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    I have always said that golfing with WGT friends and players already on WGT . Is one of the GR8est features available .
    The myriad of people we have the opportunity to interact with . To share with . To learn from . To joke with . To converse with . To give and take . To learn about other cultures .
    People speaking other languages have instant translators now . One can have a conversation with anyone from all over the world . I can guarantee you will meet people from more places than you knew was possible .
    I suggest that people think a little harder before declining an invite . The chances are that you will not have another opportunity to play with that player again . The odds are against it . If you do not know the player .
    Try to invite more yourselves . You already know how fun it is .
    In the " JOIN A GAME " . You don't even have to invite . You just join on in with 3 or 2 or 1 new and likely unknown players . Play what will be a fun and inspiring round . With the possibility of ending up with 1 or 2 or 3 new friends or multiplayer mates .
    Keeping in mind that very soon . The already extremely difficult task of inviting , getting accepted . Or seeing and accepting an invite . In Flash because of the primitive means by which one is to be expected to be notified . By staring at a tiny little green blinking icon somewhere on a page that you happened to look away from for 45 seconds . Making inviting almost too hard to be worth it .
    Keeping in mind that the already familiar but excruciating invite system . Will not be around much longer . If you think it is hard now . Try it in PCEA . Lol . Nope not even almost worth it .
    With those dark days slowly but steadily closing in on us . NOW is the time to get those long procrastinated rounds with friends in .
    Maybe for the first time . Maybe you already do . But now realize it is time to step it up even more .
    This is absolutely intended to be a positive and encouraging post . But I shutter to think of what the future may hold for us .
    Invite today . Tomorrow . Everyday until the end of the year . Or until you can no longer . That is my advice .
   
    Paul
  Wow my fastest post in years . less than 1 hour . Amazing .
  
  
  
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  DonCaron 5,408 Posts

  Thu, Aug 20 2020 8:04 AM

  Sad, but true.
  Country Club communication is a big issue also. I tried to get players to use discord, teamspeak to no avail.
  No sense in country clubs anymore.
  
  
  
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  JDGHOST 4,014 Posts

  Thu, Aug 20 2020 8:28 AM

  pdb1:
    Keeping in mind that the already familiar but excruciating invite system . Will not be around much longer . If you think it is hard now . Try it in PCEA . Lol . Nope not even almost worth it .
    With those dark days slowly but steadily closing in on us

   
   
  Well said ....Just another reason PCEA is just no good ...And the Country Club (at least for me) Is by far the BEST aspect of WGT ....Without the easy access to the club the already high non participant numbers of club members will only grow exponentially ....I have beat this horse to death but I will say it again....Please keep flash AVAILABLE for the members that want to continue using it PAST 2020!! ...Many of us already have ways to continue on flash indefinitely....Like Dr Malcolm said...... "Flash players will find a way"
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  pdb1 20,758 Posts

  Thu, Aug 20 2020 8:29 AM

  DonCaron:
  Sad, but true.
  Country Club communication is a big issue also. I tried to get players to use discord, teamspeak to no avail.
  No sense in country clubs anymore.

    I feel you Don . I battled that for years . My members were hard core dedicated to the CC . Playing in everything we could create .
    But to get them in multiplayer matches was not an option . Much less Skype or any of the others .With the exception of a very few .
    It was very frustrating for me . I had no right to complain . Because they were playing everything . CC tourneys , CLASHes , CC vs CC interplay .
    Multiplayer isn't for everyone . But I sure love(d) it .
  
  
  
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  DonCaron 5,408 Posts

  Thu, Aug 20 2020 2:24 PM

  pdb1:
  

  DonCaron:
  Sad, but true.
  Country Club communication is a big issue also. I tried to get players to use discord, teamspeak to no avail.
  No sense in country clubs anymore.

    I feel you Don . I battled that for years . My members were hard core dedicated to the CC . Playing in everything we could create .
    But to get them in multiplayer matches was not an option . Much less Skype or any of the others .With the exception of a very few .
    It was very frustrating for me . I had no right to complain . Because they were playing everything . CC tourneys , CLASHes , CC vs CC interplay .
    Multiplayer isn't for everyone . But I sure love(d) it .

  Players play the tournaments fine. You have to have communication.
  You know what it takes from EA to get to the forums, and you know the drill trying to get them to read the forums.
  Your friends list works on flash, so that's gone. I can send a message on the webpage, but they wont get it on EA.
  Frustrating to say the least.
  
  
  
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  Gepetto1958 2,768 Posts

  Thu, Aug 20 2020 3:09 PM

  Think about it, there were thousands of us playing TOGETHER on PC each in our homes .... Now we can be TOGETHER in the same room with our mobiles playing ALONE.
  
  
  
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  pdb1 20,758 Posts

  Thu, Aug 20 2020 7:16 PM

    Lol . Yes in the same room playing alone . That already happens all over the place .
    When it comes to online golf . WGT PC Flash has kept ahead of others . By having as good of an accessible multiplayer as is offered .
    I really oppose letting that interactive link fade away .
    Once it is gone . Once PCEA becomes the main concern . Multiplayer will become obsolete .
    I think it is a big mistake . I think it will be missed . Solo online playing is not enough to make a GR8 site .
    5 years ago there was an estimated 60,000 plus Country Clubs on WGT . If there were only 10 players in each club . That would be 600,000 players .
    I think the numbers are bigger . But I don't see those CC's migrating to PCEA .
    Doesn't it appear to us that most long time players are opposed to the PCEA program ?
    Have you heard me say that in my recent search through 2500 profiles . I am astounded at the high number of players that have stopped playing in the last year . Long time players . That played steady up until this last year .
    Have you heard testimony from PCEA advocates . That sounded more like they were just settling . Which is exactly what they are doing .
    Have you noticed the GR8 number of established players ? That are not happy with PCEA ? That feel cheated ? That will not settle .? That cannot believe WGT has gone this easy route ?
    WGT only investing enough to match the mobile platform .Taking 3 steps backwards .
    Not pursuing a state of the art program . Still heavily multiplayer compatible . Going beyond what flash did . And then some .
    That decision will take the World out of WGT . W who ? People will say .
    To make a decision like that . Must mean they had already given up on WGT . As having any sort of positive revenue . They must have taken their money and invested it in something else .
  
  
  
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  pdb1 20,758 Posts

  Thu, Aug 20 2020 7:35 PM

    For the CC advocates . Which I am one .
    CC's are all completely different . The owners , the players all have different values and agenda's . None are the same .
    That is what is so valuable about CC's .
    WGT will find that CC's will be very disappointed if WGT doesn't accommodate all the different needs that CC's will require in PCEA .
    That is quite a lot .
    But the multiplayer players . Are going to also be disappointed in this platform . Multiplayer seekers do not need to be in a CC . Or they can be . But if they can't invite . How will they play ? I know they can invite . It is just much harder .
    I just don't get it .
  
  
  
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  HackWilson1930 1,363 Posts

  Fri, Aug 21 2020 4:17 AM

  With the changes that have come to the game, having a method of communication outside of WGT is vital. All the more reason to have programs such as Discord or TeamSpeak or Steam in everyday use by WGT golfers.
   
   
  
  
  
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  pdb1 20,758 Posts

  Fri, Aug 21 2020 6:10 AM

  HackWilson1930:
  With the changes that have come to the game, having a method of communication outside of WGT is vital. All the more reason to have programs such as Discord or TeamSpeak or Steam in everyday use by WGT golfers.
   
   

    Yes those programs are very helpful . When you have a network of friends that agree . When those friends are on and green and responding . Then it may be easier to invite and coordinate games .
    But if those friends are not available . Or not available often .
    Then multiplayer will be difficult . And will not have Discord or TeamSpeak or Steam communication .
    I do not know why more players are not on board those communication devices . Except for everyone knows you talk funny . Lol . No matter so do we .
    But still the invite system . The ability to invite and notify , and receive and accept invites . Is a weak effort at best .
    Notification could be improved . By having a notification message at the top and bottom of the screen . Or a pop up message in the middle of the screen .
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    Instead of the invisible little green icon first . That are most often missed . Or not clicked in time . By the time you get through the game client they have already given up on you . You just wasted the round you were in . If you were playing .
    If you were playing . You will see a pop up . Or a notification at the top and bottom of the page .
    If you are green . And not playing . That probably means you went to take a leak . Or bang the next door neighbor . And you won't see a pop up no matter how big it is .
    But if you are just writing a Forum post . Or checking a leader board , etc , etc . You will see the pop up .
    But you won't see the tiny green icon . And miss another invite .
    Shouldn't be that hard to make a better notification . From my experience this would almost fix the invites . Making it so easy . Even a red headed step child could do it .
  

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  bossbird 726 Posts

  Fri, Aug 21 2020 7:47 AM

  I am probably missing something here as I am a mobile player , but why can’t Wgt make the country club chat available to all players to use ? Why do we need an outside chat forum , when there is already the cc chat, all it needs is opening up to all users. 
  
  
  
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  pdb1 20,758 Posts

  Fri, Aug 21 2020 10:23 AM

  bossbird:
  I am probably missing something here as I am a mobile player , but why can’t Wgt make the country club chat available to all players to use ? Why do we need an outside chat forum , when there is already the cc chat, all it needs is opening up to all users. 

    Hi bossbird . Is the CC chat you refer to . A text chat ? Unlike the text chat in multiplayer mobile game mode ?
    I think part of the benefit of the voice chats . Are the notification bell or ringer . Usually on and louder than any WGT notifications . WGT volume and sound settings are usually turned down all the way . On account of that annoying ear  piercing theme song in the game client . Lol .
    The ringers  gets ones attention . That little green icon does not .
  Edit I remember the CC chat in Mobile now . If I remember right . One had to scroll through the entire list of chats . To the bottom . Then post a reply . Then repeat .
    But no . This thread is about the ability to actually notify a player of an invite and on the reverse , a player be able to accept invites . From any player . Whether be CC mate , friend , or not .
   
  
  
  
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  SamSpayed 2,338 Posts

  Fri, Aug 21 2020 11:21 AM

  bossbird:
  Why do we need an outside chat forum , when there is already the cc chat, all it needs is opening up to all users. 

  Because outside chat programs like Discord have many more robust features (including voice chat) and are much easier to use while playing a game than WGT's cc chat.
  
  
  
  
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  DonCaron 5,408 Posts

  Sat, Aug 22 2020 7:27 AM

  SamSpayed:
  

  bossbird:
  Why do we need an outside chat forum , when there is already the cc chat, all it needs is opening up to all users. 

  Because outside chat programs like Discord have many more robust features (including voice chat) and are much easier to use while playing a game than WGT's cc chat.

  Discord is by far the best app out there for all games. I have had discord, teamspeak and telegram. All I get is excuses why they won't use it. I setup a facebook page and only 1/2 the club is interested enough to use it.
  If WGT was smart, they would setup a discord on their old servers with all the space they have now from Early Access. Discord is free.
  I don't see this happening, but we can dream.
  
  
  
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  pdb1 20,758 Posts

  Sat, Aug 22 2020 8:45 AM

   
  
  

  DonCaron:
  If WGT was smart, they would setup a discord on their old servers

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    Another GR8 suggestion from an experienced long time study of the particulars of this game .
    Who knows why these well thought out , efficient , improvements fall on deaf ears ?
  
  
  
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  SamSpayed 2,338 Posts

  Sun, Aug 23 2020 8:42 PM

  DonCaron:
  If WGT was smart, they would setup a discord on their old servers with all the space they have now from Early Access. Discord is free.

  Self-hosting is not available for Discord.  And even if it were, based on what I've seen, I seriously doubt WGT would have the expertise to maintain it or deal with all the support e-mails they'd get from players having problems with it.  
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  pdb1 20,758 Posts

  Sun, Aug 23 2020 10:46 PM

  SamSpayed:
  I seriously doubt WGT would have the expertise to maintain it or deal with all the support e-mails they'd get from players having problems with it.

    Good point . Throughout the Flash Beta era . 2007 til the present . They have never wanted a support role . Whether it be discord or some other voice program . I think they would avoid adding programs that would require support .
    We can dream about how we wish the direction of WGT will go . But it is just a dream .