OLD CLASH DISCUSSION FROM 2014

by **Paul** Mon 23 May 2016, 8:40 pm

alanti:
yet players still buy the passes effectively for bragging rights,

Uh what would you think if I told you that you were wrong about that . Maybe some of you 250 member clubs need that ego thing .
I think I can speak for the hundreds of small and very small clubs and say B S what or who do we have to brag about ? Never an issue . No prizes are ever on our minds . Just the game . Not even the results matter to us . When it's done it's done and life goes on .
Fathom that big boys .
We buy the passes so we can be involved in the exitement of the event . The sad thing is we don't ever stand a chance . And we have to scrape the bottom of our penny jars to do it .
pdb1
9,491 Posts Tue, Dec 16 2014 11:18 PM

I'm going to remind some you pompous elitists out there that there are guys and gals all throughout WGT that could never even entertain the thought of entering the clash because they are still trying to save up to get rid of their starter clubs . But do you know how much fun they would have if they could ? Three 37 cent passes is a dollar towards a driver a very precious dollar .
Just trying to remind us that a lot of us are still seeking fun . And finding it . Just finding it very expensive .
alanti
6,785 Posts Tue, Dec 16 2014 11:56 PM

Paul, I will try to address a few of your points.
I too belong to a small club (and will only be a maximum of 50 players) and the way the clashes are set up, we too will never win. The first clash got a lot of members playing and we were 12th -14th (by memory) overall.
Second one new member played, 3rd and 4th no-one played. The reason are they are not fair and geared solely for WGT to make money. So it is unlikely until it is skill based that any of our club will play.
So WGT with it stubborn attitude really is driving players away.
Your club has a good mix of tiers and tournaments (kudos to you), which I would hope would be enough to keep players occupied - and so they do not have to fork out for passes (and bear in mind CC levels really have very few benefits). In your case I would get some members to put up a sleeve of balls to run instead of the CC clash - drive it from within with something tangible for your members.
As you say, this game can be expensive to play, and buying CC passes is not money well spent IMO, especially if those members can ill afford to do so, but some players may feel pressured to be seen to be doing their fair share. But playing this game can be fun with starters equipment - it depends on the individual and what they set out to achieve.
Yes this clash appears to have had bugs .....again and if this occured players should inundate CS with complaints, then maybe they will be fairly compensated. And as for matching clubs, again it must be fair and results based on skill (have tiered clashes) as if they are not, then what is the point of playing?
I take no notice of names lol - I have been called much worse! I admire your passion, but remain objective - I wish WGT did - then they might be on a winner with a lot more clubs and players participating.
The way it is it will have a limited lifespan as the current model is like flogging a dead horse.
mantis0014
7,747 Posts Wed, Dec 17 2014 12:18 AM

pdb1:
Would you mind giving us all some kind of explanation of the disappearing passes . Yesterday the clash participants ( 5 of which reported non counted rounds ) in my club all received 50 passes . Overpayment ? Maybe but to take them all back just added insult to injury and ripped them all of again . Especially the top scorers .

Wgt made a mistake by sending Clubs 50 passes. We also got 50 passes each a couple of days ago. When they found their error, they took em back.
-Roger
clubwhack
183 Posts Wed, Dec 17 2014 2:28 AM

it happened to may of our club members as well. then they also awarded us points at a lower rate then smaller clubs. I say everyone should boycott these cash grabs until they get it right.
pdb1
9,491 Posts Wed, Dec 17 2014 4:16 AM

Before each clash I post an announcement in our forum reminding them they are not obligated . And it is fully their choice to participate.
The players with starter clubs are hacks , ams , pros , T P's and have not mastered their skills to be able to utilize their starters asa viable controlable weapon in higher level play YET ( of course they will in the future )

clubwhack:
. I say everyone should boycott these cash grabs until they get it right.

I support that action and if we were aware of a site wide actual boycott alliance . I would advocate and support it and lobby ,campaign , recruit , and do everything I could to help make the statement for change .