournament tracking system. The person that creates the tournament can enter scores, move the tournament along and it will display results just as it would if everyone signed in and appeared at a given time.
All of what you just posted negates that option. When I commented that Paul may come through before me to show how to configure the alternate shot game for practice mode, I meant just that. How you can switch settings at the 1st tee.

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[b]acetate wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 3:31 PM[/b]

I have made things much, much worse for you. I'm sorry. That is the furthest from my intent.

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[b]acetate wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 3:35 PM[/b]

As I wrote before, if you see me doing something that you think is crazy stupid stop me. I do not know how to recover this tournament at this point.
 

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[b]acetate wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 3:38 PM[/b]

You need to toss me out of your club. I don't see any other way to negate this.
Right now all of them are thinking so this is what it is going to be like with Paul and Ace working together.
If you would rather I will resign. I'm sorry about this.

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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 3:42 PM[/b]

  No no no . Ace please . This is not a big deal . You made a hell of an effort . You are all good I promise you . Everyone will respect your efforts . I will see to that . nothing has changed . All good .  I promise man . Nice try though . It is them that are complacent and unwilling to put it out . =You have shown great determination . This task is almost un do able . Maybe impossible . Do not feel bad . 

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[b]acetate wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 3:49 PM[/b]

Whichever way you want me to go, I did enjoy being in your club and working with you.
I had no intent to give your club a black eye. I know how much you struggle to keep things running.
I learned a lot from you. Thank you for that. You have shown me more kindness in this month than everyone else together over this past year.
Just let me know how you want me to exit. I really am okay if you need to toss me. Just as I am if you would prefer I resign. Either way I would like to post a proper goodbye to the members before I am removed from its ranks.

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[b]acetate wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 3:49 PM[/b]

Thank you Paul. I am sorry that it had to end like this.

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[b]acetate wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 4:00 PM[/b]

And one last point, I will still tell everyone that I believe would make a good member to give VOTSCC a try. That they will not be disappointed. It will be easy to do as that is a fact. You have a great club.

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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 4:07 PM[/b]

  Yes I am so happy that you see that . It can be a biotch . And things can get sticky and rough . But I'm still standing . As you are as well . And you haven';t even got your feet wet yet . Lol .

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[b]pdb1 wrote
on 11 Nov 2015 at 4:08 PM[/b]

Right now all of them are thinking so this is what it is going to be like with Paul and Ace working together.
  They better not think that . I will tell them to go jump in the lake . Lol .
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    pdb1
    20,790 Posts
    Thu, Oct 1 2020 3:18 PM

    Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Icon-quote SaskGopher:
    Thank you sir. 

    You're quite welcome sir . Well deserved .



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    Tue, Oct 13 2020 8:59 AM

    I like it!



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    pdb1
    20,790 Posts
    Tue, Oct 13 2020 2:51 PM

    Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Icon-quote DaTurk:
    I like it!

      And I like this. Lol . Having a little fun are you ?
    October 13, 2020

    October 10, 2020
    • DaTurk made an eagle on hole #3 on PEBBLE BEACH GOLF LINKS.
    • DaTurk made an eagle on hole #2 on PEBBLE BEACH GOLF LINKS.
    • DaTurk made an eagle on hole #1 on PEBBLE BEACH GOLF LINKS.
    • DaTurk made an eagle on hole #4 on PEBBLE BEACH GOLF LINKS.
    • DaTurk made an ea
    • le on hole #2 on PEBBLE BEACH GOLF LINKS.

    October 09, 2020
    • DaTurk made an eagle on hole #4 on PEBBLE BEACH GOLF LINKS.
    • DaTurk made an eagle on hole #3 on PEBBLE BEACH GOLF LINKS.
    • DaTurk made an eagle on hole #2 on PEBBLE BEACH GOLF LINKS.
    • DaTurk made an eagle on hole #1 on PEBBLE BEACH GOLF LINKS.

    •   Very cool . Very impressive .

    11/16/2020 7:22 P.M.
      In response to Henry and DFMG .
    • ___________________
    • If what people are saying is true and all of my posts have been deleted . Then no one will see this edit .

    Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Icon-quote DuFussMcGoo:
    You have 16 players that PREDATE the opening! Wow!

    • Of the active players
    • tigerwee
    • and
    • MikeNJ
    • Are the only 2 active players ( per my criteria ) . That haven't received trophy's yet .
    • But in gathering the almost 500 active players . I viewed nearly 5000 profiles . I saw over 3000 players with pre 2010 start dates . Easily 1000 from 2007 . All but the ones I list plus tigerwee and MikeNJ are inactive .
    • Over 100 " TRAILBLAZERS " have 2007 start dates




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    phipster
    1,759 Posts
    Mon, Oct 19 2020 3:03 PM

    Another couple of players who have been on WGT a long time pdb1...
    https://www.wgt.com/players/vpc1sgt/default.aspx
    https://www.wgt.com/players/tholomew/default.aspx



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    HenryKawa
    1,301 Posts
    Mon, Nov 16 2020 2:35 PM

    I did some research on this a few years ago.  I didn't update the active vs. non-active for the complete list.  I limited my search on anyone who signed up before April 1, 2008.  I just found that after that date, there were HUNDREDS of sign-ups.  Before April 1, 2008, I could only find 44.   Here they are.    If I missed anyone, let me know.  Thanks.
         
    First WGT Members
    1Cuber May 24, 2007Left 2017
    2bonz May 2007Still Active
    3Srellim234 June 9, 2007Pops in and out
    4Thunderbird June 2007Still Active
    5Jdoggbowler June 2007left years ago
    6LBCGolf June 2007Left 2009
    7Tigerwee June 2007Still Active
    8Fuzzygazz June 2007Still Active
    9Theo June 2007Left 2015
    10Irishking1916 June 2007Still Active
    11Putter2eyes June 2007Still Active?
    122DWN June 2007Still Active
    13Jayew Aug 2007
    13dschom5   Sept 2007
    14Spozz1 Oct 2007
    15MikenJ Nov 2007
    16Pauls Dec 2007Still Active
    17Vabighack Jan 22, 2008Still Active
    18Kennyperry Jan 18, 2008Still Active
    19Tibbets Jan 2008
    20Sooner7 Jan 2008
    21Badaboom Jan 2008
    22Blackwood Jan 2008
    23Scottswgt Jan 2008
    24Vardon Jan 2008
    25Mike_Misza Jan 2008
    26Marioh Jan 2008
    27BobLarsen Jan 2008
    28Yuconn Jan 2008
    29Kmanfromga Jan 2008
    30Monzard Jan 2008
    31Xdrox Jan 2008
    32Tonyturbo78 Jan 2008
    33Colflanders Jan 2008
    34Hawkeye9 Jan 2008
    35Iowankid Jan 2008
    36Diego902 Jan 2008
    37Zippy-pivot Jan 2008
    38Claremoreblue Jan 2008
    39Bulfrog2004 Jan 2008
    40Portsd Feb 2008
    41TooLinit Feb 2008
    42Daturk March 2008
    43Fatdan March 2008
    44Caddie74 March 2008




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    Kenher01
    996 Posts
    Mon, Nov 16 2020 2:50 PM

    Missed one, 
                        Travis June 2007
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    giraldin
    3,458 Posts
    Mon, Nov 16 2020 3:01 PM

    TECHI13



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    DuFussMcGoo
    2,488 Posts
    Mon, Nov 16 2020 3:13 PM

    Back in 2007, WGT was just a demo site! Didn't really have official opening until October 2008.
    You have 16 players that PREDATE the opening! Wow!
    I see Tigerwee is still active but I can't find Bonzz as active.
    SUPER DISCOVERY JOB!



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    HenryKawa
    1,301 Posts
    Mon, Nov 16 2020 5:26 PM

    Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Icon-quote Kenher01:
    Missed one, 
                        Travis June 2007
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    Yes, I did miss Thunderbird.  And he is still very much active.  I added him to the list above and to my official Spreadsheet.  Thank you for that input.
    As for Travis, yes there was a Travis from June 2007 but I'm not sure he even played a single game.  There is no evidence that he did anything other than signing up.  But I will ad him to the list.  Thank you.



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    Cotton949
    376 Posts
    Tue, Nov 17 2020 7:11 AM

    Amazing work!
by Paul
on Thu 19 Nov 2020, 5:41 pm
 
Search in: TRAILBLAZERS
Topic: NOT TRYING TO FIND ALL OF THEM ( Is this WGT's oldest active player?)
Replies: 19
Views: 2134

BOUNCING BUDDHA IN THE DRINK

7/22/2013  St. Andrews #1
Buddha248 wants you to see this shot replay from World Golf Tour:
Watch this shot from World Golf Tour!
Click [size=12]here to watch the replay, or copy and paste this link into your browser: http://www.wgt.com/replay.aspx?ID=842688af-22e0-4709-9a0f-a20300f1a822[/size]

by Paul
on Sat 29 Aug 2020, 8:21 pm
 
Search in: KICK ASS REPLAY BLOOPERS (now all youtube videos)
Topic: BOUNCING BUDDHA IN THE DRINK
Replies: 0
Views: 952

How to spy on Facebook messenger chat using spy app

Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Messenger

In the era of innovations and social networks Facebook became one of the most popular places where people meet daily and even every second. Pretty much every person has thought at least once on how to spy on someone’s Facebook account. Any parent would love his kids to be safe on the internet, especially when your child is not sociable in real life and has problems at school. Any employer would love to know more about his employees, whether they waste their working time.
The only way to find out more about a person, whether it’s your child, beloved or employee, is to spy messages and personal activities in social networks. Once you decide monitoring someone’s Facebook profile, you will be aware of what’s going on in your surroundings.
There is a Facebook spy app of several types. You should sign up and choose a suitable package. And here you have a chance to spy Facebook accounts of anyone you are interested in.
Facebook profile spy system is totally invisible and be sure each of your activity is totally anonymous, so the person you track will never suspect that.


Spy Software Program



How to spy on someone’s Facebook account


Modern technologies allow hacking anyone’s phone or any other mobile device to learn about any secrets that could be hidden from you in a Facebook message, media file, call, email, chat etc.
Any Facebook messenger spy is the easiest way to find out the things you are interested in and it gives you access to:


  • All Facebook messages contents
  • Dates and time of any Facebook conversation or chat
  • The addressees of any conversation
  • Name of FB friends
  • Any media files received


One amazing advantage of such an app is that all the information you are interested in is saved in your personal account and you can access it whenever you want or can from any device.
The market offers several very good Facebook spy apps and you can download them from our site.
Be sure that such a Facebook spy tool will be helpful for anyone, while Facebook users send over 150,000 messages every other minute, and most of users post their confidential information, including personal photos, phones, addresses etc. Anyone who is concerned about his spouse’s, employees’ or kids’ activity would find it quite useful to have such software installed.

Tips and tricks to get more out of the social network


Can you imagine Facebook has features you couldn’t think of? Here is how you can get more out of using social networks:


  • Stop browsing through the emoji list, the text shortcuts will add a necessary emoji to your message. Simply type: poop: and that emoji will be added. The most popular ones have the following shortcuts: Shark (^^^), Middle Finger [[midfing]], Not Bad [[notbaad]], Horny 3:)
  • Unfriend someone and do not lose access to his or her account. Just unfollow that person instead of unfriend. You will not get any information from them on your wall anymore.
  • Facebook messenger has a hidden basketball game. Simply send your friend a basketball emoji and click the sport pictogram.
  • Settings > People > Message Requests > See Filtered Requests and here you have much more messages than you could ever expect.
  • Facebook has a poking people feature.
  • Settings > Notifications > Mobile allows you to turn off birthday notifications.
  • You can send Facebook updates over sms.
  • Settings > Security > Where You’re Logged In allows you to all the log-ins over last few months.
  • Choose someone to be legacy contact for your account in case something happens to you one day, so this person could control your account and delete it if necessary.



TOP 3 Phone Trackers to Hack Someones Facebook


If you want to know how to spy on Facebook messenger chat, here is TOP 3 tracking apps:


  • Appmia – a tracker giving you access to all the files and conversations of your kids or employees, including such data as its date and time, access to all Facebook messenger contacts, past messenger records, all the files exchanged, browse the information on your PC without internet.
  • FlexiSpy – one of the best Facebook trackers, it allows spying any electronic devices and monitoring any data on the targeted phone, is easy in use and pretty affordable.
  • mSpy – another top app, which allows tracking not only Facebook history, but also emails, calls, text messages and even satellite location. The app is compatible with any phone or mobile device and operational system. It is very popular among parents and spouses.
by Paul
on Thu 22 Feb 2018, 9:00 am
 
Search in: TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY TIPS FROM THE DOCTOR OF TECHNOLOGY AZDEWARS 143 TOPICS inside
Topic: How to spy on Facebook messenger chat using spy app
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Views: 1931

***The Andyson Memorial Matchplay 2017***in full color





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    BigKnight  Wed, Aug 23 2017 12:30 PM
    luck of the draw :(
    Best of luck to those in the bracket...remember why this tourney is happening, and cheers Paul for putting this on again Smile
    =bk=







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  • quadrock123   Wed, Aug 23 2017 1:29 PM
    Real quick... was this a random draw again?  Because i see one of my guys playing the bracket yet i scored better than he did. Looks like i'm done then. Thanks for the opportunity to play in the Andyson's Memorial.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        quadrock123






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    opyeuclid    Wed, Aug 23 2017 2:23 PM
    Please have FUN .
    OPY






  • Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Kavvz11




    kavvz    Wed, Aug 23 2017 3:39 PM
    @quadrock, yes it was random draw 







  • Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Lonnie10



    lonniescott71    Wed, Aug 23 2017 4:58 PM
    Well this should get pretty interesting .Good luck to all who are playing and have fun .







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    mrcaddieWed, Aug 23 2017 5:28 PM

     lonniescott711:
    Good luck to all who are playing and have fun .


    +1







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    Young46    Wed, Aug 23 2017 5:46 PM
    Wait, my name is missing .... damn. Well, I hope my luck is better for tonight's Powerball jackpot drawing! Good luck everyone, I see a few really good match-ups in the draw.



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      darek2    Wed, Aug 23 2017 6:39 PM
      for sure its a time to post 1 round , just i don't see
       my opponent  don't played  in 4 days , i hope he see my invite 
       to a rest hf all & gl , always pleasure  to see u all 
      darek Smile





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      mrcaddie     Wed, Aug 23 2017 7:33 PM

       Young46:
      I hope my luck is better for tonight's Powerball jackpot drawing!


      Sorry Young...we're gonna win the jackpot tonight.
      MC






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      pdb1     Wed, Aug 23 2017 8:37 PM
        WOO HOO !
       I Made it to the match play bracket for the 2nd year . As well as my CC mate DufferJohn 7 . Congrats and play well and have fun John . 
        That's enough of a jackpot for me . 
        Paul
      Here is the link for the challonge.com bracket .
      This is the same bracket embedded in VOTSCC . 





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      Bowl64        Thu, Aug 24 2017 12:53 AM
      Jolly good show to see my name in the draw, good luck everyone Smile)
       
      Bjorn





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      onekeano     
      [size=10][size=13][size=13]Thu, Aug 24 2017 5:16 AM[/size][/size][/size]

    •  PaulTon:

      Here it is, open for play -
       
       



      Hey paul whats the time limit on getting matches played
      I away from monday 28th till 4th 
      Dave
       






    • Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Beryma11



      Beryman        Thu, Aug 24 2017 5:42 AM

       onekeano:
      Hey paul whats the time limit on getting matches played


      he already covered that on page #1, post #2






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      bery111         Thu, Aug 24 2017 6:52 AM
      I'd just like to say good luck to all those taking part in the bracket! Looks like we'll have some great matches coming up.






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      kavvz      Thu, Aug 24 2017 7:11 AM
      Yes yes good luck to all.  Hit 'em good but most importantly have fun.






    • Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Mkg33510



      mkg335          Thu, Aug 24 2017 7:12 AM
      Good luck to all and thanks again to Paul and his crew, well done!





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      shovlovin         Thu, Aug 24 2017 8:15 AM
      First round of bracket completed group 18, Shovlovin v Doncaron; Shovlovin wins on the 8th with some very strange goings on by Aliens on poor Don, a very enjoyable game Proper Job







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    mkrizan86        
    Thu, Aug 24 2017 9:28 AM



  •  Young46:

    Wait, my name is missing .... damn. Well, I hope my luck is better for tonight's Powerball jackpot drawing! Good luck everyone, I see a few really good match-ups in the draw.



    Are you from Massachusetts? ;-)
     
    I'll thank my lucky stars to be in the draw again this year. Should be great fun.
     







  • Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Frappe10



    frappefort      Thu, Aug 24 2017 10:17 AM
    Hello Paul  and helpers , I will not be able to play the Match play  this time . I will be gone for about 2 to 3 weeks ,again sorry   and good luck all  .Denis is looking  from the big fairway up there .                   Francois (Frapp)







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    overtheedge       Thu, Aug 24 2017 10:46 AM

     mkrizan86:
    I'll thank my lucky stars to be in the draw again this year. Should be great fun.


    +1  
    My last MP round was last year in this same event. I don't play around much.WAIT! That I came out the wrong way. 
    I  meant--->   

by Paul
on Fri 01 Sep 2017, 3:25 pm
 
Search in: 2017 ANDYSON MEMORIAL TOURNAMENT
Topic: ***The Andyson Memorial Matchplay 2017***in full color
Replies: 18
Views: 2129

**2nd Andyson Memorial - SIGN UP ROUND 1 & ROUND 2 & MATCHPLAY 2017** FULL TOURNAMENT ART AND PLAYERS . SIGN UP STROKE ,MATCHPLAY

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PaulTon
10,634 Posts
[size=13][size=13]Wed, Aug 9 2017 3:45 PM[/size][/size]

Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Andysonmemorial
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[size=25]18 holes strokeplay at Pebble Beach


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 10-17th August 2017



Set a ranked round and post your scores in this thread.



Do not use CC or WGT competitions!




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    YancyCan
    2,661 Posts
    [size=13]Wed, Aug 9 2017 11:21 PM[/size]


    2017 AndySon Memorial Tournament - 1st Round Leaders & More 
    Video #1 of #5 -- Rest Will Be Here Tomorrow
    Let your humble host - I am Yancy - take you thru the 1st round leaders of the 2017 AndySon Memorial Tournament as well as mention their are videos of the prizes, player interviews, Skype video calls & discussion of the "Chirp Chirp Burp Burp Challenge"








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    LLLlloyd88
    10 Posts
    [size=13]Thu, Aug 10 2017 9:05 AM[/size]


    Love the recap video Yancy! Glad I stumbled upon the tournament sign up thread, I can see I've been missing out on a lot of fun. I have a lot of catching up to do.
    No real exciting story behind the 5 L's, been using that for various user names on different sites for years. The first try at a user name would be Lloyd, that was taken so I'd try LLloyd. Got all the way up to LLLlloyd and it was still taken (maybe by myself from the early years when I used to play on my lunch hour at work as a hack). I think it finally worked for me when I added the 88. See, I told it wasn't very exciting.
    LLLloyd (note the 3 capitol L's)
     





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    YancyCan
    2,661 Posts
    [size=13]Thu, Aug 10 2017 12:19 PM[/size]


    For your halfway entertainment --- Its the AndySon Dance Squad
    Originally published & made by AndySon on July 11th 2012
    Found it as an "UNLISTED" video -- and the link had a "C" within it therefore could not publish in the WGT forums (aka Alien interferenceables)







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    YancyCan
    2,661 Posts
    [size=13]Thu, Aug 10 2017 12:29 PM[/size]


    AndySon titled this "Dance Troop 2" --- Cannot help a feller but wonder what be in that first dance troop video? 

    LET THE GIVEAWAYS BEGIN:
     
    First person to post the WGT nicks or real names of ALL the AndySon Dancers will win the all-beta - no cords or battery needed mobile golf game -- picture coming ASAPS

    This will not be an easy one -- Prove me wrong people

    Good Luck, I am Yancy
    @TeamYancy

    .



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      YancyCan
      2,661 Posts
      [size=13]Thu, Aug 10 2017 7:41 PM[/size]


      2017 AndySon Memorial Golf Tournament Give-Aways/Prizes

      Check out the prizes & give-aways from the 2nd Annual AndySon golf tournament. These are unconventional prizes for an event like this, as we are giving away "physical" items & sending them to your doorstep!
      Make sure you watch thru this one --- there is a bump about some suprisable prizes/give-aways that well-known WGT player Mr.Caddie is currently ankles deep-into (allegedly)
      These are given away Yancy style (less the overall low-score winner) which means they will be given out for unusuables stats or whatnot, or even on the fly (watch the forum post for give-aways).
      So --- if your in this tournament, you got the same chance as all to win some most excellent stuff and such.
      Good Luck -- My name is Yancy
      @TeamYancy




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        PaulTon
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        I forgot to post this years participation medal. Last year I posted them on everyones wall individually, I don't have time to do that this year. So, here it is -

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        Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Andysonmedal2017



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          bery111
          2,796 Posts
          [size=13]Fri, Aug 11 2017 6:07 AM[/size]


          Mid-round2 interlude with a prehistoric blast from the past:








by Paul
on Thu 17 Aug 2017, 9:25 pm
 
Search in: 2017 ANDYSON MEMORIAL TOURNAMENT
Topic: **2nd Andyson Memorial - SIGN UP ROUND 1 & ROUND 2 & MATCHPLAY 2017** FULL TOURNAMENT ART AND PLAYERS . SIGN UP STROKE ,MATCHPLAY
Replies: 16
Views: 3553

Basic Formulas for all shots on WGT,

 COURTESY OF PRO ZONE COUNTRY CLUB 





http://www.dropzonecc.com/articles/basic-formulas-for-all-shots-on-wgt



Basic Formulas for all shots on WGT



UPDATED: 9-1-16


   There have been many changes on WGT lately and with all of the upper tier brackets players I play against daily, they share in the same misgivings that I have.  Even using correct mathematical equations for shots, sometimes the are long and sometimes they are short.  Wind that doesn’t have an effect on the ball, or not enough effect can drive you crazy.  I also have become friends with the gophers in the hole by rimming shots on my putts all the time.


   It’s almost enough to drive you away from playing the money grabber WGT platform, but needless to say, it’s still the best online golf experience available.  Remember the clubs and balls that I use will be different than yours so practice and minor changes to the formulas will be up to you to determine.


   I use the following equipment:


  • Driver: Big Bertha – Distance = 287
  • 3 Wood: Big Bertha – Distance = 245
  • Irons: Taylor Made R11 – Distance = 120 – 225 (Same club as Taylor Made RSi2 Level 90)
  • Wedge: Cleveland 56W Level 76 – Distance = 100
  • Wedge: Cleveland 60W Level 78 – Distance = 80
  • Wedge: Cleveland 64W Level 80 – Distance = 60
  • Putter: Odyssey Versa #1 Level 70
  • Ball: Nike Level 71 and Volvik Crystal Level 51 (both play virtually the same)


   I’ve always known that it’s important to understand your clubs and the distance that they hit.  A perfect example is that when I make a drive off the T-Box I know with the wind conditions approximately the distance before I will bounce.  This knowledge allows me to manage the course and not let the course manage me.  The second thing that I have been toying with and have been successful with is using spin on the ball to hit a little farther.

   An example of using spin on the ball.  My formulas are set with a full backspin (I normally use 90% with my balls).  I come up with a shot of 124 on distance to hit.  I’m comfortable within around a 7 yard range so instead of trying to hit 124 with full back on my 135 club, I hit my 120 club with no spin.  If the shot was 127 I would still hit my 120 club but use about 90% topspin.  Of course doing this takes some additional practice, but I have hit my 225 3 iron on distances of 240 with top and landed right next to the hole when the wind was with me.  Don’t allow the distance of the club to be your guide, instead learn what the club can do.
The following is a list of different formulas that I use on WGT.  Remember that different players have different shots that they use, but I will try to include a few of them that I know of.  Now all balls and clubs have a different amount of roll and distance that they hit.  Because of that I include an “Unknown” variable into the equation.

How to work the Unknown variable:


Maybe the formula doesn’t seem to work because you go long or short on the shots.  Don’t pay attention to it on just one hole, but if it is happening on a consistent basis then add or subtract the unknown variable into the formula.  A perfect example of this would be when I play on Merion or Pebble Beach.  I know that I want to hit under the hole but I see that I’m rolling a couple of yards past the hole leaving me a downhill putt.  I place a negative 2 (-2) into the variable so that I will land at the pin or right below it.

Variables




  • D = Distance – total distance to pin.  Look at top right corner for full distance
  • H = Height – Up divide by 1/2 || Down divide by 1/3
  • R = Rough – will give figures bellow
  • S = Sand – will give figures bellow
  • W = Wind – divide by 1/2
  • U = Unknown



Rough


figures for full swing (please note that some courses may require a little extra):
A tip for everyone…. Cleveland clubs rip through rough.  My suggestion is to only use half the largest number when adding.  An example would be in 30-40% to only add 2 or 3 to the swing.


  • 10-15% = +2
  • 20-25% = +5
  • 30-40% = +10
  • 40-50% = +20
  • Anything above 40-50% you are better off with a punch shot to get back to the fairway.



Full Shot Equation:


D (+/-) H (+/-) W (+) R (+/-) U =
Example:  Distance is 115 (+/-) Height is -24 ft. (+/-) Wind is 12 in my face (+/-) Rough is 0 (fairway) (+/-) Unknown is 5.


  • Notice that height is down 24 divided by 3 = -8
  • wind in my face is 12 divided by 2 = 6
  • Unknown is 5 = +5
  • Total distance that I would swing is: 118



Sand Trap Equation:


figures differ from user to user.  99% of the time I punch from a bunker but some use other types of shots.  I’ve even pitched from the sand trap before and did pretty well with it.

Punch from Sand


Note: If you are too far away from the green in the sand most of the time a punch will not get there.  In this case use a full swing with the equations I gave you for rough.  Be sure to add 1/2 the distance of up to the equation and see how it works for you.  Remember that coming out of sand will have a bounce and a roll out.  Getting on the green is however the most important factor even if you are left with a long putt.


  • Wind on a pitch shot is measured 1 for every 10 MPH.
  • Depth of sand figures into the equation.  See chart bellow.
  • Always use full back spin coming out of a bunker.  It will roll, and normally more than you would expect.
  • The Unknown variable may help you here, but I would say with this equation I may roll past the hole a little but normally I stop right before it.
  • You may need to use your putter to help you line up the roll to the hole, I do and it has improved my bunker shots.
  • If it is a drastic downhill then subtract an extra 5 for the unexpected roll out.


 
Punch figures for sand:


  • 10-20% = +3
  • 30-40% = +6
  • 40-50% = +8
  • 60-70% = +11


D (+/-) H (+/-) W (+/-) S (+/-) U =
 

Flop Figures for sand:




  • 10-20% = +2
  • 30-40% = +4


Flopping out of sand heavier than 30-40% is not advised.  Remember that flopping out of sand will not be in the air long so make sure you are not a long distance from the pin.  The ball will roll out quite a bit be sure to aim for the additional break on the green.  The additional 2 I added to the flop bellow you may not need.
D +2 (+/-) H (+/-) W (+/-) S (+/-) U =

Full swing figures for sand:


A lot of people use full swing from the sand, but I don’t unless I’m in a bunker and hitting back to the fairway.  These figures bellow are rough estimates, and I will update them again as I start to test using full swing from bunkers.


  • 10-20% = 5
  • 30-40% = +10
  • 40-50% = +20
  • 60-70% = +35


D (+/-) H (+/-) W (+/-) S (+/-) U =

Full Shot Equation:


D (+/-) H (+/-) W (+) R (+/-) U =
Example:  Distance is 115 (+/-) Height is -24 ft. (+/-) Wind is 12 in my face (+/-) Rough is 0 (fairway) (+/-) Unknown is 5.


  • Notice that height is down 24 divided by 3 = -8
  • wind in my face is 12 divided by 2 = 6
  • Unknown is 5 = +5
  • Total distance that I would swing is: 118



Punch Equation:


This depends much on distance.  When I say that it means that there is the long shot which 99% of the time has full top spin that you aim for the fairway for the bounce and a great roll to get you in range for a nice approach shot or putt.  I normally use a 4 iron or 3 wood punch for this purpose, unless of course I might be hitting too far, but that’s what it normally boils down to.  The best example that I can give is landing in 40-50% off the drive.  Use your mini map on the right to help you ensure that you are going down the fairway because you will not get much height on a punch like this.  Your shot is mostly going to be bouncing and rolling all the way up the fairway.  For long distance punch shots use the rough calculations I gave you above.  Here is a perfect example for you.  Hole 1 Bethpage your drive lands in 40-50% rough and your distance to hole is 120 yards.  Punch that shot with half to 3/4 top spin 140 making sure the flight path has no obstacles in the way only fairway.  Your shot should be pretty close but you may find that more or less on the top spin may be in order to be more accurate.  Once again remember that equipment being used and different balls will react different.
Punch Shots within 84 yards.  Remember I use Cleveland wedges so there may be some variations using different clubs.


  • Wind on a punch shot is measured 1 for every 10 MPH.
  • The rough is added by taking the larger of the 2 numbers.  (40-50% would be adding 5).
  • I have high level clubs so I usually don’t use backspin except on smaller numbers.  If I use backspin I add extra to the shot.
  • I started adding the extra to the shot the same as you might using the unknown variable because I was coming up a little short.


Backspin on punch for me (Please note that these numbers may not work for you this is my unknown variable for a punch):


  • If the distance is under 30 I add 5 to the shot and use full back spin.
  • If the distance is between 30 and 40 I add 4 to the shot and use full back spin.


D (+/-) H (+/-) W (+/-) R  (+/-) U =

Pitch Shot Equation:




  • Wind on a pitch shot is measured 1 for every 10 MPH.
  • Ignore the rough on a pitch shot it rarely if ever comes into play.
  • If you use back spin add 1 to the shot (Your clubs and balls may be different use the unknown variable here).
  • Expect the roll out especially if the down is in feet and not inches.
  • Use your putter to aim for the break (Normally a pitch is in the air longer so only look at the last couple of feet before the hole).
  • It does take a little practice to get good with the pitch shot, but once you have it down you find that you will sink more with a pitch than you will a flop.
  • For every 12 inches (1 foot) down subtract 1 from the shot.
  • If you are using a larger club for the pitch shot and pitching a 20 subtract 2, there will be more roll out with the larger club.
  • Long distance pitches with top spin are great if you learn the measurements.  Normally a subtraction of 5 or 6 from the total with 1/2 to 3/4 top has made me some great eagles.


D (+/-) H (+/-) W (+/-) U =

Flop Shot Equation:




  • Most of the time you can ignore the up because the ball goes up before it hits.  However, you may find on certain holes if you are coming up a little short to use a second unknown variable just for that hole.
  • Wind = 1 for every 10 MPH.
  • You may have roll out but always use full backspin on a flop shot.  They are suppose to stop, although occasionally they will roll.
  • Some people play the first line on the meter bar for the shot, I however do not find that reliable.  I use reverse view and move a box for every 10 yards.
  • If you have cross wind for every 10 MPH that is considered one box of movement.  As you move the box to the left (right in reverse view) for the slice look at the wind.  There are times I don’t move it at all and there are times when a 20 yard flop I have to move out 4 boxes because of the wind.
  • Rough is added as you do with the punch shot.  Add the larger number (30-40% = +4)
  • Add an additional 1 for every 3 foot up the shot is.


D (+/-) W (+) R (+/-)  U (+/-) U (this second unknown is 2 for me) =

Chip Shot Equation:




  • Wind rarely comes into play with such a short shot.  I never chip anything farther than  7 yards.
  • Chips pop up and down quick.  Make sure that you are within a foot of the green or you will land in the rough again.
  • Aim with your putter for the break.  Remember a chip rolls a lot farther than a pitch does so aim like you would a putt.
  • Normally I hit a chip with 100% backspin to slow it down.
  • I normally subtract 1 from the distance and more if it is down.
  • Do not make chip shots your best friend, they are not reliable shots.
  • If the chip is going uphill do not subtract 1 and hit it even instead of using back spin.
  • I will only add the unknown variable in case you are still rolling out to far.


D -1 (+/-) H (+/-) U =

Conclusion:


Practice with this information and I have included a notepad document of this text for you to download.  Practice with the equations and make any changes you may need to fit your equipment and balls.  I hope this information is helpful to all of the players on WGT.  Like I said at the beginning of this article, these are the basics of the formulas I use on WGT and I think that all new members will benefit from the use of it.  When you get higher level clubs you will find that a lot of your shots will change, and you may even find that you do not need the Unknown variable as I rarely use it.
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ROYAL TIPS FROM THE MISTRESSCOSETTE

   THE THEORY OF PARALLEL LINES IN PUTTING THE BREAK
The Theory of Parallel Lines that I have also come up with involves looking at the grids from both angles when you putt. Trying to simplify it is very hard. All of it involves the dot flow across the grid to figure break. This is not complete yet, but it seems to work well. As time progresses I will come up with hard numbers to go by, so be patient as you read and try this. It will REALLY improve your putting once you get the distance control down.
I've had an easy time figuring distance as my putting stats have improved due to almost perfect distance control. A few weeks ago, I started leaving tons of 20-30-40 foot putts on the lips for 2-3 inch tap-ins. I knew I was very close in the overall idea of the total package in putting but there was that little part of the overall formula that was missing. It involved the cross-flow of the break.


   I found that a 5-second flow across the grid translated to a mean average of double what one of the looks showed in T-12 greens. Many times one look was a perfect straight shot, and the other look might be half a grid, 3/4 of a grid or whatever. I started using that 5-second dot flow and doubling the grid amount of aim to coincide with the look from one end. However, the speed of the green has a tremendous effect on break. The faster the green, the more the dots affect the putt. This makes perfect sense because a "fluffy" green that putts slowly will not affect the ball the way a "pool table" green that is very slick will. Most of my recent experimentation has been done on T-12 tournament greens and the math of it is very close.  I have also recently found that a 5-second flow on T-12 greens translates to an aiming point of exactly twice one of the looks and on T-13 greens, it's a 6-second flow for twice one of the looks.


   For instance, a half-grid with a 5-6 second flow (I don't time it exactly, I just do 'one-thousand one, one-thousand two, one-thousand three, etc. to estimate the seconds it takes) would translate to doubling the aim. So, that half-grid would translate to a full grid of break. However, uphill putts don't break like downhill putts, and this also has to be taken into consideration.
Uphill putts have to fight gravity, and the impetus you put on a putt changes the amount of break, cutting it down some on uphill putts. I found that most of the time, an uphill putt will break either the exact amount on one figured look or the other with a 5-6 second flow, and downhill putts will break twice as much as figured with a 5-second flow. Also, the shorter the putt, the less chance it has to break, and from 5 feet in, where I have been having the most trouble, I have to either add a bit or subtract a bit to make the putt hit dead-center.
The danger comes in on those short putts from 3-5 feet where you have a serious flow like 4 seconds or less and you want to overcome that break by adding a few percent to the putt. If  you miss, it goes WAY by and now you are faced with a testy par or even hairy bogey putt.


   I have never been a proponent of going past the hole much, as I like to feather putts from all distances so if I miss, I end up with a tap-in. Some blogs tell you that it's better to go past than to be short, ascribing to the Tom Watson theory of "never up, never in." I agree with that, but ramming or giving a bit too much to overcome break won't help your putting stats or your scores.
I've had a recent breakthrough on this and my scores have come way down, my standings in the recent WGT and club tournaments have been much higher, and I'm starting to drain more putts from distance because of the "forgiveness" that WGT builds in to each putter. The MAX Meter Master putter has a lot of forgiveness, and the increments of 10, 20, 30, 40 on shorter putts allows me to add or subtract parts of percents to putt like I have radar, sonar, and GPS. I used to be very satisfied with 14-15 putts on a nine-hole course, and now I am regularly putting at 11-13 putts for a 9-hole round.


   That Theory of Parallel Lines involves looking at the parallel lines when shifting your aimer and many times the line of the flag-stick will end up parallel with your aimer, and at other times it will end up parallel with the one grid outside the flag. This, combined with the 5-6 second rule has made tons of putts from every distance drop for me. It's given me a feel that any putt I step up to I KNOW what the break is even before I look at both the normal and reverse looks. It's become absolutely deadly for me. As a general rule, the slower the greens the less the ball will take the break and I've found that the parallel lines you look at will be a big aid in gauging how much you aim left or right. Rule of Thumb The faster the green, the more break it will take and the slower the green the less break it will take. You'll develop feel with this theory, bet on it.
However, there is no perfect mathematical formula for it yet, but it works. I'm working on a true formula that can be taken to the bank every time. BUT, I'm leaving all my putts from everywhere super-close when I miss or mishit, and a much higher percentage are dropping even when I mishit due to that forgiveness built into the putter.


   Try what I've put out in this message and see if it works. I KNOW it's spot-on, I just can't explain it perfectly. However, that 5-second flow is the one I'm concentrating on with T-12 greens, and a faster flow of 4, and 3 seconds seems to translate into 3 times and 4 times the look from one end. You'll see what I mean when you try it. It's amazing. T-13 greens putt to the numbers distance-wise and a 6-second flow for double the aim, and I can't wait to putt them on a regular basis at the Tour Legend tier. Hey...you drive for show and putt for dough. I don't know who said that, but it's so true in regular golf and it's in the program of WGT. Safe putting translates into lower scores, and ramming putts is crazy. Sure, the little short ones and ramming is already covered in my blog, but I am adamant that this Theory of Parallel lines works. 


   PUTTING EXAMPLES
#1. Distance: 26 ft.  Elevation: 4 inches UP   Green speed: Very fast green (10)  Wind: 15 mph in your face (from the "North")  Dot flow:  toward you 5 seconds average in the last 2 grids.
Step 1. Add 26 + 4 = 30 (new adjusted distance)
Step 2. Multiply 30 x .9 = 27 feet (new adjusted distance for green speed)
Step 3. Multiply 27 x 93.3% = 25.191 (new adjusted distance for 'touch' factor)
Step 4. Divide  25.191/30 = 83.97% (percentage for 30-foot swing meter) [PUT THIS IN THE MEMORY OF YOUR CALCULATOR]
Step 5. Divide 4/26 = .153846 then multiply this by 10. This is the elevation ratio percentage of add to your shot. It is 1.53846%
Step 6. Add the 1.53846 to your calculator memory. 83.97 + 1.53846 = 85.508461%
Step 7. Multiply the wind factor of .1 x 15 = 1.5% (wind percentage add)
Step 8. Add 1.5% to the total calculation. 85.508461% + 1.5% = 87.008461%
Step 9. Divide dot flow of 5 second by 3 (30-foot swing meter division) 5/3 = 1.666%
Step 10. Add the dot flow to the overall shot. 87.008461% + 1.666% = 88.6474461% (final pull-back for swing meter)
Step 11. Aim
Step 12. Ding the meter.
 
   Example #2  Distance: 15 ft.  Elevation drop: 3 in.  Green speed: Tournament 12 (12)  Wind speed: 8 mph at 45 degrees from the "Northwest" (against you from the left in your face) Dot flow in the last 2 grids: 8 seconds.
Step 1. Subtract 15 - 3 = 12 (new distance)
Step 2. Multiply 12 x .75 = 9 (new adjusted distance for green speed)
Step 3. Multiply 9 x 1.00 = 9 (new adjusted distance for 'touch' factor)
Step 4. Divide 9 by your swing meter. This will vary on putters, so be careful here. My putter has a 10-foot swing meter, and some putters have a lowest swing meter of 15, so the percentage will now vary. I recommend getting a putter with a 10-foot swing meter, because it makes the calculations much easier. However, I used a Ghost Spider putter that had a 15-foot swing meter for the longest time until I got sick of doing ODD calculations, so your putter choice will come into play. For THIS example, I will use MY MAX Meter Control Master Putter. It's FAR easier because it has increments of 10, 20, 30, 40, 60, 80, 100, 200, and 300, which makes for nice even-number calculations. Again..it's YOUR choice on your putter, and whatever floats your boat is fine, but make SURE you divide the new adjusted distance by your swing meter to get the proper percentage.   9/10 = 90% (swing meter pull-back) {STORE THIS IN YOUR CALCULATOR MEMORY}
Step 5. 3/15 = .2 then multiply by 10. .2 x 10 = 2%
Step 5 Take 90% and subtract 2%   90% - 2% = 88% (new adjusted percentage for elevation ratio drop)
Step 6. Multiply wind factor of 8 x .1 = .8
Step 7. Multiply wind angle factor of .707 (sine of 45 degrees) .707 x .8 = .5656%
Step 8. Add .5656% + 88% = 88.5656%
Step 9. Subtract dot flow. 8 seconds is 2%, so 88.5656% - 2% = 86.5656%
Step 10. Aim
Step 11. Ding the meter.


   I do all of this in less than 25 - 35 seconds on average, and you can too. Of course, I'm experienced, but once you get the hang of it, you'll fly your fingers over the calculator like it's nothing. The numbers will become so familiar, that you'll know exactly which swing meter to select even before you start your calculations. It's not that hard. It SEEMS hard...so is walking...at first.
by Paul
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ROYAL TIPS FROM THE MISTRESSCOSETTE

   'This blog is published to "help" you, and while I am not Kwai Chang Caine, I know it work 


   Example #1.   175 yds.   15 ft. UP elevation   Ocean course. Wind in your face (dead from the 'north') at 15 mph.


   15/175 = 0.08571 (elevation ratio) is 8.571%
15/2 = 7.5 (half the elevation)
7.5 - 8.571% = 6.8571 (true elevation)
175 + 6.8571 = 181.8571 yds. (distance plus true elevation)
15 mph x 75% = 11.25 yds add (ocean course...over 150 yd. shot) [wind multiple is 1.00...no change for angle]
181.8571 + 11.25 = 193.1071 yds. (new adjusted shot for wind)
193.1071 + 4.4% = 201.6038 yds  (addition for club angle add for 200-yd. 4-iron)
201.6038/206 = 0.97865 or 97.865%  (swing meter pull-back and adjusted ball distance add of 3% for my Callaway HEX 33+ Soft balls) [this will vary with the type of ball you use]
97.865% + 1.5% = 99.3% (precision adjustment for swing meter for most clubs) [starters will have no adjustment]


   Yes...NINE calculations for a full back-spin shot....BUT...you stick the ball within a yard provided you aim at the pin and ding the meter. (My recommendation is to PULL THE PIN so you don't whack it and end up 20 yards from the hole...lol...trust me)
This calculation can be done with practice in about 45-50 seconds. It takes a few extra seconds if the wind is at some other angle. Now, if you are in an Alternate Shot game, you have 45 seconds to aim and shoot if you have a 90-second shot timer. If you are by yourself, you have all day to make the calculation correctly.


   Example #2.  145 yds. 15 ft. DROP  Wind 14 mph from the "southeast" (or 45 degrees over your shoulder from the right)
15/3 = 5 yds. (drop calculation)
145 - 5 = 140 yds. (true shot calculation distance)
14/2 = 7 mph for wind
7 x.707 = 4.949 (true wind push)
140 - 4.949 = 135.051 yds, (true shot minus true wind)
135.051 + 5% = 141.803 yds. (club angle add for 8-iron full backspin shot)
141.803/144.2 = 0.98338 or 98.3338% (division for swing meter using Callaway HEX Chrome 33+ Soft balls...this will vary for the type of ball you use) [normal 8-iron shot for me is rated at 140 and I have to add 3% for the ball type]
98.3338% + 1.5% = 99.838% (swing meter precision error for club set)


   Aim right using the blue line and line it up...most times the blue line will help in adjusting for wind push ....DON'T AIM AT THE PIN...LOL. The blue line is there to help you AIM. The blue line (or red when you extend it) is usually the exact amount you need to adjust for wind push. I have used it effectively in tons of cases and when I ding the meter, I have to actually have the pin pulled so I don't smack the pin.
by Paul
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ROYAL TIPS FROM THE MISTRESSCOSETTE

   6. USING THE RIGHT CLUB AND SWING METER  Once you have figured out distance, elevation, and wind, you will come up with a number. From THAT point, you will divide that number by the maximum of the swing meter on a certain club and decide to either put full spin on it or not in order to create a "full" shot (as close to 100% as you can) with whatever club you have chosen.


   6 A. BEING IN BETWEEN CLUBS
HOWEVER, many times you are caught "between" clubs, and you have to choose which is more beneficial for a "miss." You won't "ding" the meter every time, and you need to think, "Do I want to come up short or long on a miss?" The other consideration is trying to make it so you hit anywhere between 95-100% on a full shot, ESPECIALLY with longer irons from the 8-iron to the 3-wood. Shots with shorter irons and wedges can take "partial" shots down to around 75% and still be accurate on a mishit. Shots that are around the 75% number to 90% on longer irons willPENALIZE you radically on a mishit, so the prudent thing to do is figure out how close to a "full" shot (95-100%) you can make with those clubs. Picking the right club is not the one that is always suggested by the "caddie" and I've fired many of them over the months, but I've realized many times when in rough or with goofy wind, the "caddie" errs on the side of caution. However, the calculations I gave you for the sine of the angles is solid, and the programmers HAD to use them to design the game to work properly and mirror real golf. Now, with the same math they used in the program, the distance is no longer a mystery...it's an exact number, and you will wow your friends and enemies with it. 


   The "go for it" golf that people try to play on here costs them more strokes than they can imagine, and until you get a feel for wind, elevation, rough, and distance, "working" the ball is futile. Having said all that, just know that ultimately YOU are your own caddie, and making the decision to go with spin or no spin will affect the distance and "bite" of the ball. When you don't put spin on a long iron, it will fly a bit lower, be affected by the wind less, bounce less steeply, and roll farther. Sometimes, that's exactly what you want, but other times, you have to clear a bunker or rough near the green, and you have to fly the ball a bit farther to make it to the flag or just short of it. This will require either full spin or partial spin to counteract all the forces working on the ball and still hit a "full" shot (100%) to make the ball control much better. All shots are different, but you'll get a feel from practice. Use starter balls in practice so you don't "burn out" a good store-bought ball with "-2" (twice the wear for mulligans) on each practice shot. The only way to get good at controlling the ball with all the factors involved is to get really good at using starter balls, and THEN you will see how well the good ones respond. Plus, you should always note from course to course just how far your ball flies before it lands for each club on each shot. Eventually, you will get a feel for how far your ball is flying, and the numbers for each club will become almost automatic, ESPECIALLY ON THE LONG IRONS, WOODS, AND DRIVER. Knowing THOSE numbers will keep you out of a lot of trouble, and you will golf mostly from the fairways and hit your greens with greater accuracy. Your misses won't hurt as much..


   Using different balls will affect your play. Personally, I use Callaway Hex Chrome 33's which have a distance factor of 3 and a spin factor of 3.5. . I have a few sleeves of Nikes that people gifted to me but I save them, since the distance, meter speeds, and spin rates are all much higher, and I have to actually WAIT for the meter to get to that certain point on my swing meter, and it throws my mental timing off when I hit a shot. PLUS, they are hideously expensive, and at 500-800 credits per sleeve, you drop more than $2 each time you lose one. That's not in my budget. A lot of the "big hitters" and "sharpies" use the Nikes, and because I understand how to work the ball. I KNOW most of the time on the first hole whether or not my opponent knows how to USE his clubs and balls properly by the type of shot he or she hits. THEN I determine how "safe" I have to play to beat them. Sure, I run up against some "razors" that have all the equipment and the talent and knowledge to work the ball, so I break my own rule and play "go for it" golf against them and let the chips fall where they may.


   7. SPIN OR NO-SPIN  Putting full spin on a ball will need about 5% more impetus on your Shot Pal than figured,but I have included the specific percentage addition factors for each club in previous paragraphs. The spin actually throws the ball a bit higher and SHORTER, so you have to compensate for that. My 8-iron is rated at 140 yards, and my Callaway Hex Chrome 33's have a distance rating of 3, and this adds 3% to every shot I take with it, even down to the 60% range. So, I have to figure a full shot with the 140 club (8-iron) will go 144.2 yards, and I have to take that into account when I am shooting. If the shot calls for 139 yards, I may add the 5% of 139, thus making the shot 145.95 yards, and a full-spin shot may come up 2-4 yards short. Every ONE yard of misfigure usually translates to TWO yards difference when it lands on the green. this is something to seriously consider when shooting. However, if I am between yardages like that, sometimes putting half-spin or 3/4 spin on a shot will get it to go the correct distance, and a slight mishit either way just lands the ball a yard or two left or right. If you saw some of the "darts" I've been throwing, you would know how well I have learned to work the ball with the math I have provided. I used to load replays of shots each day but it is tedious now since I stick so many close to the hole ever day, but if you have nothing better to do, look at what the math does for me. Yes, some of the shots are older, but unless I make a double-eagle or hole in one, what's the point? LOL


   Rule of thumb for spin and no-spin shots is ADD 5% to your final calculation when using full spin, and allow for about 5% bounce and roll with no spin. Those numbers should get you hitting balls close to the pin and making more birdies. Also, when hitting shots with store-bought balls, you have to consider the distance rating and SUBTRACT that many percent from your final shot. I know that my 4-iron of 200 yards will go 206 with my Hex Chrome 33's because their distance rating is 3% more, so when I want to hit a shot of 195 yards, I have to divide 195 by 200, which is 97.5%, and then subtract 3% on the meter down to 94.5%, and it usually produces a perfect shot. I don't like to go below 95% most of the time on a shot, but sometimes the conditions dictate that I do. On shots like that, I either put a small bit of spin and hope I've made my calculations as accurately as possible. I made it easy for myself by making a macro and micro-putting chart, and on that chart on the side, I have the full distances of EACH of my clubs paired with my Hex Chromes written in the margin and it's quite easy to divide by THOSE new numbers instead of guessing. For the most part, THE MORE YOU GUESS, THE WORSE THE RESULT if you mishit. Don't do that to yourself now that you are armed with accurate math.


   8. AIMING   Once you have figured all the distance, spin, wind, and bounce and roll, you'll be able to create different types of shots for different situations and the only thing left is aiming and dinging the meter. MOST of the time, one of the "looks" from the green approach or behind the green will have a blue line that you will line up with a little white dot (which is actually your ball...of course, if your ball is black or some other color, it will be hard to spot) between your figure and the ball. If you look VERY closely, you will see it on all drives and fairway shots from the reverse angle. Lining up the blue line with THAT colored-dot will be accurate for a safe shot most of the time and many times be the EXACT compensation you need to make the perfect shot. I've discovered that they give you all the tools to figure out each shot perfectly, and once in a while, it's half or double the amount of aim difference OR on the wrong side of the hole when figuring indicated wind push, but for the most part, it's quite accurate for the "safe" shot to the right part of the green or fairway. The same is true on putting when you aim. ALWAYS look at the aimer fromboth angles, and you'll find that it's usually the average of the two looks or the exact aim from one look if you feather a putt, and the exact aim when you ram a putt. (more on aiming putts later) Sometimes it's the addition of both, so you have to judge for yourself when the camera angle isn't right. 


   9. DINGING THE METER   
THE KWAI CHANG CAINE EFFECT OF DINGING THE METER
Recently, I have been dinging the meter much more often than before. Another "aha moment" came to me as I was golfing and struggling at times to get my timing right. The biggest factor in getting your timing down is to match your entire set of golf clubs from driver to putter with the EXACT SAME METER SPEED. Only then will good timing come more naturally. However, even though my club set was  matched for an awfully long time, I still had trouble being at or near the ding UNTIL I started doing hyper-accurate math on my shot and putting calculations. Many times I would get ready to play a tournament that had Championship green speeds, and I knew I had to be accurate on my drives and approach shots in order to be closer to the hole to give myself a chance to putt the greens well.


   So, I set about doing my math as accurately as my little $4 calculator and two handwritten homemade charts would allow me, and aiming as perfectly as possible to allow the meter to adjust to my shot timing. It always seemed that the meter would try to compensate for an inaccurate calculation and this threw a lot of shots off that I thought I had calculated correctly. It was almost like the meter became the "Kwai Chang Caine" character in the old television series, "Kung Fu." The meter, much like Caine, would have a mind of its own and say to you, "I must HELP you." I remember how annoyed the people in that series used to get when Caine "helped" them in ways they didn't really like at first, and eventually they saw the error of their own ways when Caine fixed things for them. Well, the meter is just like Caine.
The meter actually tries to compensate for inaccurate math, improper spin, wrong club selection, and lousy aim. Every one of those factors is taken into account by the computer when you click on it to drag it back to the precise point of release. If you violate any one of those factors, the meter will do its best to speed up or slow down to affect the shot and not only throw your timing off, but many times throw your golf ball in places you don't want it to go. Call me crazy, but it works.


   Lately, from doing hyper-accurate math and not guessing or golfing by feel, the meter has been MUCH more cooperative, and my timing in dinging the meter or being slightly (a frog's hair) early or late without much damage to my shots or putts. The accuracy of being at or near the ding has gone from 40% or so to more than 80% of the time and even when I am a bit more than a "frog's hair" off, the shots are close enough to make the next shot easy or much more manageable.  That's a significant improvement. You'll see what I mean once you go from guessing on shots to using the math to help your game. This blog is published to "help" you, and while I am not Kwai Chang Caine, I know it works.


   Example #1.   175 yds.   15 ft. UP elevation   Ocean course. Wind in your face (dead from the 'north') at 15 mph.
by Paul
on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 5:18 pm
 
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3 Search Sites That Don't Track You Like Google

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Sat, Jul 23 2016 10:38 PM


You are probably thinking whats azdewars babbling about now. I'm talking about privacy. Each time you type something into the search field, Google is recording you. It stores all of the search terms you type, and then uses them to try and think more like you in the future. Plus, there's even a feature called Google Timeline that uses GPS to map out your every move. Click here to see how it works - it's scary!
By recording your search history, reading your Gmail emails, and tracking your location, Google is able to make its services more useful to you by knowing what you want to see. And, in most cases, it's great. It saves you time by bringing you the best search results as quickly as possible. The only major drawback is the lack of privacy.
Sure, there are ways to wipe your search history and get a fresh start. But that's not enough if you really want to protect your privacy. So, here are three perfectly good, and perfectly private Web browsers for an incognito search approach.
My #1 favorite is  DuckDuckGo, you never have to worry about targeted ads. This search engine will not track or target your IP address or search history. And, because it does not track your history and personalize your search experience you actually end up getting more results.
 
DuckDuckGo also has nifty tricks and features like a calculator, unit converter and even a custom interface with search shortcuts and Instant Answers. You can also make DuckDuckGo an extension of your browser and activate more privacy settings to better protect your anonymity.
My #2 favorite is Ixquick. It claims to be the world's most private browser. It also goes by the name StartPage.com - you might have heard of it.
 
It doesn't record your IP address, browser information, or search history, so you are safe from the prying eyes of advertisers. You can even search via proxy, so sites can't detect your real IP address (similar to Tor without the hassle of setting it up).
Searching through the proxy option may slow down your searches, but it also makes you invisible. A slower speed sounds pretty manageable when you're concerned about your privacy.
Ixquick also prevents filter bubbles, so you can get all of the search results you are looking for. An added bonus, it has a star system so you can rate the accuracy of your search.
Unfortunately, cutting down your use of Google doesn't mean your information is not being tracked.
And #3 is  Yippy . Sure you can't protect your kids and grandkids from everything. But you can protect them from inappropriate content popping up during web searches. And that's where Yippy really shines.
This search engine was designed to automatically detect and block adult content. That means you no longer have to worry about pornography, gambling sites, sex product sites and other websites popping up while you're browsing the Internet.
When it comes to privacy, Yippy has you covered on that front as well. While it may collect anonymous information about your computer, as long as you're in the United States it won't collect any personal information such as your name, address or phone number.
If you're not in the U.S., Yippy claims that you are subject to tracking, but only so it can comply with government protocols.
 
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by Paul
on Sun 24 Jul 2016, 5:11 am
 
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Eleven Windows 10 problems - and how to fix them

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Thu, Mar 17 2016 11:51 AM


Here are my top 11 questions from friends dealing with Windows 10 and my feedback:

1 - Can't upgrade from Windows 7 or Windows 8

We could write a book about the problems people report with the upgrade to Windows 10. From the Get Windows 10 (or GWX) app reporting that perfectly viable computers aren't compatible, through the app never appearing in the first place, to stalled and failed downloads. If you've got a PC still stubbornly clinging to Windows 7 or Windows 8, there are a few things to try:

  1. Open Control Panel, run Windows Update and ensure that the PC is fully up to date. If updates fail, run the Windows Update Troubleshooter (see below, number 3)
  2. Use the Media Creation Tool. Don't rely on GWX: visithttps://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10, click Download tool now, save the tool and run it on the PC you want to upgrade. If this didn't work for you back when Windows 10 launched, try it again now - the tool has been improved.
  3. Make sure that hardware Disable Execution Prevention (DEP) is switched on in the BIOS, referring to your motherboard manual for help if you need it. If you still have problems, use the Start Menu to search for 'performance', run Adjust the appearance and performance of Windows, click the Data Execution Prevention tab and turn DEP on for all programs and services, then reboot and try again.
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2 - Can't upgrade to the latest Windows 10 version

Windows 10 got a significant update (the Windows 10 Fall update) in November, but many computers have failed to install it automatically. From the Start Menu, type 'winver' and hit Enter. The latest build number is 10586.XX: if you're still on 10240 you've missed out.
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You can try troubleshooting Windows Update (see below), but in our experience, it's best to use the Media Creation Tool. Download it and use it to upgrade the PC. Note that you'll see a 'Ready to install' screen that, worryingly, doesn't mention anything about an update: this is correct, just check that the installer is about to install the correct Windows 10 version (Home or Pro) and that it's set to keep personal file and apps, then click Install - your data, apps and (almost) all of your settings will remain untouched.
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3 - Windows Update isn't working

Many people have reported issues with Windows Update in Windows 10. Check first that you've upgraded to the Windows 10 Fall update (see above, number 2). If you're still getting problems, download and run the Windows Update Troubleshooter, then reboot and try to update again.
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If the problems remain, you might need to get a bit more stuck in. First, check that System Restore is configured (see below, number 7) and create a restore point. With this done, use Win+x and select Command Prompt (Admin), then type 'net stop wuauserv' (without the quotes) and hit Enter, followed by 'net stop bits' and Enter. You should see confirmations that each service was either stopped or wasn't running. Next, open Explorer, navigate to C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution, and delete its contents including any sub-folders. Now reboot, open Windows Update and click Check for updates.

4 - Turn off forced updates

If you're anything like us, you set up previous Windows releases so that they wouldn't install updates automatically - one forced reboot is one too many. To be fair to Microsoft, Windows 10 handles post-update reboots much more elegantly, but we'd still rather be in control from the outset.
There is a workaround for users running Windows 10 Pro: from the Start Menu, search for 'gpedit' and run the Group Policy Editor. Expand Computer Configuration in the left-hand pane, and navigate to Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Windows Update. Double-click Configure Automatic Updates in the list, select the Enabled radio button, and in the left-hand box select 2 - Notify for download and notify for install. Now click OK, and you'll be notified whenever there are updates - unfortunately, they'll be a daily irritation if you're using Windows Defender.
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The Group Policy Editor isn't available on Windows 10 Home, but we'd recommend you at least open Windows Update, click Advanced options and select Notify to schedule restart from the Choose how updates are installed list. While you're here, all Windows 10 users might want to click Choose how updates are delivered, and ensure that Updates from more than one place is either off, or set to PCs on my local network.
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5 - Fix privacy and data defaults

We're not a fan of some of the data-sharing defaults in Windows 10, and we'd recommend all users review them periodically. Use the Start Menu to search for and run the Settings app, then click Privacy. In the left-hand pane you'll see many areas where your computer might be sharing data. It's worth spending time checking that you're comfortable with allowing apps to use your computer's camera, microphone, account information and so on, and where you are, checking that no surprise apps appear in the lists. Note, too, that the default Feedback & diagnostics setting is to send enhanced data to Microsoft.
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If you use Windows Defender, click the back arrow and select Update & Security, then Windows Defender. Check that you're happy with the default behaviour, which is to enable Cloud-based detection and Automatic sample submission.
Many people are uncomfortable with the idea of Wi-Fi Sense, which is designed to get you onto wireless networks more quickly. On a device with Wi-Fi, click the back arrow, select Network & Internet, click WiFi and select Manage WiFi Settings. We'd strongly recommend turning off Connect to suggested open hotspots, Connect to networks shared by my contacts, and disabling the button under Paid WiFi services if it's present.
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Additionally, Wi-Fi Sense might result in the sharing of your network's wireless credentials among devices you don't control: allow a guest to log in and their contacts - and potentially theirs in turn - may also be able to. Ridiculously, the only fix is to rename your network's SSID so that it ends with "_optout". We'd recommend confining guests to a guest wireless network, configuring your own devices not to use Wi-Fi Sense, and asking staff to do the same before allowing their Windows 10 devices onto the main wireless network.

6 - Where's Safe Mode when you need it?

Nothing gets you out of Windows trouble like Safe Mode, which is why it's inexplicable that you can no longer enter it by pressing F8 or Shift+F8 at boot. Although it's still available in Windows 10, you have to boot into Windows first, then either restart holding the left Shift key or via an option within Update & Security in the Settings app. Neither method is helpful if your PC can't boot into Windows in the first place. 
You can't get around this, which is why it's helpful to create a boot time Safe Mode option before trouble arrives. Hit Win+x and select Command Prompt (Admin), then type bcdedit /copy {current} /d "Windows 10 Safe Mode" and hit Enter. From the Start Menu type msconfig, run System Configuration in the results, and navigate to the Boot tab. Highlight the Windows 10 Safe Mode option you just created, tick Safe boot and select Minimal under Boot options and - if necessary - reduce the Timeout value so you won't be inconvenienced - the minimum is three seconds. Tick Make all boot settings permanent (in fact you can simply return here to delete the Safe Mode entry) and click OK.
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You can repeat these steps, substituting suitable names in quotes at the Command Prompt, to create shortcuts for Safe Mode with Networking (tick Network rather than Minimal in System Configuration) and Safe Mode with Command Prompt (Alternate shell).
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7 - Enable System Restore

Another inexplicable choice in Windows 10 is that System Restore isn't enabled by default; we wouldn't hesitate to turn it on. Search for 'Create a restore point' in the Start Menu and select it in the results, then highlight the system drive, click the Configure button and select Turn on system protection. Use the slider to set an appropriate amount of maximum disk space - about 5GB ought to be enough. Note that, annoyingly, the upgrade to Windows 10 version 10586 turns this off again - you'll need to turn it back on.
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8 - Bad localisation, Cortana 'not available'

Windows 10's localisation options seem needlessly convoluted, and we've had multiple reports of incorrect localisation even in computers that were upgraded from correctly localised Windows 7 or Windows 8 installations. The most common issue seems to be dates in the American format MM/DD/YY, but Windows can also report that Cortana isn't available, even in regions where it is.
From the Start Menu, search for region and choose Region & language settings. Check that United Kingdom is selected under Country or region, and check that your chosen language(s) appear under Languages. Select your primary language, click Options and click Download under the language pack, and speech options if they're present. Check on this page that the keyboard is also correct - if it isn't, add the correct one then select the wrong one and remove it.
 
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Click the back arrow and select Additional date, time & regional settings. Under Language, click Change input methods, select your chosen language, move it to the top of the list if it isn't there already, and click Options. Under Windows display language you might see either Enabled or Available - if the latter, click Make this the primary language. If you don't see either, download and install the language pack, then make it the primary language.
Click the back arrow to return to the language preferences, and in the left-hand pane click Change date, time, or number formats and check that the format is set to the correct language. Check the Home location on the Location tab, and finally use the Administrative tab to check the System locale, and use the Copy settings button to apply the settings to the Welcome screen and new user accounts.

9 - Fix slow boot times

Like Windows 8 before it, Windows 10 uses a hybrid boot to enable fast boot times. When you shut the system down, apps and app processes are terminated, but the Windows kernel itself is hibernated to allow for a faster restart. In theory it's great, but it seems to still be very slow for some Windows 10 users.
Disable it by searching for Power Options in the Start Menu and running the matching Control Panel applet, then in the left-hand pane click Choose what the power buttons do. Click Change settings that are currently unavailable, scroll down and un-tick Turn on fast start-up, then click Save changes. This should prevent very slow starts on affected PCs. Some users report that if they subsequently reboot, re-trace their steps and re-enable fast start-up the problem remains cured.
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If you're dual-booting between Windows 10 and Windows 7, switching fast start-up off will also fix the problem where Windows 7 checks the disks each time you boot it: With fast start-up enabled, the earlier operating system doesn't recognise that the disks have been properly shut down by Windows 10.

10 - The lock screen gets in the way

Return to a locked Windows 10 device and you'll see a pretty picture. That's nice, but it's a needless obstacle in the way of logging in. If you're as impatient as we are, disable the lock screen by searching the Start Menu for regedit, and running the Registry editor.
Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows. If you don't already see a key named 'Personalization', select the Windows key, right-click it, choose New>Key and rename this new key to Personalization (sic). Right-click the Personalization key, choose New again then select DWORD (32-bit) Value. Select New Value #1 in the right-hand pane and use F2 to rename it NoLockScreen, then double-click it, change the value data to 1 and click OK. After a reboot, the lock screen will be gone.

11 - I can't play a DVD!

Windows 10 shipped without an app to play DVDs on. Which is not great if you like to watch movies on your PC. 
Luckily, Microsoft has released an app as a download. Trouble is it costs £11.59. It also has garnered an overall rating of just two stars. Alternatively, you can download VLC, which is free and works just as well if not better.
I trust these "fixes" help someone that is having one of the above issues. If you're having one not list, feel free to send me message of your issue and I will help.
Respectfully,
John - azdewars[/size]
by Paul
on Thu 21 Jul 2016, 6:41 am
 
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IN THE BEGINNING




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    WGTniv
    1,788 Posts
    Tue, Jun 8 2010 3:40 PM


    Wow, you guys have made this so amazingly more complicated than it is.  Let me see what I can do to simplify this...
    The game is pretty simple.  Precision controls your accuracy.  Imagine it's like a circle that surrounds the flagstick when you aim at it.  The size of that circle is related to the precision rating.  The higher the rating the smaller the circle.  Your ball can land anywhere in the circle on a dinged shot (left or right, long or short).  It will ALWAYS land in the circle on a ding shot, though sometimes it may land in the center of the circle and sometimes it may land on the very outer edge or anywhere in between those two points.  When it lands on the outer edge this is what you guys have come to know as "the beast".  Was the shot pre-programmed? Does it know you're standing on the 17th hole at Kiawah?  No, it's just unfortunate timing.  The result you see is the logical spread dictated by the precision rating of the club over 100 or 1,000 or 10,000 shots taken on the site.  No matter how big or small the sample it's amazingly consistent because it is after all only a simple mathematical formula.  The shot data is spread out amongst all users, so there will be times when you run into a lot of "edge cases" (aka deviations, aka outside edge of the precision circle) and times where you seemingly can't miss the center (even when you mishit).  This is the ebb and flow of the game and it's always been there.  In the short term you will have "bad" days and "good" days.  In the long term (providing they are using the same clubs) any one player will see the same amount of "edge cases" or "deviations" that the rest of the players do.
    And that's all there is to it!  The other theories can be put to bed.  There's no behind the scenes tweaking, no changing club attributes based on skill and no hidden mechanism that knows when you're on a water hole.  It's just a formula that runs exactly the same for every single shot and it has no idea (nor does it care) where you are on the course.  It doesn't matter if it's the first tee shot on #1 or the winning 10-foot putt in the USGA Virtual Championship.  The formula runs the exact same calculation every single time and you're always at risk for an "edge case".  How far away an "edge case" can take you depends solely on your precision rating for that club.  The higher the precision rating (and conversely the more lofted the iron) the less "edge cases" will take you away from where you aimed. 
    Course releases have ZERO affect on your clubs. When a course is released it's just assets, hole maps, minimaps, HD photos and stuff that has absolutely no affect on your clubs.  Us adding a JPG picture file (or 100,000 of them) does not change the way your approach shot on Kiawah #2 interacts with the green.  Each course has it's own settings and each course comes with it's own set of "surfaces".   If you go into Oakmont expecting your clubs to interact the same way they do on Kiawah then you've already made your first mistake.  Every course has it's own nuances right down to how the ball is affected by elevation and break and you'll have to figure that out with practice.  While adjusting to those nuances you may forget the nuances you learned on the older courses and get stuck in between your adjustments.  That happens to me too.  A new course comes out and suddenly I can't make a putt on Kiawah because I've spent so much time learning how to play the new breaks on Oakmont.  As a result I end up over-playing breaks on everything for a short time while I adjust.
    Hope that clears some of this confusion up.  You fellas certainly come up with some wild ideas, but it's no where near as complicated or convoluted as some of you seem to think it is.  Remember, keep it simple because it really is simple. =)

by Paul
on Mon 04 Jul 2016, 9:41 am
 
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SOMEBODY ASKED , HOW DO I CLICK ON THE SUNDAY EVENT ?

 Okay . First you must distinguish to me which forum and which event you are referring . We have two forums . 
  #1 our WGT CC Forum . http://www.wgt.com/clubs/valley_of_the_sun_casual_club/forum/default.aspx
  This is our one and only forum of importance and our only focus . It is here that it is required to try and keep currrent with announcements , and details about anything that happens regarding our CC . Period . I also ask that members make a periodic post in this forum . ( you obviously won't have a problem with that ) . But it is a very big problem . You will soon read why as i continue . I also ask that members reply to and welcome recruits and full members in this forum when these are posted . The above and playing CC tourneys ( which is the main focus of any CC )  . And friending members . And registering in the website . Is what I ask to be in this CC . 
  Sounds simple doesn't it ? Anything but . Creating and developing a successful CC in WGT is not an easy task . In fact it is nearly impossible . By my definition of successful . 
  Which is everyone doing the above listed conditions . I have been doing this for 2 years . I have had to remove almost 250 non playing and non responding members to get to what we have today . 
  A little over a year ago I created a website . This site is in no way affiliated with WGT and WGT has no idea or connection to it's existence . I created it with the idea that WGT members and our CC members would have an alternative site with many features not available in WGT . To go to and access everything and anything with a simple click ..
  For the use and enjoyment of all . But mainly as VOTSCC's free for all to use website . Slowly incorporating its many awesome forum features into VOTSCC's go to place for chat , tutorials , information , replays , hall of fames , matches and whatever else this well made , user friendly , has everything that wgt doesn't  , open to all to join whether or not you belong to VOTSCC are welcome to use the free chat room ( as wgt does not provide this ) for anything you may desire .
  Well things didn't work out quite like I thought . I ran tournaments every Saturday and Sunday for months . I posted current events happening throughout WGT . And filled the website with tons of information Golf related and non golf related . 
  But I could not get anyone to go to the website . As with all the stuff regarding the CC . I only wanted it to be a voluntary effort from anyone . I never would expect to demand or require or make anyone do any of the things I thought were going to be easy and a no brainer . 
  So that was the end of my hopes and aspirations for what i originally intended . And the website sits today . With absolutely zero activity . None . So you will not find anty current eventa there . It is a ghost town . Myself and a handful of members post our daily BLITZ scores there . And that is the only activity it ever sees . If you look on the website homepage on the right side column . You will see " WHO IS ONLINE ?"
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  That shows 3 . Very unusual for 3 to be on at the same time . 
  This is why the below is the only thing required regarding the website .
 
  Register in our website / forum . Please use your WGT username . This is a one time deal and is neccessary for my recording of members stats , records , scores , etc . Nothing else will be asked from you in the website after you register . You may or may not utilize it's cool stuff as you wish .
  So because of the zero activity here . We have plenty to do in ths CC . The WGT CC . We have all kinds of tiered tourneys . A stroke play and a CTTH bracket going at all times . And a daily BLITZ Monday through Friday . There are no weekend events . So I can retain what is left of my sanity .
  Paul
by Paul
on Tue 10 Nov 2015, 6:58 pm
 
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Topic: SOMEBODY ASKED , HOW DO I CLICK ON THE SUNDAY EVENT ?
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RAN ACROSS THIS , VERY DIFFERENT TOURNEY FORMAT

Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Hakman10

 hakman123:
The 3rd challenge was to get closest to the hole on St. Andrews #1 - bouncing the ball over the Burn (water).


  Too bad I missed that one I still have 3 of those on replay . And I made the eagle putt two of those times . The replays are above in either The Hall or Best of .
by Paul
on Mon 02 Nov 2015, 3:53 pm
 
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Topic: RAN ACROSS THIS , VERY DIFFERENT TOURNEY FORMAT
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Views: 1749

CC TOURNEY WINNERS FOR OCTOBER 2015

31 Oct
dschom5 came in first place in Oakmont F9 Test of Skills

31 Oct
NoFuneral came in first place in Kiawah - Front 9, Back 9 & All 18.

31 Oct
CoryGRobinson came in first place in Tierless Bracket 9H Free.

30 Oct
kekanaranjo came in first place in No Seeum Flag

29 Oct
CoryGRobinson came in first place in Tierless Bracket 9H Free

29 Oct
Bluedademon came in first place in Olympic Club F9 / B9 L - TC (Go Low!!!!!).

29 Oct
CoryGRobinson came in first place in Olympic Club F9 / B9 H - TM (Go Low!!!!!)

29 Oct
coryGRobinson came in first place in 18H Tierless Bracket Tournament

28 Oct
fravel came in first place in Bracket Tounament #43 (Stroke Play) Info

27 Oct
dmavity came in first place in CTTH Bracket # 25.

27 Oct
clucktrentsuperd came in first place in Putt For Dough 3

26 Oct
robmurphy4 came in first place in BANDON PAR 3 ..1 HIT

25 Oct
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in Beginners Equipment #1 revisited. SEE FORUM For RU

25 Oct
CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18H Tierless Bracket Tournament

25 Oct
CoryGRobinson came in first place in Tierless Bracket 9H Free

24 Oct
dschom5 came in first place in Arnies Fall Tour No 6.

24 Oct
dschom5 came in first place in Arnies'Fall Tour No 5 Merion

23 Oct
kekanaranjo came in first place in VOTSCC Bracket # 42.

23 Oct
kekanaranjo came in first place in VOTSCC Bracket # 42.

22 Oct
nitramgoht came in first place in MAKE A MARK

22 Oct
CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18H Tierless Bracket Tournament.

22 Oct
CoryGRobinson came in first place in Tierless Bracket 9H Free

22 Oct
kekanaranjo came in first place in CTTH Bracket # 24

22 Oct
Skip380 came in first place in Chamber's Bay Open F9 (GO LOW!!!!!!)

21 Oct
dschom5 came in first place in PAR 4'S F9 ONLY (EASY SETUP) L - TC.

21 Oct
Buddha248 came in first place in PAR 4'S F9 ONLY (EASY SETUP) H - TM.

19 Oct
harry4364 came in first place in Tour Pro Brackets 9H Free.

18 Oct
nitramgoht came in first place in PREMIUM BRACKET 500 CREDIT PURSE.

18 Oct
CoryGRobinson came in first place in Tierless Bracket 9H Free

18 Oct
dschom5 came in first place in Famous Front

18 Oct
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in Arnie's Fall Tour No 4 Best of Hardest.

18 Oct
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in Arnie's Fall Tour No 3 Pinehurst No 2

17 Oct
CoryGRobinson came in first place in Tour Master Bracket 9H Free.

17 Oct
dschom5 came in first place in Merion B9 Easy L - TC (Go Low).

17 Oct
CoryGRobinson came in first place in Merion B9 Easy H - TM (Go Low).

17 Oct
nitramgoht came in first place in CTTH Bracket # 23.

16 Oct
KellyGreer came in first place in St. Andrews & Kiawah.

16 Oct
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in BO Par 4 L - TC F9 / B9 Tier Up.

16 Oct
NoFuneral came in first place in Best of Par 5's F9 / B9 All Play

15 Oct
oryGRobinson came in first place in Wk 40 9-Hole Single Play.

15 Oct
CoryGRobinson came in first place in Wk 40 9-Hole Single Play.

15 Oct
CoryGRobinson came in first place in Wk 40 9-Hole Single Play

14 Oct
Buddha248 came in first place in BO Par 4 H - TM F9 / B9 Tier Up

14 Oct
pdb1 came in first place in PUTT FOR DOUGH.

14 Oct
NoFuneral came in first place in Beth & Andy front & back

13 Oct
CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18H Tierless Bracket Tournament

13 Oct
CoryGRobinson came in first place in Tierless Bracket 9H Free

13 Oct
CoryGRobinson came in first place in Tierless Chambers Bay Bracket 9H Free

12 Oct
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in VOTSCC Bracket # 40

12 Oct
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in VOTSCC Bracket # 40

12 Oct
CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18H Tierless Bracket Tournament.

12 Oct
Bertasion came in first place in October at the Oak.

12 Oct
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in CTTH # 22

11 Oct
Smok3y22 came in first place in St A's for Hacks to Tour Master Only.

11 Oct
dschom5 came in first place in BPB Random Tees

10 Oct
harry4364 came in first place in Tierless Bracket 9H Free

10 Oct
dschom5 came in first place in Arnie's Fall Tour No 2 Best of Bandon.

10 Oct
NoFuneral came in first place in Arnie's Fall Tour Round 1 Chambers Bay

09 Oct
Kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in ISLE OF GREEN.

09 Oct
dschom5 came in first place in FAME

08 Oct
Skip380 came in first place in VOTSCC Bracket# 39.

07 Oct
Robmurphy4 came in first place in CTTH Brandon Putt, Putt, Putt (All Play).

07 Oct
paulleftypaul came in first place in Congress is in Session (B9) L - TC.

07 Oct
Buddha248 came in first place in Congress is in Session (B9) H - TM

04 Oct
NoFuneral came in first place in Chambers Maid F9 / B9 Upper.

04 Oct
wishman51 came in first place in Chambers Maid F9 / B9 Lower

04 Oct
dschom5 came in first place in Summer Olympics B9 "Go Low"

04 Oct
kekanaranjo came in first place in VOTSCC Bracket # 38

03 Oct
nitramgoht came in first place in CTTH Bracket # 20.

03 Oct
dschom5 came in first place in Maid Merion 18 Hole Championship.

03 Oct
Skip380 came in first place in Arnie's Last of Summer Wine No 6 Best of Par 5.

03 Oct
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in Arnie's Last of Summer Wine No 5 Bethpage

01 Oct
kishoph came in first place in Rooters Battle Of The Harbour.
by Paul
on Sun 01 Nov 2015, 2:46 am
 
Search in: VOTSCC CC EVENTS & TOURNAMENTS (archives)
Topic: CC TOURNEY WINNERS FOR OCTOBER 2015
Replies: 1
Views: 1871

RAN ACROSS THIS , VERY DIFFERENT TOURNEY FORMAT


  • Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Pdb1d17

    pdb1
    5,998 Posts
    07-30-2015 9:53 PM


     Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Hakman10
    [/quote]
     hakman123:
    You must enter using a single play of Kiawah 7 from the WGT COMMUNITY \ GOLF COURSES menu, the default conditions are low wind & standard green speed (7.9) . Do not set up other events to tailor conditions and green speed.     


     
      Did not even know these courses ( above ) existed . I will check them out . Learn this stuff and hope to enter in the future .

    Kiawah No. 7.      Longest shot from the sand.
    Entries are invited into three categories, with the winner achieving the challenge from a starting point furthest from the flag. So to be clear - the winner in category 2 will not be the closest to the hole - but will be the longest shot posted with a result 12 inches or closer (without it being in the hole - as that then becomes an entry in category 1).

    1. In the hole:              3 sleeves longest shot - 1 sleeve each 2nd & 3rd.
    2. 12 inches or less:    2 sleeves longest shot - 1 sleeve each 2nd & 3rd.
    3. 3 ft or less:              1 sleeve each for 1st, 2nd & 3rd.

     Am I right ? This is the description for this 1 event ?
      Below are the rules for this 1 event .
    Rules:

    1. To enter you must post a replay AND a screenshot of the ball position on the green (unless you hole out, and then just the replay is required). Also to make it easier for me (so I do not have to keep opening and viewing the replays and advertising over and over) please note in your post both the Shot Distance and how close to the hole you got (eg.  167 yds / 9 inches) as well as your preference for balls.
    2. The starting position of the ball must be in sand - no closer than 1 ft from the nearest edge of the sand hazard (because the replay is glitchy and is not showing the correct starting lies - we do not want anyone to be questioning if the ball is actually in the sand if it is very close to rough or fairway border).
    3. The challenge will be live for a little over 1 week and will close at midnight PST on Sunday 2nd August.
    4. Ties (same shot distance) will be broken in Category 1 - winner will be the first to post the winning distance. Ties will be broken in Categories 2 & 3 by closest to the hole - in the unlikely event that is also tied - the winner will be the first to post.
    5. Enter as many times as you like - but a player can only win 1 prize. If a player has entries that are in positions to win more than 1 prize then only 1 entry will be awarded a prize, that entry will be in order of precedence taken as

      1. Winning entry of longest hole-out  (3 sleeves)
      2. Winning entry of longest shot inside 1 ft   (2 sleeves)
      3. place winner in hole-out   (1 sleeve)
      4. place winner inside 1 ft    (1 sleeve)
      5. place winner inside 3 ft    (1 sleeve)              

      and other entries will be removed making room for other players to win a prize.
    6. No restriction on balls used.
    7. Equipment restricted to irons & wedges - no hybrids etc...
    8. You must enter using a single play of Kiawah 7 from the WGT COMMUNITY \ GOLF COURSES menu, the default conditions are low wind & standard green speed (7.9) . Do not set up other events to tailor conditions and green speed.   

      I am being serious , I find this very cool and just want to learn what I need to to possibly enjoy this competition ( event ) also . In the future .  

     
     
     



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    hakman123
    1,251 Posts
    07-31-2015 10:52 AM


    Yes pdb1 - you seem to have it.
    This challenge is all about getting close or in the hole - from as far away as possible - and from sand. Playing this challenge we get to practice shots from sand as well as doing something a bit different on WGT.
    This is the 4th community challenge.
    1 and 2 were "Longest putt" challenges. Both on Chambers Bay holes. To win on the 2nd challenge required putting from well off the green (about 70 yds off the green in fact).
    The 3rd challenge was to get closest to the hole on St. Andrews #1 - bouncing the ball over the Burn (water).
    I look around the courses for interesting shots, trick shots and then present them here as community challenges. The rules simply ensure we are all playing the same challenge under the same conditions with the same chance of success.
    The Hakman







  • Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Pdb1d17

    pdb1

    5,951 Posts
    07-23-2015 12:10 AM


    4th Community Challenge - A Fun Day at the Beach
      HAVE NO IDEA WTF THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THOUGH .



  • Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Pdb1d17

    pdb1

    5,951 Posts
    07-30-2015 9:31 PM


    Re: 4th Community Challenge - A Fun Day at the Beach
       These are so cool . Definitely a few steps above what we are used to .
      This competition is divided into several different parts . For instance one of them , for the CTTH you maneuver the ball into the sand somewhere , and then take your shot , you screen shot your ball placement and the replay of it's final resting spot . Just to name one . Someday I am going to try these competitions . They are wild .



  • Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Jimq9165

    JimQ916

    1,283 Posts
    07-31-2015 7:12 AM


    This sounds interesting but complicated (although I think every thing is complicated). I'd be interested in giving it a go if it ever comes about. This sounds like a format that would need some what of a lot of participation from the members though...Jim




  • Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Pdb1d17

    pdb1

    5,951 Posts
    07-31-2015 8:15 AM



     JimQ916:
    This sounds like a format that would need some what of a lot of participation from the members though...Jim


     If you click on it . You will see it is all set up by other WGT members . With guidelines and rules , and protocol . You would enter yourself and that alone would be hard enough . I am going to try and learn it and try it myself .



  • Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Jimq9165

    JimQ916

    1,283 Posts
    07-31-2015 8:50 AM


    I only read the 1st page of the post.....let me know what you find out,,,,Hell, a full WGT member tournament would be fukin huge



  • Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Pdb1d17

    pdb1

    5,951 Posts
    07-31-2015 2:45 PM


    This was the 4th one . They had quite a few submittals .















by Paul
on Fri 30 Oct 2015, 10:18 pm
 
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Topic: RAN ACROSS THIS , VERY DIFFERENT TOURNEY FORMAT
Replies: 3
Views: 1749

FIRST PUTTER

Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Pedrit14
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pedrito96

57 Posts
09-12-2015 11:23 PM


What putter do you recomend me the ping aswer that is 450 credit or the spider that is 400 credit i dont know what putter to get in a future
 



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kishoph

198 Posts
09-13-2015 4:42 AM


For what you can purchase because of your level, I think the spider is a pretty good putter. I used it for a while and  never had any complaints. In fact I wished I didn't "upgrade" when I did, because I putted terrible with my 2nd putter. I recently purchased my 3rd (Odyssey Tank K2) and have been very happy with it.
I have some nerve damage in my right hand and it's hard for me to continuously get the ping on the meter, so I look for something with a lot of forgiveness and the Spider has that. Also I always look at the reviews on the clubs and the Spider has some very good ones. Also you can compare clubs, or rent them to try out.  I hope this helped.
Good luck with whichever one you chose.
Gene



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Smok3y22

62 Posts
09-13-2015 8:44 AM


I use spider putter i have no complaints noticed a difference straight away 




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pdb1

5,558 Posts
09-13-2015 9:21 AM


  My input isn't going to help you much Pedrito . Because the  

Odyssey Tank Cruiser V-Line Putter (L13+)




  is 995 credits

Odyssey Versa #7 Putter (L22+)




1,495 Credits

Odyssey Versa #1 Black Putter (L33+)




1,795 Credits
at your level .
  I have rented , purchased and tried on free weekends almost every putter . And yes they are as different as night and day . The increments , the meter speed , the forgiveness , the precision all make them unique . 

PING Anser 2 Putter (L28+)




450 Credits
or the

PING Anser 2 Putter (L44+)




700 Credits

Extra precision and a slower WGT swing meter . Are what I recommend . I started with the PING REDWOODS . Which look like have been replaced by the ANSER series . 

  I hope they have a free rental weekend soon so you can try some of the putters out . 
  Good luck Pedrito .
 
  personally I chose PING's all the way up . Mainly because of the cost being lower . But after seeing that I was playing better than my piers that had spent the money on the TaylorMades . I went with all Ping's all the way . Even my G20 280 yd. driver out drove every other 282 yd driver . By the time I got my first

Callaway Big Bertha 10.5° Driver (Fubuki shaft) (L88+)




  I had a 294 yd. average with my G20 280 yd PING .
  I now have the

Callaway Big Bertha Alpha 9.0 Driver (Fubuki shaft) (L96+)




  and just hit the 299 yd. ave mark last week .




[*]Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Jimq9194

JimQ916

1,134 Posts
09-13-2015 10:08 AM


I use the spider puter...great putter



[*]Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Apdb1d26

pdb1

5,558 Posts
09-13-2015 10:14 AM



 kishoph:
I think the spider is a pretty good putter.



 Smok3y22:

I use spider putter i have no complaints noticed a difference straight away 




 JimQ916:

I use the spider puter...great putter



  By popular consensus . It looks like the Spider is the way to go Pedrito .




[*]Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Pedrit14

pedrito96

57 Posts
09-13-2015 10:42 AM


Yes the spider seems like the first option to go so im going to buy next thanks for the reviews to everyone it helped me a lot



[*]Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Apdb1d26

pdb1

5,558 Posts
09-13-2015 11:43 AM


Its been a while since I tried the Spider . So I rented the  




TaylorMade Ghost Spider Putter (L92+)
 then I played 
Arnie's last of the Summer Wine 1 Best of par 4
  Not only did I suck . It was V F greens which I have never figured out . I never claim to be able to putt . But with that unfamiliar Spider . Forget it . 78 was the best I could do . Terrible . I do not know how anyone can get used to that many meters and increments on those types of putters .
Mine has 15 , 30 , 60 , 100 , 150 , 300 
I think the Ping's have 15 , 30 , 45 , 90 , 150 , 300 , 
IDK what the Spider has but it scared me . Lol .  Although once I get to championship greens , I then may need the finer precision . 
  plus it helps to know the increments ( avatar moves ) of each meter mine is
15 = 5' , 10' , 15'
30 = 6' , 12' , 18' , 24' , 30'
60 = 12' , 24' , 36' , 48' , 60'
100 = 14.2' , 28.4' , 42.6' , 56.8' , 71.8' , 85.2' , 99.9'
150 = 16.6' , 33.2' , 49.8' , 66.4' , 83' , 99.6' , 116.2' , 149.4'
300 = 30' , 60' , 90' , 120' , 150' , 180' , 210' , 240' , 270' , 300'






[*]Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Ber3n17

Ber3n

34 Posts
09-14-2015 11:16 AM


I think it comes down to what you get used to and like. I purchased the TM Spider and have not regretted it, since I can put decently with it. Every time I rent a different putter I suck with it, but that I think that would be the case with most new clubs initially, there is a learning curve for each. And since different putters have different increments it can take some time to figure out where on power you need to hit it.
Those are just my 2 cents.
 
-Beren




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kishoph

198 Posts
09-15-2015 3:15 AM


Whichever putter you chose, be patient with it, Once you get used to it, hopefully you'll see the difference.
Good luck.




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pdb1

5,558 Posts
09-15-2015 5:26 PM



 Ber3n:
Every time I rent a different putter I suck with it, but that I think that would be the case with most new clubs initially, there is a learning curve for each. And since different putters have different increments it can take some time to figure out where on power you need to hit it.


  Well said Ber3n . And because most people likely cannot afford to rent each one at $ 5.00 a pop . Hopefully a free rental weekend in the near future will allow enough time for someone to get a good feel for a putter 




[*]
Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Pedrit14
pedrito96

57 Posts
09-16-2015 9:17 PM


well someone (i will reserve the name because i didnt ask him if he wanted me to publish his anme or not) gifted me the ping answer putter and it is amazing the forgiving it has now i can make less puts and lower my score even more thanks to that person and to everyone for the tips




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pdb1

5,558 Posts
09-16-2015 9:24 PM


  That is awesome Pedrito . Good to hear . I also thank the unknown gifter .




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KellyGreer

372 Posts
09-18-2015 12:51 PM


A. It's great that someone was kind enough to gift you that putter.  The putter that I currently have was also gifted to me - about 3 years ago & I am still using it.  That being the Nike Method level 77 putter.  And that putter costs 2,000 credits BTW.
B. Asking others their opinion on a putter will likely get you 100 different responses IMO.  For every person that says that they like a putter there are 2 who will tell you they tried it and didn't like it.  The point being you really have to try different putters and see what works best for you.   Personally I simply love my Nike Method 77 putter and will NEVER change to any other putter.  But there have literally been DOZENS of people who tell me they tried this very same putter and just came away frustrated by it.   Putters are like everything else here on WGT..........it is what you get used to.  I've seen Legend level player who still use the WGT free starter putter.  It's very simply what you get used to. 
P.S. The very best lower level putter that I ever came across when I was back at those early levels - back in the stone age - was the 

TaylorMade Ghost Manta Putter (L30+)




1,295 Credits

I LOVED that putter.  I made so many great putts with that level 30 putter that I was VERY tempted to go back to it when I started trying the Nike putters.  But it does cost nearly 1,300 credits.



[*]Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Bertas25

Bertasion

87 Posts
09-18-2015 3:27 PM


Pedrito -- The only advice given to me about putters is never buy one until after you've had the chance to throw it so you know how it feels in your grip and leaving your grip.  B  : ) 

[*]Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Smok3y13
Smok3y22

62 Posts
09-19-2015 7:06 AM


I need 2 meet this mystery gifter lol 



[*]Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Apdb1d26

pdb1

5,558 Posts
09-19-2015 7:27 AM



 Smok3y22:

I need 2 meet this mystery gifter lol 



  Look no further . But I am no mystery . 
  BTW thank you to the mystery gifter . I love it . 
  Paul
 

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pdb1

5,558 Posts
09-21-2015 8:06 PM



 pdb1:
Look no further . But I am no mystery .


 
   What i meant by look no further was . 5 minutes after that i gifted SMOK3Y22 a set of Nike irons . All he had was starter clubs . Now he can focus on a driver or something like wedges  . I went to message him this evening because I had not heard from him or seen the WGT reply from his accepting the irons . I saw that he still lists the WGT iron set in his bag . So when I tried to regift  them to see if it was declined because he already owns them . Which is the best way to see if your purchase went through . It was declined . So he has them and doesn't know it . 
  I have come to the conclusion that he is either a mobile or tablet or ipad user . They very often turn off email and other notifications ( to increase game performance ) . So he probably does not even know he has them . 
  He will eventually see them .


[*]Topics tagged under 1 on Valley of the Sun Casual Club - Page 2 Smok3y13

Smok3y22

62 Posts
09-22-2015 12:41 AM


Just read this post paul thanks so much for clubs appreciate it. Not used yet cos u was right i didnt know i had thanks again now lets try out my new clubs
by Paul
on Mon 12 Oct 2015, 12:13 am
 
Search in: TOURNEY TALK (archives)
Topic: FIRST PUTTER
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Views: 2438

WHAT IS WGT

Based in San Francisco, WGT Media is an innovative sports gaming company with over 20 million players worldwide across online, social and mobile platforms. Our mission is to combine our love of sports with unsurpassed high definition visual quality and innovative game play to be the leading online sports gaming and media company. Our games combine both 2D and 3D technologies to create the world's most photo-realistic online gaming experience, in both Golf and Baseball, with highly interactive multi-player game play.
WGT Golf (www.WGT.com) is the #1 free golf game with over 450 million virtual rounds played. WGT Golf features 24 famous virtual golf courses including Merion, Pebble Beach® and St Andrews. WGT Golf runs the annual Virtual U.S. Open in partnership with the USGA, and has partnered with NBC's Golf Channel and David Leadbetter. WGT Golf offers a range of virtual golf equipment from leading manufacturers, including Callaway, Cleveland, Nike, Ping, Srixon and TaylorMade.
In 2012, WGT Media launched WGT Baseball: MLB (www.wgtbaseball.com) in partnership with Major League Baseball Advanced Media. WGT Baseball is a realistic baseball game that puts fans inside their favorite MLB ballparks in HD virtual reality with MLB uniforms and players. In a unique blend of social gaming and fantasy baseball, players manage their rosters, making strategic in-game decisions and competing head-to-head against other players in rival games and mini seasons.
by Paul
on Sun 23 Aug 2015, 7:48 am
 
Search in: CRAZY WGT SHIT
Topic: WHAT IS WGT
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Views: 2243

HOW TO MAKE OUR TOURNEYS A GOOD GUIDE ( optional )

  By JimQ916
  Hi all you great members.....hope you're having a great Sunday. I previously posted a few suggestions in the forum concerning the CC Tournament set up that some members liked and some not so much. Taking everything into consideration I have thought about how to have more members sign up and complete the Tournaments they have signed up for. Here are my suggestions


  1) Time period....I suggest a minimum of 3 days (ideally 5) to complete a round / tournament:
***I've found that tournaments set up for 3 days or less has numerous members who don't / can't finish their rounds in time. Many members have jobs / family / obligations that prevent them from playing daily and / or even every 3 days so they can't finish in time. There are also numerous other things in our club to do (Blitz / Bracket / Specialty Tournaments) that crunch a members ability to play what they want and consider our CC Tournaments as not a priority (last on the of things to do list).


  2) How many Rounds...I suggest no more than 2 but any amount is up to you
*** I've found that Tournaments set up for 1 or 2 rounds have more participation and less members who sign up and don't play, or withdraw because of the length. Tournaments set up for 4 rounds have numerous members who play a round or 2 then either drop out or don't have the the time to finish and WD (see #1 above)


  3) Split Tiers....I suggest that most, if not all, Tournaments that are split up for Lower / Upper Tiers draw more people more complete the Tournaments
*** I've found that "All Tier Tournaments" are dominated by the L - TL's with the lower tier members finishing usually 6th or worse at best. I understand that the "All Tier" set up is preferred by some but the idea of "Split Tier Tournaments (H - TM and L - TL) would allow every member entered to compete against players of similar skills with a chance to Win. I find it frustrating to post a 32 - 33 and get beat by 5 - 6 strokes thus I avoid these "All Tier Tournaments"  with many other lower Tier members avoiding them also.


  4) Green Speeds / Wind / Tee's...I suggest that the green speeds be set up with the default speed used by WGT.
*** I've found that the green speeds be used in the set up of a Tournament sometimes influences a player to play or not. For the "Lower Tier" Players make the speeds Fast - Very Fast and the "Upper Tier" either Tournament  - Championship. You can choose the difficulty of a Tournament by moving around the tee's and adjusting wind speed. Every so often have a Tournament set up with faster green speed but make those few and far between. I myself, being just a Master, putt on VF greens but also enjoy playing on Tournament greens from time to time and Championship greens and up just kick my butt. Also, take into account the difficulty of the course being played... i recently screwed up by making a Tournament (at Brandon) with impossible green speeds for that course.


  5) 9 or 18 Holes...I suggest that most, if not all, tournaments be 9 hole rounds and not 18
*** Once again I screwed up when I set up the Brandon Tournament and made the rounds 18 holes and not 2 rounds of 9 each. I should have set the Tournament up for 2 rounds (1st one front 9, second round Back 9) and never gave a thought to all the time constraints of the members (see #1 above) when I did it.


  6) Entry Fee....I suggest that Tournaments be set up for a minimal amount of credits to enter (10 - 20 - 30)
I've found that the Tournaments that have a "low" entry fee attracts more members than one's that have a higher fee to join, especially in "All Tiered" Tournaments. Also, no pay Tournaments sometimes have numerous members joining or just a couple...flip of the coin. At our CC level we're allowed to have 12 free and 12 pay Tournaments going at once. See where we are in the amount of Tournaments there are but let's try to have 10 and 10 going at once. If we have all 24 set up there's no room for the Bracket Tournaments to be set up nor any other "Specialty" Tournaments, such as the "Starter Equipment" Tournaments.


  OK, that about covers what I feel would be ideal to attract members to join and also finish any CC Tournaments that are set up. I beg all members to consider setting up CC Tournaments and do so anyway you see fit.....these are just things I've noticed since becoming the Tournament Directer and checking each Tournament daily. Once again, these are only my suggestions and not requirements to set them up........Have a great Sunday......Jim
by Paul
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