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It's been a while since I expressed some of my objectives for the CC . First of all I like and respect everyone that joins our club . I realize that not everyone knows what a CC is all about . Many have different reasons for joining . I really don't know how many of the other clubs are run . They are all different . What I want to emphasize in our CC is that whatever tier you are . That you feel comfortable here , part of a team of players that come here to find conditions that enable them to improve their game , hone their skills , lower their scores ,lower their averages , move up in tiers . Enjoyably and comfortably with the conditions that challenge them enough to keep that drive without the frustrationsof regular game play . All that is completely possible by either creating those tourneys yourself or by messaging me about it . Or someone else in your tier that has been creating tourneys . Any kind of information that you need to know should be provided here , any kind of appp , calculator , help , tutorial , tournament , statistic , message , opinion , gripe , compliment , etc , etc . Should able to be aqcuired here ( or in our website , as it may be easier there ). With your help , all of this can be done easily . We already have a good start . I am going to be here for a very long time trying to achieve all this . For any of you that think it's a good direction for your CC to go in . Then lets keep on keepin on . Sincerely , Your Co team member PDB1 , Paul ( sitting here on a rare rainy day ) May the SUN always be with you
Re: Where are the Flags ?By Bertasion in Valley of the Sun Casual Club The other day upon the heather fair I hit a flagstick that was not there. I saw it's shadow and heard the clank but where it stood was just a blank. It was not there again today. I wonder when it will come back and stay. Brian
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01-18-2015 3:59 AM
The tournaments could run a little smoother so I'm going to mention that
There are several very unnecessary occurances that have been repeating themselves week after week .
One of them is that players just play a match and then leave . I asked from the first week to please check with me first . So far every single tournament that we have had could not be finished properly because more than 1 of the participants left before their matches were over . Today there were 3 of you .
Now , back to the beginning .Almost every week I wait a little longer to start to see if late comers are going to show . For one because I too have had connection issues just before start time . Also aware that other things come up .Also the bracket will not allow me to start the match until every partipant has checked in or be removed . So as has happened in the last three tournaments . Just as i got through removing the few no shows and resetting then restarting the tournament . I go back to the chat and find that one of them has returned . I then start explaining that I had to remove them in order to start . That i will be right back to add them and restart the tournament . So I go back , reset the tourney , add the guy , and restart Well because I have to type all this and no one pays attention to what I type . This individual did not give me the courtesy to finish typing that I was happy to see him and glad he made it . Even though he was still there not reading what I was saying . ( sometimes I copy and paste the chat dialogue to offer as proof ) But there were 4 witnesses today . Well he stormed off never to return again . I had to go back and remove his name name that I had just entered and restarted the tournament for . Then restart the tourney again .
Evidentally he messaged another player who forgot to tell me . Why not message me . So I know what the deal is ?
Ok-. So far we have covered that at the beginning if you show up late and the tournament has already started . We all know that I will restart the tourney with no problem no remarks or complaining . That's a given . OK ? So stay there please .
Before I go on . I have created a page in our website that I have embedded the Saturday and Sunday brackets in . With the chat right in between them . These brackets run in real time . Which means when you look at them they are exactly current with the tournament . ( clarify real time once the tournament has started all the way through until after the finals and it has ended and the final results are posted ). So we are able to be right there in the chat and look right at the bracket and know where it stands .
I am quite proud of this feature . I have never heard of it before I created it .
Next , our brackets , ( the way I set them up ) especially for the single elimination . I set them up to have a third place Bronze match to play . This will be played by the two losers from the brackets prior to the semi finals . So when you lose . Your day isn't over you most probably have another match . As was the case today when the two players in the bronze match couldnt even look at the bracket right in front of their face and see they were set up in a match . Or even ask me if they were done . Again two more players were typing good bye and I clearly had typed in capitol letters HEY WAIT YOU HAVE ANOTHER MATCH DO NOT GO PLEASE HEY HEY HEY . Then they would type ok see you guys next time . And I would type HEY HEY HEY GOD DAMMIT IM TRYING TO GET YOUR ATTENTION . Then they would type thx Paul see you . And they were gone . And the other guys still in the chat would go . LOL , LMAO , WOW , I would say can you believe this *** ? A couple of the guys have been there to witness this every time it happens . Like about 6 now .
Sunday Stroke Play matches tomorrow are DOUBLE ELIMINATION . Every one has to lose at least twice before they are done .
Next , if you are one of the ones waiting for another match and you go to the chat and no one is there . Because everyone is obviously playing in a match probably i'm guessing the last two in the semi finals . Please before you message me and say " I came to the chat but no one was there so guess the match is over ." Please just look at the bracket if there are matches still unfinished on it . Then the people in it are in it . If the brackets says . This tournament is over and the SUPREME CHAMPION is so and so . Then it is probably over . If you look up on the final bracket and see a match between yourself and some one else and it says you lost and you didn't even play it . Duh I guess you left a little too early .
Many of you were not here when I first explained all of this . But some of you were and are the ones repeatedly causing this migrane . I am not trying to insult or be disrespectful . These things are a bunch of uneccesary *** that I know if we think about it we can avoid . It is hard enough just to set up a tournament to get to the point of playing it . This other stuff on top of it week after week . Is unbearable .
I / we will try this again . I am quite sure that things can go smoothley . I really have fun . If we can just all try to do it smart . Should be all good .
Thank you all for participating
01-18-2015 4:17 AM
With a little effort we can make this happen.....lets go team "VOTSCC".
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Between pdb1, tujay
tujay wrote on 04 Jan 2015 at 6:30 PM
I am really sorry for not hanging around. I am learning the concept on the go and did not understand I had left early. Sorry
pdb1 wrote on 04 Jan 2015 at 6:42 PM
Quite alright . We'll do better next time . Thank you for your participation and especially for your response to this . All good .
May the SUN always be with you
pdb1 wrote on 10 Jan 2015 at 4:51 PM
Tujay are you going to make it to FLASHMOB ? It is starting .
tujay wrote on 11 Jan 2015 at 12:55 AM
Sorry but been away all day
pdb1 wrote on 11 Jan 2015 at 2:04 AM
OK . But the sponsors come to me and ask where are your guys . I have to go message you guys and come back to the chat and not know what to say . They end up having to remove you guys at the last minute and reshuffling the seeds . It just puts me in an embarrassing position.
This was a WGT multi club / player tournament . Just happened that 3 of my club players were the only ones that didn't show . I of course apologized and said there had to be very good reasons and that I had told everyone not to sign up if they weren't going to be available . It was all good . The tournament went on and was very enjoyable . I'm just saying ....Lets try to not do it too often . Thanx and no worries .
tujay wrote on 18 Jan 2015 at 9:22 PM
Mate - I will not be able to play Sunday comps as they commence at 8 am Monday Australian time. I am at work at this time now my holidays are over. Sorry
pdb1 wrote on 19 Jan 2015 at 12:21 AM
That's fine thank you for letting me know . You will be missed in the event . Please check the daily , weekday blitz we are doing . You can play at your convenience . Each day
01-25-2015 7:28 PM
Tujay : I am very sorry you got that sense from what was only another miscommunication . If you could see the certain situations ( and they are all a little different ) you would see that I try a nd stay cailm and always try to listen tio every angle ( that is if I ever get a chance to talk to them ) There are currently 3 individuals (of which you were one of ) that had been entering the tournaments and then by some unfortunate instance by which no fault of your own I am sure of .Have left each tournament with out ever speaking a word to me . Not before , not during , and not after they have exited , and maybe never .
When I said you were one of those . Is because finally today one hour and a half after the tournament had started and to my knowledge had completely disappeared from contact until then .You did show up . And for the first time I was able to get your attention and we had a couple of exchanges back and forth that was to me a gr8 turning point in the tourneys . Many of the problems occuring could have been fixed had I been talked to and given a chance to either reassign the match up or something fair to the event .
Not knowing if or if not a match has been able to be played has occured in every tournament . I have not just sat there and let people not give me the information but usually politely message them for an explanation .
In one of todays situations with you when you were gone so long . It turned out that you had gone off and played with one of the other entrants . Not even your opponent . Assuming that the pregame sample bracket had the tournament match ups .
I have tried to tell , write , inform everyone of the procedures in a bracket tourney .
The list you saw still had 4 entrants on it that never showed up . I waited the extra 20 minutes . First asking E 1 if it was OK to wait I thought E 1 said yes .
I then go and remove the no shows , resort the match ups so a master doesn't play a legend and start the tournament . All of that only takes 1 minute .
I then go to the chat that where E 1 is looking at the real bracxet that had changed right before their eyes .
And say the " tourney has begun ."
Before I was able to then ask each match up to speak to one and other and decide who sets and invites .
I notice a new person there . Someone that wasnt even on the original no show list .
Inquiring if it was too late and may he stil enter ?
I said of course and welcome .
I then had to return to the admin . End the tournament , resort the match ups , and restart the tournament .
I go back to the chat . Ask E 1 if they are all ready ? I thought E 1 said yes . I thought the tournament would begin .
But NO . WHY ? Because two of the enrants were off playing their own match . A master and a Legend . (which at that point nobody knew that we just knew they were gone)
That left 4 more enrants that could not play in their matchups . I could not go back and restart because those two were gone and would not be able to play their true match ups (.unless they showed back up right away or let us know they were off playing in the wrong match up.)
So the two match ups remaining (4 guys ) went ahead and played .
The tournament was over at that point even before the two match ups played .
Because out of the 8 guys remaining( 4 with match ups & 4 without) . They were so ticked off at me ( unjustly ) that they couldn't stop and make a match with each other , Which I had typed into the chat several times . They all left very disappointed .
I played my match with MG , Chris played his match with Buffaloforest .
A couple of you showed back up .
That was when Tujay and I were able to chat for the first time . I thought that was cool .
Of course it was neither the place and time to inform the gang of the reason the tournament was as it was . And I did not .((( Especially in a chat room where one has to basically wait for the other person to respond. Which never happens. Because he was too busy typing to see anything anyone typed to him . By the time he looks up that screen had filled with chat and is gone .)))
I offered to play another bracket after Chris and I played our final match .
Some agreed and some declined . Chris and I played . He won soundly .
To no surprize to us . Really it was fine . E 1 had gone about their ways .
That my friends was the short version . There was some other occurances nothing negative but not neccessary to include in the descrription .
I am certainly not the nazi that tujay described . lol
But as I had thought we were developing adult friendships where in the thick of things one may say something uncomfortable to the other expecting them to be able to handle it . I have encountered many with very short fuses and tempers witnessing some spontanious combustions . lol. Usually settling and eventually straightening out
That being said . I today as frustrated as I was and you could not imagine the things that were going through my head when That little feeling of being ignored and abandoned feeling was gnawing at the back of my head .
B ecause who knew or would ever think that the two guys that were missing from the bracket that I had not heard anything from . That were not matched up . And would not have been if avoidable master and legend . And also at the same time that I was unaware they were also unaware that they were missing without our knowledge playing in the wrong match up .,
Well during that moment as i was trying to search for the answers which in this case included and always does messaging and trying to politely request them to show back up or something .(several of you have been the recipients of these confusing and crazy messages . )
This time I went to far though .
I want to apologize right now to tujay for leaving him a desparate message with the anachronym WTF & fkn . I usually never let go quite that badly but I did this time .
And look what it has done . I hope you accept my apology tujay . We can maturly move on .