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VOTSCC KICK ASS TOURNEY WINNERS JULY 2017

This feature is a monthly compilation of the various VOTSCC CC tournaments , CC events , WGT tournaments . That VOTSCCers enter and win . Most of these tournaments are non competitive unlimited play . It is simply a record of the history . Provided for the players as a reference . If anyone is interested . I have been doing this monthly since the CC was started in 2014 .. Every tournament that has ever been played in VOTSCC is recorded here . With the active link to the Tournament results in WGT .

dschom5 27

CoryGRobinson 17

Charles1553N 7

Jtcooki 4

kishoph 4

Textor 2

DufferJohn7 2

crazycarla9 2

jcm51 2

RobinStarnes 2

micamills 2

MGroza 1

macmanred 1

rabbit1ear 1

01 Jul

Charles1553N came in first place in Chambers Bay F9 Fun Setup.

02 Jul

Charles1553N came in first place in Chambers F9 / B9 H - M (Front / Low / VF).

07 Jul

Charles1553N moved up to the Tour Master tier.

10 Jul

Charles1553N came in first place in Pebble Beach B9 (Front / Low / VF).

11 Jul

Charles1553N came in first place in Kiawah F9 / B9 Tiered H - M (Default / Low / VF).

14 Jul

Charles1553N came in first place in July Challenge Erin Hills H - M.

18 Jul

Charles1553N came in first place in St. Andy F9 / B9 H - M (Easy / Low / VF).

02 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Erin Hills Test.

02 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Chambers F9 / B9 TM - C (Middle / Low / Torn).

04 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Carla'a.

07 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in HTEB EGAP KCAB OT TNORF.

15 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in BRACKET TOURNAMENT #132 (Stroke Play).

16 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in BO Famous Holes B9 (Default / Low / VF).

18 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in St. Andy F9 / B9 TM - C (Easy / Low / Championship.

18 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 2nd Whiskey Run MerionBCK9 SINGLE PLAY.

21 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Chambers Bay B9 (Custom Tees / Low / Torn).

21 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Chambers Bay F9 (Custom Tees / Low / Torn).

22 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Kiawah.

25 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 3rd Whiskey Run Congress SINGLE PLAY.

26 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Carla's Crazy Bracket.

30 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Kiawah.

31 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in MCA RABBITS ON ABOUT THESE HIOs.

02 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Bethpage B9 (Default / Moderate / Torn).

02 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Bethpage Black F9 (Default / Moderate / Torn).

03 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in JT's CLASH HIT AT OC.

04 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Merion B9 (Middle Tees / Low Winds / VF Greens.

04 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Merion F9 (Medium / Low / VF).

07 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in SUN UP....SUN DOWN.

09 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in St. George B9 (Default / Low / Torn).

10 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Pebble Beach F9 (Front / Low / VF).

10 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in BRACKET TOURNAMENT #131 (Stroke Play).

11 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in 1ST WHISKEY RUN... UNLIMITED PLAY BETHPAGE BACK 9.

11 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Kiawah F9 / B9 Tiered TM - C (Default / Low / Torn.

14 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Erin Hills B9 (Front / Low / VF).

14 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Erin Hills F9 (Front / Moderate / VF).

13 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in BO Par 5's F9 / B9 (Custom Tees / Moderate / Torn).

14 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in July Challenge Erin Hills TM - TC.

16 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in BO Famous Holes F9 (Default / Low / VF)
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17 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in TURD IS THE WURD THIS WEEK.

18 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Pinehurst #2 B9 (Default / Low / Champ).

18 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Pinehurst #2 F9 (Default / Low / Champ).

19 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Brandon 3's F9 / B9 (Defallt / Moderate / Torn).

21 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Merion F9 / B9 (Middle / Moderate / Torn / Easy) T.

26 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in 1st Arnie Finlay Lower Your Average Memorial.

30 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Chambers Bay B9 (Default / Low / Torny).

30 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Chambers Bay F9 (Default / Low / Torny).

31 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in BRACKET TOURNAMENT #135 (Stroke Play).

03 Jul

DufferJohn7 came in first place in BRACKET TOURNAMENT #130 (Stroke Play).

04 Jul

DufferJohn7 came in first place in VOTSCC KICK ASS CTTH BRACKET # 61

04 Jul

Jtcooki came in first place in Famous Holes B9 (Easy / Low / VF) A Dime to Enter.

11 Jul

Jtcooki came in first place in VOTSCC Members Only F9 / B9 (EASY / LOW / TORN).

24 Jul

Jtcooki came in first place in KIAWAH FEELS THE FORCE OF YODA

24 Jul

Jtcooki came in first place in Erin Hills F9 / B9 Advanced TM - C (Middle / Low /.

04 Jul

jcm51 came in first place in Famous Holes F9 (Easy / Low /VF (10 Credits to ent.

26 Jul

jcm51 came in first place in Congress F9 / B9 Advanced TM - C (Torn Greens).

05 Jul

RobinStarnes came in first place in Wk 26 Nation 9 Hole Single Play.

20 Jul

RobinStarnes came in first place in Wk 28 Nation 9 Hole Single Play.

06 Jul

micamills came in first place in VOTSCC KICK ASS CTTH 2 ROUNDERS

15 Jul

micamills came in first place in KICK ASS CTTH 2 ROUNDERS SEASON 5 FINALE.

09 Jul

kishoph came in first place in St. George F9 (Default / Low / Torn).

20 Jul

kishoph came in first place in BRACKET TOURNAMENT #133 (Stroke Play).

27 Jul

kishoph came in first place in Ozzie's CTTH.

31 Jul

kishoph came in first place in KICK ASS CTTH BRACKET # 63.

10 Jul

MGroza came in first place in JIMQ916 REACHES 1,000,000.

19 Jul

macmanred came in first place in Legend Best of Par 5 B9 Ready Go.

21 Jul

Textor came in first place in Merion F9 / B9 (Front / Moderate / VF / Easy) H - .

24 Jul

Textor came in first place in Erin Hills F9 / B9 Developing H - M (Front / Low /.

25 Jul

crazycarla9 came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket Tournament .

26 Jul

crazycarla9 came in first place in 9 Hole Tierless Bracket Free.

29 Jul

crazycarla9 came in first place in Fun Setup Best of Par 4s.

26 Jul

rabbit1ear came in first place in Congress F9 / B9 Developing H - M (VF Greens).

TOURNEY WINNERS FOR JUNE 2017

CoryGRobinson 17

dschom5 12

crazycarla9 9

kishoph 8

micamills 7

DufferJohn7 5

donnymac3 2

Charles1553N 2

Jtcooki 1

jcm51 1

Shnig19 1

JimQ916 1

WhiskeyRenegade 1

Textor 1

30 Jun

micamills came in first place in VOTSCC KICK ASS CTTH 2 ROUNDER # 32.

30 Jun

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Olympic F9 / B9 TM - C (Default / Moderate / Torn).

30 Jun

Textor came in first place in Olympic F9 / B9 H - M (Default / Moderate / VF).

29 Jun

crazycarla9 came in first place in VOTSCC KICK ASS SOTWC # 8- 5 DAY.

29 Jun

kishoph came in first place in ST ANDREWS - On Ozzieplayers Bucket List.

28 Jun

dschom5 came in first place in Kiawah F9 / B9 (Default / Moderate / Torn).

28 Jun

dschom5 came in first place in Kiawah F9 / B9 H - M (Front / Low / VF).

28 Jun

micamills came in first place in THE REAL KICK ASS CTTH BRACKET # 60.

27 Jun

Jtcooki came in first place in BO Famous Holes B9 (Default / Moderate / Torn).

27 Jun

dschom5 came in first place in BO Famous Holes F9 (Default / Moderate / Torn).

27 Jun

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Custom Built F9's (a Dime to play...top 3 payout).

26 Jun

crazycarla9 came in first place in Master 9 Hole Bracket Free.

26 Jun

CoryGRobinson came in first place in TEXTORS GOLDEN (BEAR) HANDSHAKE.

26 Jun

dschom5 came in first place in Pinehurst #2 B9 (Rotating Tees / Moderate / VF).

26 Jun

kishoph came in first place in Pinehurst #2 F9 (Rotating Tees / Moderate / VF).

25 Jun

micamills came in first place in VOTSCC KICK ASS CTTH BRACKET # 60.

25 Jun

Charles1553N came in first place in KICK ASS SOTWC # 8.

24 Jun

dschom5 came in first place in Bracket Tournament #129 (Stroke Play).

23 Jun

micamills came in first place in KICK ASS CTTH 2 ROUNDERS.

23 Jun

kishoph came in first place in Custom Built B9's (a Dime to play...top 3 payout).

22 Jun

crazycarla9 came in first place in Master 9 Hole Bracket Free.

21 Jun

crazycarla9 came in first place in Master 9 Hole Bracket Free.

21 Jun

kishoph came in first place in St. George F9 / B9 TM - C (Middle / Moderate / Tor.

21 Jun

WhiskeyRenegade came in first place in St. George F9 / B9 H - M (Front / Low / VF).

20 Jun

CoryGRobinson came in first place in VOTSCC KICK ASS CTTH BRACKET # 59.

20 Jun

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Pebble Beach B9 (Default / Low / Torn).

20 Jun

DufferJohn7 came in first place in Pebble Beach F9 (Default / Low / Torn).

20 Jun

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Bracket Tournament #128 (Stroke Play).

19 Jun

CoryGRobinson came in first place in G. CORYS HAD A WEEK THAT WAS..

19 Jun

DufferJohn7 came in first place in Arnies Last tour.

19 Jun

dschom5 came in first place in Congressional B9 (Default / Low / Torn).

19 Jun

dschom5 came in first place in Congressional F9 (Default / Low / Torn).

19 Jun

JimQ916 came in first place in Practice with the short stick.

18 Jun

donnymac3 came in first place in KICK ASS SOTWC # 7.

17 Jun

crazycarla9 came in first place in Master 9 Hole Speed Bracket Free.

17 Jun

DufferJohn7 came in first place in Pinehurst #2 F9 Fun Setup.

16 Jun

CoryGRobinson came in first place in June Challenge - Advanced Tiers.

16 Jun

crazycarla9 came in first place in June Challenge - Developing tiers.

16 Jun

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Chambers Bay F9 / B9 (Hard / Medium / VF).

15 Jun

CoryGRobinson came in first place in VOTSCC KICK ASS CTTH BRACKET # 58.

15 Jun

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Bracket Tournament #127 (Stroke Play).

14 Jun

crazycarla9 came in first place in Tour Pro Bracket 9H Free.

14 Jun

kishoph came in first place in Bethpage B9 (Front / Moderate / Torn).

14 Jun

micamills came in first place in Bethpage F9 (Front / Moderate / Torn).

13 Jun

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Olympic B9 (Random / Low / Torn).

13 Jun

dschom5 came in first place in Olympic F9 (Random / Low / Torn).

13 Jun

crazycarla9 came in first place in Pro 9 Hole Bracket Free.

12 Jun

CoryGRobinson came in first place in THE WHISKEYS ARE ON KEVIN AT KIAWAH..

11 Jun

micamills came in first place in KICK ASS CTTH 2 ROUNDERS.

11 Jun

Charles1553N came in first place in St. George F9 (Medium / Low / VF).

11 Jun

CoryGRobinson came in first place in St. George F9 (Medium / Low / VF).

11 Jun

CoryGRobinson came in first place in St. A's Merry Ol'ympic Pebble.

10 Jun

crazycarla9 came in first place in Pro 9 Hole Bracket Free.

10 Jun
DufferJohn7 came in first place in St Andrews Front 9 Fun Setup.
10 Jun
Shnig19 came in first place in 2 Round Tour Masterand and under.
09 Jun
dschom5 came in first place in BO Famous Holes F9 (Middle / Moderate/ VF).
09 Jun
DufferJohn7 came in first place in Bracket Tournament #126 (Stroke Play).

09 Jun
dschom5 came in first place in BO Famous Holes F9 (Middle / Moderate/ VF).
09 Jul

kishoph came in first place in St. George F9 (Default / Low / Torn).

08 Jun

donnymac3 came in first place in VOTSCC KICK ASS SOTWC # 6.

08 Jun

dschom5 came in first place in Carla's Creative Quickies.

08 Jun

CoryGRobinson came in first place in VOTSCC KICK ASS CTTH BRACKET # 57.

05 Jun

dschom5 came in first place in PAR 5s, HIGH 5s FOR TURD.

05 Jun

kishoph came in first place in HOLE IN ONE SHOOT-OUT.

05 Jun

CoryGRobinson came in first place in June Madness.

03 Jun

jcm51 came in first place in Pebble Beach B9 Fun Setup.

03 Jun

micamills came in first place in KICK ASS CTTH 2 ROUNDERS.

03 Jun

crazycarla9 came in first place in this is easy.

01 Jun

kishoph came in first place in KICK ASS SET OF THE WEEK CLUBS # 5.

Bethpage Black 18 - Course Walk Through

Bethpage Black 18 - Course Walk Through
17 Feb 2012 at 9:18 AM

Hole 1

The Drive

With the landing area 40' below, it's easy to drive into the farside rough if you're not paying attention. Look for a tailwind off this tee. When conditions are right, full backspin with a tailwind to such a low fairway can result in some amazing drives with tremendous carry.

(If you don't add backspin, your drive will be at a much lower trajectory that will either get hung up in the trees or bounce through the fairway into the farside rough. Backspin not only has more carry, but lands very softly from this elevation)

Most players with good quality drivers in such conditions can cut the corner and leave themselves only a short iron into this green. It takes a leap of faith to aim for a fairway 300 yards away when your driver only goes 270, but it should make it.

If the wind is in your face, all bets are off. Aim dead straight and play for the middle of the fairway at the dogleg. Cheating the corner will give you a few extra yards, but be careful of the 40-50% rough on the right.

The Approach

From the fairway: This hole plays long. Add three or four extra yards to your approach to get it up to the pin. This is true whether the pin is in front or in the back left position. Neither location will allow for much roll since both are on an up slope, so plan on flying the ball almost the whole way.

From 40-50% rough: Which iron to hit depends largely on your clubs and how well they play from the rough. For me, a 140 yard shot from this lie is a 175 yard 5i. I aim for a clear path to the green over fairway because the ball is only going to fly about 80 yards, then bounce the rest of the way. I also use about a half ball of backspin to make more solid contact with the golf ball. I won't go any lower than a 5i from this lie regardless of the distance.

If you're behind a tree, trying to pull off a miracle shot is unlikely to have a good outcome. Know when the right choice is to wedge it out to the fairway. From 120 yds out, it's a fairly easy up and down.

The green doesn't have a lot of surprises, so correct for the wind and make sure you give it a little extra oomph and you should be close.

Hole 2

The drive.

This is a hard hole to birdie because your drive and your approach are equally important. A mistake on either takes birdie out of play. If you can make it to the green in regulation, you'll be rewarded with a fairly flat putt that is makeable up to 20'.

The drive requires most golfers to cut the corner of the trees and land on a fairway that runs about 30 degrees to the left and up the hill. The fairway is protected on the left by a large tree that I like to call, "You $#@#ing %$#@sucker" and it takes great pleasure in dropping you into 40% rough.

Advanced players can draw the ball around the tree by aiming right and hitting way left, but it is a low percentage shot for most people, so I don't recommend it. Play for the edge of the tree and get your ball as far up the fairway as possible, even if it means teeing off with a 3W (A 3W, incidentally, can fly the tree). Also remember that the landing area, which slopes upward, will minimize the amount of roll after landing.

The ideal wind is right to left. You can ride that wind right around the corner.

The Approach

The green is anywhere from 20' to 35' above the fairway depending on your lie. Such a disparity is often the hardest variable to factor into a golfer's club selection. This shot, regardless of club, is going to be short and it's going to roll out. Anything with a lower trajectory than a PW is going to be hard to control.

Adding full backspin to your approach will maximize the amount of loft and help curb the roll once it lands. Here are 3 examples of similar shots:

From 85 yards out with an 8 mph tailwind, and 24' below the hole, my dinged 56 degree (90 yard) wedge with full backspin stuck the green at 81 yards, 9.6' short of the hole with a downhill putt

From 88 yards out with the same 8 mph tailwind, and 25' below the hole, my dinged 56 degree (90 yard) wedge with half backspin flew 82 yards, and rolled 2 more yards.

From 88 yards out, same 8 mph tailwind, 25' below the hole, my dinged 105 yd PW with no spin at all, landed at 94 yards and rolled out to the far side rough at 103 yards.

(I would have done one more with a PW and full backspin, but I reached the 10 stroke limit)

My point is, plan for short carry and long roll on this approach. Rolling a bit past the hole will leave you with an easier uphill putt.

If you're hitting from the fairway rough, you're unlikely to reach and hold the green. Playing for the ball to get hung up in the rough between to two greenside bunkers makes for a decent chance at an up and down to save par.

Hole 3

The tee shot
A visually daunting long par three that isn't as tough as it looks. At the back pin location, the hole is below you 4'-10', so you should be able to get your tee shot carry any danger and land softly. Winds on this hole are generally from a left to right direction and not as strong as on the rest of the course. A little backspin will help carry the front bunkers and help hold the green.

If you're going to miss, miss right. Shots that miss right are generally a little shorter with less roll than a pulled shot. The front edge of the green on the right side is 50 yards closer than the back edge of the green on the left side. This means you have a ton of room to miss right.

Missing left will find either the bunker or 40-50% rough. Miss right.

Hole 4 - Reachable Par 5, (or two par 2-1/2s)

The Drive

The big danger on this drive is the grove of bunkers left of the fairway. The whole fairway is above you, so don't expect any record breaking drives, but it's sloped from right to left to help well-struck shots roll around the corner like a race car on a high bank.

Avoid the rough at all costs on this drive!

The most common mistake on this tee shot is over compensating for the bunkers and driving into the rough on the far side of the fairway. If you can fly the bunkers, then you don't have to worry about the rough and you can land your ball squarely in the middle of the fairway. If you can't fly the bunkers and have to roll around them, you're better off with a 3W from the tee rather than risking the rough.

A drive into the rough not only takes birdie out of play, but anyone dumb enough to try to reach the upper fairway from that lie, will almost certainly find the enormous bunker up ahead. If you hit the rough, lay up as far as you can on the lower fairway and you can still reach the green in regulation.

2nd Shot - Lay up or Approach

The smart money is on laying up to the right, pin high. This leaves a full or punched wedge to the pin and an easy birdie. Pick your spot about 55 yards away from the pin, add full backspin to give you some extra loft and club up. You'll be trying to reach a landing spot that is 30-40' above you, so you'll probably still be a little short. From this lie, you should be about level with the pin

If you go for the green, you will probably not reach it and get hung up in the thick rough if you miss left, or the bunker if your shot is on line. Either way, I'd rather have the full wedge shot from 50 yards than a 25 yard chip from the rough or a 20 yard from the sand, both shots have the green running away from you.

If you manage to land the green, the trajectory of your shot will be so low that you are unlikely to hold the green and will end up in the backside rough. The choice is yours. I choose to lay up.

3rd Shot - Approach or Rescue

From the bunker, play a full swing wedge with partial power or a flop to clear the lip of the bunker. Full swing is better because you can fly the edge of the green which has a nasty bump that can kick your ball forward 20'. A pitch is unlikely to make it out of the bunker.

From the rough, club up with a pitch with full backspin. You should get within 10' - From the fairway, full swing wedge or punch. Nothing to it, just target practice.

Hole 5 - A Looooong Par 4

This hole is similar to the 9th at Oakmont in that it's a lay up par 4. Going for the green in regulation is tempting, but ultimately a mistake and the sign of an undisciplined golfer. If you try to reach this green in two, I can guarantee you, you'll end up with more bogeys than pars and birdies combined.

The drive

Depending on your clubs and the wind, your goal is to carry the farthest bunker. The landing area is downhill 10'-15' so it's not as difficult as it looks, give yourself between 1/2 to full backspin to give you some extra carry and to control the roll after you land.

The more common danger is driving into the farside rough, so you should club down if that's a risk for you.

Ultimately, a great drive on this hole is wasted. Smarter players will be laying up to the end of the fairway rather than trying to hold a green 200 yards away, uphill, and surrounded by danger on all sides. (See my replay #3 "Taking the Bait @BPB 5" for a best case scenario of this approach shot)

Drive conservatively here and you shouldn't have a difficult time saving par.

The Lay up

You might only need a wedge or a short iron to lay up, but it's still the right shot. Play for the end of the fairway and you should have a relatively easy up and down 75-85 yards out. (See my replay #2 - "Saving Par @BPB 5" for an example).

The green is still 15'-20' above you from this lie, so it's not a gimme. Play a little long with your wedge and control the roll, but you should still end up with a very makeable putt to save par.

Hole 6 - A Long Driving Par 4

The Drive

Probably one most peoples' favorite driving hole; a well struck, well placed drive can catch the downslope of the fairway and roll 310 yards with a 270 yard driver. Of course, it can also get snagged by the bunker left or wind up in the deep rough on the right.

Use the zoom here and pick the perfect spot to land your ball. Longer hitters will have more carry on this hole, not just because they are longer hitters, but because the fairway slopes downhill away from the tee. The longer you hit your drive, the more downhill the fairway. Because I use a 250 yard driver from the TM tees, I'm not really able to reach the downslope like others can. Still, I have a few pointers for this drive.

First, don't use full backspin unless you have a strong tailwind! It will shorten your drive and possibly bite before reaching the downslope. Backspin also amplifies mishits and this is one hole where straightness is more important than distance. Half-backspin (or less in a light headwind) is enough to get the ball in the air high enough to carry the bunker.

The hole is birdiable with a short drive too, so don't let testoterone get the better of you.

The Approach

The pin is below you. How far below you depends on the length of your drive. From 150 yards out, you're about 15' above the pin. From 100 yards out, you're only about 5' above the pin. Play your approach with these numbers in mind and adjust accordingly. Both shots will carry more than the clubs' rated yardage, but the longer shot will have a bigger discrepancy.

The pin, whether front or back, is fairly flat and easy to get close.

Hole 7
500+ yard Par 4

By all accounts, this is the hardest hole on BPB. It's really a par 5. It requires distance and accuracy on both the drive and the approach to even have a shot at up and down for par.

The drive

There is a huge landing area just past the large bunker to the right, but not every part of the landing area is a good spot. Golfers who try to squeeze extra yardage off the tee by hugging the right side can find themselves blocked from the green by the hammock of trees.

If you can't drive past the trees to the point where you can see the green, then don't play that shot. Aim further back on the fairway to a point where you have a good line of sight to the green.

2nd Shot and 3rd Shot - The Lay Up and Approach

Much like the 5th hole, this hole should be played like a par 5 with a fairway lay up for a wedge to the pin. There is danger at the bottle neck with sand on both sides. Even if you thread the needle and stay on the fairway, if you don't have enough club to reach the green, you'll be left with an awkward 25-35 yard shot. If you hit one of the bunkers, you'll probably end up with bogey.

It's a better idea to club down to an iron and give yourself an easy 50-75 yard wedge. You may not get birdie, but you completely remove danger from the equation. In my replay number 4 (Laying Up @BPB 7) you see a mishit 3i that is still safe and on the fairway, leaving me with a simple 50 punched wedge for an up and down and a good par on this difficult hole (See replay number 5: Approach @BPB 7)

Hole 8 - Downhill Par 3

The tee shot

This hole is all about club selection and wind. At 20'-30' below you, you have to know which club is going to give you the right distance, and that's going to depend largely on the tee box location.

For the Pro thru Tour Master tees, a good rule of thumb is to club down for light winds, club down twice for a good tailwind, and play the regular yardage in a strong headwind. Obviously this depends on your particular clubs more than anything, but it's an effective general guideline.

Because the pin is so far below the tees and because it's on an upslope, the ball is going to stick this green like a wedge shot.

Don't miss right or left. Try to get your line perfect. Crosswinds affect this hole less than you'd expect so don't overcompensate for the wind. If you're short or long, you will have a fairly straight putt. If you miss left or right, you'll have a hard breaking putt.

The best scenario is a good line to the pin and short, this gives you a simple uphill putt for birdie.

Hole 9 - A Blind Par 4

The Drive

The fairway slopes dramatically from right to left. and at the crotch of the dogleg left is a bunker. Directly to the right of the bunker, extending out at about 2:00 O'clock, is a ridge that cuts the fairway in half. If you land your drive into the face of that ridge, your ball will stop dead. If you land your drive on the backside of that ridge, you'll get a nice kick forward. That's where I try to land it, but I have a short driver and most people can fly the ridge altogether.

If you fly the ridge, aim for the right side of the fairway and your ball will want to follow the contour of the fairway to the left. Hit it too hard and you'll be in the farside rough.

Avoid trickling down the slope of the fairway toward the bunker because you'll have an uphill approach to a green that can be hard to hold

Another option is to play past the bunker to the landing area just in front. This takes good club length and a complete diregard for the danger posed by trees. Although risky, it's worth the risk. The payoff is a short iron into a level green. It's the difference between birdie and par if you execute the drive.

The Approach

From below, this green becomes difficult to reach and hold. You have to err long because of the frontside bunkers so plan on using as much backspin as you can get to come in high and soft.

From over by the trees, it's simply a short iron accuracy contest. The green doesn't wobble very much so you can let it run a little too. You can also throw darts at this green for a nice finishing flourish to the front 9.

Hole 10 - A long "play for par-hope for birdie" Par 4

Drive

How you approach this hole is largely dependent on how much club length you have. The hole is shaped like a lightning bolt with the pin to the left of the tee box, and a jog to the right in the middle. The fairway is protected on both sides by a sea of bunkers.

If you have the club length to carry the bunkers on the right, then this hole just got a lot easier.

The approach to the pin should come from as far to the right as possible to take the greenside bunkers out of play, but you need to carry the fairway bunkers on the right to have that luxury.

If you don't have that length from the tee, hug the right side of the fairway as much as you can without bringing the rough into play. If you land in the 40-50% rough, (or 30-40% first cut) off the tee, your only option to save par is to lay up at the end of the long fairway and hope for an up and down with a 65-80 yard wedge shot.

Approach

If you've carried the right side fairway bunker, you should have a pretty good look at the pin without much danger or elevation change. At this point, it's mid iron target practice. Bump and run is not an option because the green is protected by 40-50% rough, so you'll have to fly it up there and land it softly to hold the green. If you didn't carry the right side bunker you will also have to carry the frontside bunker protecting the green.

Either way, being short (or long) is not an option. For me, I club up and put full backspin on the ball to get as high a ball flight as possible and try to drop it next to the pin. If you can't get that kind of action on the ball, the next best option is to bounce it through the green rather than intentionally hanging it up in the frontside rough. Even though you'll have a downhill chip from the far side, you'll have a much better fairway lie.

The green slopes toward the front and any ball that holds the green short of the pin will have a makeable uphill putt for birdie. Any ball that flies the pin or the green, should be thinking "lag" back.

Hole 11 - A Bulemic, but very birdiable par 4

The Drive

The fairway thins down to a wisp near the landing area, but most players with good club length should be able to carry the skinny portion. If you can't, and your club length and the the wind conditions put your landing area squarely in the middle of the thinnest part of the fairway, don't be a hero. Tee off with a 3W and you still have a decent shot at birdie. The skinny part of the fairway is about 150 yards out, so playing short will still only be a mid iron away from the pin.

If you land in the sand or rough on either side of skinny part, you've obviously not read this walkthrough and I'm done helping you.

The Approach

This is maybe the easiest approach at BPB. You can throw a dart, you can bump and run, or you can land the green and let it release. Whichever shot you feel most confident with is playable here.

The green slopes from back to front and slightly to the left so don't worry about running through the green unless you have a strong tailwind. Just take aim and do your best. Birdies are common here.

Hole 12 - Long Par 4

The Drive

This hole is daunting from the tee. It's a very long par 4 with a dramatic dogleg to the left and a super dangerous glob of bunkers on the inside of the dogleg. With that said, it's not the length of the hole that gets most players in trouble here, it's the placement of the drive.

Most players will be able to carry the dogleg and land in the wide open area just past the bunkers, but that's really not the best place. The best landing area for an easy approach to the green is from the right side of the fairway past the dogleg. This requires good distance control with your driver because if you're too long, you'll end up in the rough on the far side. If you're too short, you'll probably still be in the fairway, but you'll need to throw a dart with a long iron to reach the green, or you'll need to play for the open part of the green and have a long two putt for par.

A tee shot that lands on the right side of the fairway past the dogleg will be rewarded with an open pathway to the green and a decent chance at birdie.

The Approach

As mentioned a moment ago, placement of the drive is most important on this hole. If you're where you should be, on the right side past the dogleg, it's a fairly simple mid to long iron into the green with a good look at the pin.

If you're anywhere else on the fairway, you're looking for par. Don't hunt the pin from the left side of the fairway; there's just not enough green to work with and you'll either get buried in the frontside bunker or bounce right off the far side of the green. The correct shot from this lie is to play for the center of the green and two putt your way out. A long birdie putt is a possibility as the green isn't particularly tricky, but par is a decent score from a less than perfect drive.

If you're in the fairway bunker and you lay up a full shot wedge away, saving par is not that difficult, but avoid running the ball up closer than 50-60 yards because it will be hard to get the golf ball to stick near the pin on your third shot.

Avoid the frontside bunker at all costs! It's very deep and you won't have very much green to work with. What green you do have will be running away from you, so the likelihood of stopping the ball anywhere near the hole is slim. Any approach that ends up in the frontside bunker is an almost automatic bogey. BTW - From the fronside bunker, you'll end up closer to the pin if you land your ball at the hole or longer, than if you land the ball short of the pin. That's because short of the pin, your ball will be landing on the downslope and kick forward. After the pin, it will land on the upslope and roll less!)

Hole 13 - Everybody's favorite Par 5

You will NOT reach this green in two unless you are a L90 Tour Pro with the longest equipment, even then, you won't get an eagle because you won't be anywhere near the pin, so get that thought out of your head and play for birdie!

The Drive

When faced with a long par 5, the natural reaction is to drive the ball as far as it will go. Believe it or not, it's unnecessary on this hole. Safety off the tee should be your primary concern. Just keep it in the fairway and be long enough to reach the landing area short of the bunkers with your second shot. That means you can even use a 3W off the tee with no penalty.

Risking the rough or a hit tree just to gain an extra 10 yards is foolish and a sign of an amateur golfer.

The 2nd and 3rd Shot

As I alluded to in "The Drive", your second shot should end up short of the bunkers protecting the green. That is the best place. Not forward and to the left 30 yards! Let me say it again, placing your second shot further up the fairway and closer to the green, but off to the left is a mistake! Here's why:

The green slopes down toward the bunkers at a very steep angle. Anyone who has been long on their approach here knows how tricky and fast that downhill putt can be. Any approach shot that lands left or right of the pin has a severe and fast break that will most likely miss.

If you squeeze that extra 30 yards out of your second shot and end up in the middle of the fairway, but to the left of the green, your 3rd shot (your approach) will coming at the pin from the side. This means, unless your distance is perfect, you're going to end up with a severely breaking putt for birdie.

If your second shot lands short of the bunkers like it should, your approach to the pin will be straight up hill. This means that if you misjudge the distance to the pin and go short or long, you may have to deal with a very fast or very slow putt for birdie, but you DON'T have a massive break to deal with.

Laying up will result in more birdies than even perfectly executed bombs. I can't stress this enough.

Hole 14 - A Tight-Lie Par 3

The Tee Shot

This is an interesting par 3 that requires a little thought. First of all, the green is below you. This means that the ball will carry a little farther and it will come in at a little steeper angle causing it to roll a little less. This is ideal for a par 3. That's the good news. The bad news is that the pin placement is in the back right corner of the green and protected on three sides by danger. Any shot that's long, short, or right is going to have a difficult up and down for par.

Here's some more bad news: The green looks like it's hanging out to dry on a clothesline. There's a ridge through the middle with the front two thirds of the green sloping toward you and the back third fairly level. The pin is just past the ridgeline on the part that's fairly level.

The only real shot at birdie here is a high shot that lands pin high. Anything left and short of the hole is going to have a vicious break. Anything short is going to be hard to judge the speed since the putt levels out after the ridge. Anything right is in the bunker. Anything long has a downhill hill putt that, if you hit too hard, can wind up 20' past.

Starting to get the idea? Throw a dart and be accurate. Everywhere else sucks.

If you end up in the bunker, par is still salvageable, but it's not easy. The bunker is deep and you'll need a very high shot to get out without running off the green. Use a full swing (the highest shot) and your shortest wedge. Put full backspin on the ball (it will help control the roll and give you more loft) and play it at twice the actual distance. You should be able to stop within 4 or 5 yards past the hole.

A riskier play, but still an option, is trying to use the greenside rough to slow down your out. The danger is getting hung up in the rough which makes par almost impossible.

Hole 15 - The Carnival Ride Par 4

The Drive

Grip it and Rip it. Just keep it in the fairway. The longer your drive, the more likely you are to have good placement from the frontside rough for an up and down for par.

The 2nd shot

Normally, the 2nd shot on a par 4 is the approach to the green. Not so much on this hole.

I will gladly listen to alternatives for this hole because I'm not so sure I play this one correctly, but here goes anyway:

I rarely bogey this hole, but I never birdie it. I play my second shot for the frontside rough. The ideal second shot is as close to the green as possible, but I never actually reach it. With the green 30'-40' above and 180 yards away, this is a full 225 yard 3W with full backspin (to give it more loft) that usually leaves me 5-10 yards short and in 40-50% rough.

Believe it or not, that's just about perfect for me.

The 3rd Shot - The Carnival Shot

We've all seen this green before. A green so steep at it's front side that it requires crampons and an ice axe to scale. From 12 yards away from the pin, I don't even think about this shot anymore. Aim left of the pin about 3', hit a 22 yard pitch shot with full backspin. The ball will fly about pin high then roll another 3 or 4 yards. That's when it reaches the steepest part of the green and starts its U-turn back down the hill. Leave the pin in the hole and you might get lucky and the ball will hit it like a backstop leaving only a tap in par. Most likely, you'll come back another 3 or 4 feet for a not-too-tricky uphill par putt (see replay #9 BPB 15)

Good luck.

Hole 16

The Drive

Wanna set your personal record for a long drive? This is the hole for you. With the fairway 50'+ below you, you can hit your tee shot, get up and make a sandwich, come back to the computer and the ball will still be in the air. With a tailwind, put about 1/4 backspin on the ball to give it more time aloft without compromising the roll too much - You won't get much roll anyway because the elevation change will bring the ball down to Earth at such a steep angle.

Play for the left side of the fairway. The green takes a hard right turn and you still won't have a look at the pin, but playing to the left does help take the greenside bunker out of play.

The Approach

If you have high lofted clubs and can throw a dart with your mid irons, this is a birdiable par 4. The ball wants to run off the backside of the hard green so control your roll more than you think you need to. With crappy clubs, it might be better to bump and run up the open alley toward the green left of the pin. With good distance control, it's a pretty easy two putt for par.

Hole 17 - A mid to long iron - well protected par 3

The Tee Shot

At 182 yards from the Tour Master tees, and my rather short irons, I may not give very good advice for this hole since I'm playing it with a 3i or 4i depending on the wind.

The green is raised 5' so expect the ball to run more than usual, but you can't play short because of the frontside bunkers. The most likely outcome is landing in the far side rough. From there it's a relatively easy pitch to save par.

For shots that land in the bunker, use a flop at about 1-1/2 times the distance, full backspin, and only aim half as far left as you normally would for a flop shot (the sand will mute the rightward squirt of the golf ball).

Once you're on the dance floor putting is straight forward.

Hole 18 - A short, but difficult (and easy) Par 4

The Drive

If you're prone to wild drives, club down to a 3W. You'll still have a wedge or short iron into the green for an easy par and possible birdie and you take the bogey-making bunkers out of play. If you can hit your driver accurately, get it as far up the fairway as possible and you'll have a good shot at birdie.

The Approach

This is the dangerous shot. You don't want to be in the frontside bunkers. Everything else is easily salvaged.

From the fairway, the hole is probably 15'-20' above you, so this means you need a high shot and a little more club to get there. For a 100 yard shot, play it like 110 and put full backspin on the ball. This will give you more loft and help controll the roll out.

Any shot that comes to rest within 5 yards of the pin is a makable birdie putt, though approaches that are long will have a pretty severe downhill putt to contend with.

Congressional CC Course Walk Through Back 9

Hole 10

A long iron par 3 downhill and over water.

The further back your tee, the greater the elevation change. From the front tees, it's 156 yards and 18' down. From the legend tees, it's 208 yards and 27' down. How you approach this tee shot depends on your clubs and the wind.

With zero wind and full backspin to maximize carry, your ball will carry more than your club's stated yardage, but how much more will depend on your club choice. From 208 yards with no wind, I would like to hit a 200 yard 3i with full backspin. Unfortunately, my 3i is only rated for 195 yards which will leave me in the rough perilously close to the water's edge. Because I don't carry a hybrid, I'm forced to choke down on a 3w which is not a good substitute and usually results in over-shooting the pin by 5-10 yards.

With a headwind or tailwind, this hole becomes easier for me personally. With a 10 mph+ tailwind, I know I can reach the green with a 3i. With a 10 mph headwind, I play a 3w, full backspin, and use the meter as if there were no loss or gain of yardage.

The green has a ridge just past the hole that separates the green into the upper back half and lower front half. Putts from the upper half hit the downslope, pick up speed, and generally roll right past the hole. If I was given the choice to putt from up top or chip from the rough below the hole, I would pick the rough every time.

The ridge can be used to your benefit too. If you faceplant your tee shot into the ridge, you can get it to roll back toward the hole leaving a fast, but makeable 6'-8' putt for birdie. The nice thing about the ridge is, no matter where you miss (right or left), the semi-circular ridge will funnel the ball toward the hole (see my replay "CCC 10 approach" for an example of this shot).

Anything on the green and below the hole is good birdie opportunity.

Hole 11

A long par 4 to an uphill green. Very few birdies here, but not impossible.

With the fairway below you 20+ feet, a tailwind and judicious backspin to get the ball up in the air, you can hit some pretty impressive drives here, which is good because it's more than 500 yards from the tips. If you have a headwind here, reaching the green in regulation is a challenge.

For the best look at the pin, try to land your drive on the left side of the fairway.

The Approach.

This is the money shot on this hole. It's probably a long iron or a fairway wood to a pin that is 20' above you and protected by water on the right and bunkers on the left. The choice is whether to fly the ball to the hole or bump and run. The bump and run is the safer shot and can get close, but involves a fair amount of luck.

Flying the ball to the hole will require full backspin to have any sort of bite on this elevated green. Adding backspin on a long iron shot so close to the water is risky. The slightest mishit right can cost you a stroke, The pin is also at the back of the green where it slopes away from you, so even a dinged shot is likely to roll off the back side into the rough.

For the bump and run, try to run it up the middle of the green. The overall left to right slope of the green will pull the ball toward the hole. The nice thing about the bump and run is that it doesn't require spin, which means slight mishits are not the end of the world. The green will forgive rolling shots that miss a little left. Rolling shots that miss a little right will probably get hung up in the rough before hitting the water, and sometimes they will even follow the right hand border of the green and funnel back toward the pin.

All in all, running the ball up the fairway on your approach is a much better chance at a rare birdie here.

From the backside rough.

A disproportion number of approaches will end up 7-10 yards behind the pin in the rough. This is an entirely makeable chip shot. The key to holing this shot is speed control. From behind the pin, it's a very fast trip to the pin and it breaks from right to left. I prefer a pitch with full backspin, and then play it about 75% power of what I would normally hit at this distance. You might end up a little short, but a tap in par is a good score on this hole.

Hole 12

This is a driver - mid iron hole for many, but it's one of the few good birdie chances at CCC. The key to a good score on this hole is an accurate drive.

Depending on your clubs and tee box, you will either be playing to fly the dogleg or hug the left side at the bend. What gets most players in trouble here is the bunker on the right past the dogleg (unlikely from the tips), or the rough on the left short of the dogleg. The back tees are 20' above the fairway, so you can plan on some extra carry here. From the forward tees, the fairway is almost level. From that perspective, this hole is a bit of an equalizer between the tiers.

The Approach

The pin is protected on the right by a large bunker. If you end up in the bunker, you are looking at bogey for sure and possibly double bogey. There is simply no way to get out of the sand and end up anywhere near the pin. With that said, there is absolutely no reason why the bunker should even come in to play.

The green slopes uphill from the fairway and generally breaks from left to right. The correct approach is to fly the ball most of the way and plan to land the ball on the left side of the pin to keep the bunker out of play. If the ball releases at all, it will release toward the hole.

Landing the ball short and right will also cause it to trickle toward the hole, but not with any control as it means rolling down a steep slope, and you have to flirt with the bunker. It's a bad decision.

The common mistake is under-clubbing this approach. From the numbers, it seems like a straight forward approach, but the steep uphill slope of the green usually causes mid irons to stop short of the hole. Play this one 3-5% longer than you think.

Left or right of the pin will mean a breaking putt, but putts from the left side of the pin will be level or uphill.

Hole 13

Uphill par 3

With the frontside pin, this hole gives you a lot of opportunity for birdie, but there are some factors to take into account.

The upslope of the green and the raised elevation causes most tee shots to be short. Play this hole about 5% longer than the stated yardage to reach the pin. However, being short on this par 3 will leave a makeable putt of chip back up the hill.

Don't be long! Be on line! Tee shots that are long or off line will have to deal with a fast putt, a hard breaking putt, or both.

Hole 14

A difficult from start to finish downhill-uphill-downhill par 4.

The tee shot here may require a 3w. The fairway thins down to a toothpick in the middle, so if you have the club length to get to the skinny part, a wise golfer will club down rather than risk an approach to this green from 30-40% rough. Bear in mind the elevation of the fairway which will cause your tee shot to carry far.

The Approach

From just short of fairway corset, you'll have a 170 to 190 yard approach to to a green that is raised 25' or more. Pretend the green is level with you. Seriously.

The bump and run, five yards left of the hole, will roll right up the green and gently arc to the right toward the pin. If the pin is 185 yards away, play it with your 185 yard club with no action on the ball. This is one of those rare holes where less is more. No backspin, no topspin, no clubbing up or down, just aim a little left and roll it up there, it will consistently get closer than you think.

The only exception to the above paragraph is dealing with headwinds and tailwinds, adjust your club or power accordingly, but still play a centerball bump and run.

If you get your yardage right, you should roll right up the rise in the green just short of the pin. Even though you'll end up with a fast downhill putt, if you make a mistake on this approach, make it a little long. Usually being below the hole is preferable, but this hole is the exception. The ridge immediately below the hole makes misjudging the speed of the uphill putt a real possibility. I would rather have a 20' putt that's 3" downhill than a 25' putt that's 15" uphill.

Hole 15

A lay up par 4.

A lot of other players will disagree with my management of this hole, but to me, a par on this hole is like getting 1/2 a stroke on the rest of the field.

I don't care about my drive because I'm going to lay up at the end of the fairway left of the bunkers. I'm might hit a 3w if there are tricky winds to deal with, or a centerball drive in light winds, but there's absolutely no reason to risk putting it in the rough off of this tee.

My lay up is usually a mid to long iron up the throat of the fairway to 20 yards short of the green. The worst outcome is over hitting the lay up and trickling onto the edge of the green for a 100'+ hard breaking putt. From my fairway lie, I have a full wedge to the pin and I virtually assure myself of par, (see my replay "CCC 15 approach").

That's how I play it.

Regardless of how good or bad your tee shot is, most players will go for the pin on their approach (By the way, when playing in an AS match on CCC back 9, I will opt to tee off first simply to have the approach shot on this hole. Par is almost always a win on this hole), if you go for the hole, the elevation of the green will assure you won't hold the green and will either be short and in the frontside bunker or long and in the thick rough chipping downhill to the pin. All things considered, I'd rather be long here.

Hole 16

At 515 yards from the red tees and 569 from the black, this hole is pretty much unreachable in two. With a helping tailwind and two well struck shots, I'm usually still outside of my preferred distance for wedge accuracy, but I'm a short hitter so for most, I'd guess that there's a real danger of ending up in that undesirable 30 yard range to the pin.

Play your second shot to set up your third shot. If your best wedge distance is 50 yards, try to leave it at 45 out (the upslope of the fairway causes a lot of approaches to be shorter than expected). Don't just hit without thinking. Plan for your ideal shot. There aren't many opportunities to wedge and putt for birdie, don't waste this one.

If you're planning on drawing the ball back to the hole with backspin, be careful not to fly the green. There's not much room behind the back pin location.

Hole 17

Another difficult par 4.

You have to add backspin! The fairway is above you in the landing area then downhill in the rolling out area, also, there is another pitcher spout at the end of this fairway. If you don't put backspin on the ball, the drive's low angle of impact when it hits the fairway is going to make it run far. When the downslope kicks in, your ball will keep running until it is effectively slowed down by the 40% rough. It's better to be short and hitting form the short grass.

The Approach.

Like the first hole at BPB, this hole plays long. There's no reason for it; the hole is below you and the green isn't on big upslope. Still, a 165 iron, with no wind, only goes 155-160 here, so add some power and plan to land the ball a little left of the pin and it should trickle toward the hole.

Hole 18

From the tips, this is a 520 yard par 4.

The tee shot here is a lot of fun. The fairway is below you so, right away, you're going to get some extra distance. The fairway also slopes away from you so that's going to add some roll. Throw a tailwind into the mix and you could be looking at a 320-330 yard drive. But it's not that simple...

Most hitters will try to cut the corner of the slight dogleg left to get a few more yards out of their drive. This is short sighted.

Playing to the right side of the fairway greatly diminishes the threat of getting wet on your approach. Still, 80% of the time, I watch my opponent fly over water to reach the pin. The right side doesn't take it out of play, but it does give you the option of laying up on the green and still getting to the lower portion,

(see my replay "CCC 18 green lay up". In this replay, from view #2, you can see how the overall slope of the green will run the ball from the back right side to the front left, with a little more roll, this is a birdie opportunity).

Unless the wind is strong and in your face, you will most likely need to club down because the green will be 30'-35' below you.

BULLETIN 3

MGroza
219 Posts Mon, Mar 20 2017 4:15 PM

Thank you MCA its excellent job you due week bye week I always try follow the club forum but too many too read some times I missed some now whit your bulletin I only need read 1 Thank you for your hard work
MG
Mca19670
357 Posts Mon, Mar 20 2017 5:59 PM

Thanks Miklos.By the way my answer for the poll this week is maybes AYE.
DufferJohn7
682 Posts Tue, Mar 21 2017 12:08 AM

Martin,
Excellent job on issue #3, it just keeps getting better.
Thank you for the Chuck Berry salute, a pioneer of rock and roll with true blues roots. He was a bit before my time but I'm still a blues rock and roll fan. At one time I was part of the Clapton is god cult. LOL
I'm going to brag, I had a big personal achievement in the Week 10 Free Multiround Kiahwah F9, Pinehurst #2 B9. I shot a 29+32=61 for a ninth place tie. My first top 10 finish since turning Legend. It only took 11 months! This Legend tier is almost as tough as our CC tournaments. In TWTW2 I posted a 28 and finished third!
On this week's poll I'm a maybe aye.
Keep up the good work, have fun and hit 'em straight,
John
Mca19670
357 Posts Tue, Mar 21 2017 1:58 AM

Cheers John. Might throw in a bit of Clapton in the coming weeks.
Martin
kishoph
780 Posts Tue, Mar 21 2017 3:41 AM

Thanks Martin, as usual top notch job.
JimQ916
4,644 Posts Tue, Mar 21 2017 7:20 AM

Great job once again Martin. My answer to the poll is AYE!!! Every 4 weeks would be much better, but WGT is not gonna change anywhere in the near future....it's a dump truck full of cash for them every time it's played (Passes / Balls)....Jim
Mca19670
357 Posts Tue, Mar 21 2017 1:36 PM

Cheers guys and thanks Jim for answering the poll in the proper way. Lol
dschom5
1,061 Posts Tue, Mar 21 2017 5:42 PM

Another fine post, nice job, Aye to every 4 weeks for cc vs cc. It's an Albatross if you talk too the pro's. Thanks for the bulletin Martin.

Turd
Mca19670
357 Posts Tue, Mar 21 2017 5:48 PM

Just realised there Gene when I played the tournament that your HIO was at the 8th and not the 2nd. Sorry mate.
Cheers Turd. Just watched your HIO there also. Very nice.
Textor
56 Posts Tue, Mar 21 2017 6:53 PM

It just keeps on improving. Every week is better than the one before. I love it!
Maybe Aye. I spend $20 a week on balls. They should be pleased.
Textor
Mca19670
357 Posts Wed, Mar 22 2017 6:34 AM

Thanks Textor, but where's the answers to the quiz questions. Are they to difficult for you this week. Lol
JimQ916
4,644 Posts Wed, Mar 22 2017 7:10 AM

I'm so tempted to google the quiz questions but not going to in the spirit of the quiz. I don't know the answers to any of these, but on the 1st question (T or F), I'll say false. I have a 50 - 50 shot at being correct though (lol).
pdb1
14,597 Posts Wed, Mar 22 2017 7:41 AM
Mca19670:
This week saw WGT start Turf Wars

if anyone knows or thinks they know what its all about, well you should be working for NASA.

You got that right .
Mca19670:
Kotyskellys She aint doing no one any harm

Right again .

Mca19670:
JCM51s HIO at St.Andys tournament, the one that runs along with this bulletin was won by Dscholm5, although Jtcooki shot the same score so I'm calling that a tie. Lol.
'Cause you got it like that .

Mca19670:
we had 4 ins. Big welcome to Doveruk, DirtyDuffer, and 2 new ladies MelissaNJohnson and Ladyfromdallas. Hope you all have fun playing in the sun.
Very good week . GR8 new players .
Mca19670:
ROUND OF THE WEEK-- Got to give this to CoryGRobinson who shot a 10 under 25 at Chambers Bay, 7 shots ahead of the nearest contender at the time of writing this. Superb.
Incredible Cory .
Mca19670:
So shot of the week goes to Kishoph for this 152 yd beauty at Bandons 2nd hole.
Nice Gene .

Mca19670:
MEMBER V MEMBER-- Pdb1 and Ladyfromdallas
Lots of fun Lynn .

Mca19670:
American golf balls have 336 dimples on their surface, while British golf balls have 330.

The term used to be " off by one " . Now we're " off by six " .
Mca19670:
1969. John Lennon and Yoko Ono marry in Gibraltar.
Lovely .

Mca19670:
POLL-- Should CC clashes be every 4 weeks rather than every 2 weeks. Maybees Aye or Maybees Naw.
AYE .
Mca19670:
DufferJohn and Textor asked if we could pay tribute to a legend that sadly passed away this week. So heres a video of the great Chuck Berry in action.

May the man that started and revolutionized Rock and Roll . Memories live on forever .
Mca19670:
That's it for another week folks. Keep up the request
My request . Keep up " The Week That Was " !
Very enjoyable . Well done . Fantastic addition to the SUN .
Thank you Martin .
Paul
Textor
56 Posts Wed, Mar 22 2017 8:05 AM

Yeah, they're too difficult. I've spent the last 3 days in the hospital taking care of my brother. (He's fine. I took him home yesterday.) This explains my limited play this week, and my terse response yesterday. Besides, I thought I'd give someone else a chance. If no one answers the quiz in the next few days, I will. Now, it's back to work.
Textor.

CC TOURNEY WINNERS JAN 2017

CoryGRobinson 26

dschom5 16

paulleftpaul 6

TwinDaddy129 5

Schoitz 3

Jtcooki 3

kishoph 3

donnymac3 3

jcm51 2

kekanaranjo 2

pdb1 2

ROBERT744 1

robsalascr 1

nansting17 1

UfferJohn7 1

31 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Pinehurst #2 B9 (Easy / Low / Torn).

31 Jan

jcm51 came in first place in Pinehurst #2 F9 (Easy / Low / Torn).

29 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in Arnies 2017 New year tour No 4 Best of Famous.

29 Jan

paulleftypaul came in first place in Arnies Lower your average 2017 No 1.

29 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Chambers Bay B9 Medium / Moderate / Torn.

29 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Chambers Bay F9 Medium / Moderate / Torn.

28 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Bracket Tournament #106 (Stroke Play).

28 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in January Challenge, Oakmont, TM-TC.

28 Jan

nansting17 came in first place in January Challenge, Oakmont, H-TM.

28 Jan

paulleftypaul came in first place in Brandon Full 18 (Default / Moderate / VF).

28 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in VOTSCC Members Only 2 F9 / B9 (Default / Torn).

27 Jan

Jtcooki came in first place in Oakmont F9 / B9 (Easy / Low / Torn)...Throw in a D.

26 Jan

pdb1 came in first place in KICK ASS 2 ROUNDER #10 SEASON 5.

26 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in BO Par 4's B9 (Easy / Low / Torn).

26 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in BO Par 4's F9 (Easy / Low / Torn).

26 Jan

TwinDaddy129 came in first place in Master Bracket 18H 100CR.

23 Jan

SChoitz came in first place in Arnies 2017 New year tour no 3 Bandon.

23 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Merion B9 (Front / Moderate / Torrn).

23 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in Kiawah B9 (Default / Moderate / Champ).

23 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in BO Par 5's F9 / B9 (Default / Moderate / Torn).

22 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in Hardest Holes B9 (Easy Tees /.

22 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Hardest Holes F9 (Easy / Moderate / Torny).

20 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Custon Built 4 Rounder.

20 Jan

SChoitz came in first place in VOTSCC KICK ASS CTTH 2 ROUNDERS # 9.

19 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in Bracket Tournament #105 (Stroke Play).

19 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Kiawah B9 (Default / Moderate / Champ).

18 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in Famous Holes B9 (Easy / Low / VF).

18 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in Famous Holes F9 (eas/ Low/ VF).

18 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in Famous Holes F9 (Front / Low/ VF).

17 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Pebble F9 / B9 Tiered TM - C (Default / Low / Torn.

17 Jan

Davemuck63 came in first place in Pebble F9 / B9 Tiered H - M (Default / Low / VF).

17 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in BO Par 3's F9 / B9 (Random Set Up).

16 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Arnies 2017 New year tour no 3 Bandon.

16 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in Merion F9 / B9 (Default / Low / Torn).

15 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in Arnies New year tour No 2 Best of Hardest.

14 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Sun Goes Down.

14 Jan

pdb1 came in first place in Sun Comes Up.

13 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Congressional B9 (Front / Moderate / Champ).

13 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Congressional F9 (Front / Moderate / Champ).

12 Jan

Jtcooki came in first place in Oakmont B9 (Front / Moderate / VF).

12 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Oakmont F9 (Front / Moderate / VF).

12 Jan

donnymac3 came in first place in Olympic B9 (Easy / VF)...Throw in a Dime.

12 Jan

donnymac3 came in first place in Olympic F9 (Easy / VF)...Throw in a Dime.

11 Jan

donnymac3 came in first place in BethPage is an Easy Nickle.

11 Jan

paulleftypaul came in first place in St. George B9 (Default / Low / Torn).

11 Jan

paulleftypaul came in first place in St. George F9 (Default / Low / Torn).

10 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in Easy Peasy Arnies Seasonal Lower your average.

08 Jan

SChoitz came in first place in Kiawah B9 (Default / Champ).

08 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Kiawah F9 (Default / Champ).

08 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Arnies 18 hole New year tour No 1 Chambers bay.

07 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Bracket Tournament #103 (Stroke Play).

07 Jan

paulleftypaul came in first place in St. Andy's B9 (Front / Torn).

07 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in St. Andy's F9 (Front / Torn).

07 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in BO Par 4's B9 (Default / Torn).

07 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in BO Par 4's F9 (Default / Torn).

06 Jan

paulleftypaul came in first place in VOTSCC Members Only 1 B9 (Default / Torn).

06 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in VOTSCC Members Only 1 F9 (Default / Torn).

06 Jan

kishoph came in first place in Famous Holes F9 / B9 TM - C (Default / Heavy / Tor.

06 Jan

ROBERT744 came in first place in Famous Holes F9 / B9 H - M (Default / Moderate / V.

05 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Brandon B9 (Default / VF)...Throw in a Dime.

05 Jan

kishoph came in first place in Brandon F9 (Default / VF)...Throw in a Dime.

04 Jan

TwinDaddy129 came in first place in Master Bracket 18H 100CR.

04 Jan

kishoph came in first place in Par 5's F9 / B9 TM - C (Medium / Moderate / Torn)..

03 Jan

pdb1 came in first place in VKA CTTH 2 ROUNDER EDGEWOOD & HILVERS.

03 Jan

TwinDaddy129 came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket Tournament .

03 Jan

TwinDaddy129 came in first place in Master 9 Hole Bracket Free.

03 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Paul's Set Up B9 (Bethpage Reverse) (Easy / Torn)

03 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Paul's Set Up 1 (Bethpage Reverse) (Easy / Torn).

02 Jan

TwinDaddy129 came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket Tournament .

02 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in Oakmont B9 (Default / Low / Torn).

02 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in Oakmont F9 (Default / Low / Torn).

01 Jan

DufferJohn7 came in first place in VOTSCC KICK ASS CTTH BRACKERTS # 54.

01 Jan

jcm51 came in first place in Merion B9 (Front / Moderate / VF).

01 Jan

Jtcooki came in first place in Merion F9 (Front / Moderate / VF).

01 Jan

kekanaranjo came in first place in Bracket Tournament #102 (Stroke Play).

01 Jan

kekanaranjo came in first place in Bethpage B9 /B9 (Front / Moderate / Torn).

01 Jan
robsalascr came in first place in Pinehurst #2 F9 / B9 H - M (Easy / Low / Tournamen.

CC TOURNEY WINNERS DECEMBER 2016

CC TOURNEY WINNERS NOVEMBER 2016

WGT National Enquirer - Top 10 Toy List Fri, Dec 13 2013 4:02 PM

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With the biggest shopping day of the year just around the corner, the WGT National Enquirer staff has scoured the local toy stores to make it easier to shop for your WGT addicted loved ones. After days and weeks of hair pulling and heart wrenching decision making, here are the top 10 WGT-related toys to gift.

#10 Mr. Potato Head - WGT Edition

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Our own loveable WGTIcon comes to life as Mr. Potato Head in this special WGT edition of a classic for all ages!!

#9 Red Rider BolloxinBruges BB Gun

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One of the all-time greatest young boy's Christmas gifts is a Red Ryder BB gun! The new BolloxinBruges Special edition will teach your youngster to be a straight shooter just like Bollie!

#8 Dr. Jedi's Medical Kit

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The perfect role model for your children, Dr. Jedi has helped thousands with their problems on wgt.com. What better way to teach your kids how to give a shot?

#7 Tickle Me Esssy

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This WGT Special Edition features lots of lols lol, Tickle his ribs and he'll say the most amazing things only he can understand! lol

#6 MrWGT's Monopoly

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Be an entrepreneur like MrWGT! Play the new (coming soon) Monopoly Challenge on wgt.com using your credits not Monopoly money. Of course, WGT gets a 20% rake on all credit transactions.

#5 YANCYCAN'S WHAC-A-MOLE!

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Bop them moles!! Help our good friend and fellow WGTer Yancy clear those pesky moles out of his Par 2 & 1/2 golf course with this WGT Special Edition Whac-A-Mole game!

#4 LizzieRossetti's Silly Putting Ball

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Great stocking stuffers!! If you've seen Lizzie putt you know how hysterical it can be (it isn't her fault)! Now you can "Putt Like Lizzie" with this goofy ball made from the amazing world renown substance known to everyone as Silly Putty.

#3 Gift Certificates to WGT's New Driving Range

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Gift certificates for a bucket of balls at the new WGT Driving range (coming soon in December, 2018!) are a welcome gift for any WGTer! Watch them practice hitting balls into Lake Tibbets and hear the squeals of laughter that it wasn't their own Callaway. (Add the YankeeJim blindfold from the WGT pro shop and they can learn how to hit by feel!)

#2 Plush Toy renniw52

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We've all played with Ren on wgt.com, now we can play with him at home! This 8" tall squirrel plush toy is handcrafted by artisans and has amazing attention to detail. Nuts are included.

And the Number One WGT National Enquirer recommended gift is!!

#1 WGT Transformers - Legend to Master

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Our most popular game. Use your Legend skills from the Master tees in WGT.com challenge and ready go competitions and amass millions in credits. Up to 10 accounts are available. Also available in Legend to Pro and Legend to Tour Pro.

Happy shopping everyone!

CC TOURNEY WINNERS AUGUST 2016

CoryGRobinson 20

dschom5 18

kishoph 10

paulleftypaul 4

Jtcooki 2

mrgain 2

wishman51 2

kekanaranjo 2

DufferJohn7 2

Mca19670 2

donnymac3 2

Dude878 1

Speakgeek 1

pdb1 1

MarkArentsen175 1

I usually don't even record the wins by players no longer in the CC . Sometimes I do . In case anyone is wondering . Irisheyez5 won an incredible 15 tourneys in the short time he was here .

31 Aug

CoryGRobinson came in first place in SHAMROCK SHOOTOUT BRACKET.

30 Aug

CoryGRobinson came in first place in VKA SKILLS 4 WOLF CREEK.

30 Aug

CoryGRobinson came in first place in VKA SKILLS 4 B O BANDON.

30 Aug

MarkArentsen175 came in first place in Master 9 Hole Speed Bracket Free

30 Aug

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Pinehurst F9 / B9 Default Tees.

30 Aug

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Pinehurst F9 Default Tees.

29 Aug

dschom5 came in first place in Famous Holes B9 L - C Front Tees.

29 Aug

mrgain came in first place in Famous Holes B9 H -TM Front Tees.

29 Aug

dschom5 came in first place in Bethpage F9 / B9 L - C Default Tees / Tournament G.

29 Aug

Ali513 came in first place in Bethpage F9 / B9 H - TM Default Tees / VF Greens

28 Aug

dschom5 came in first place in Arnies 2016 Fall Tour CNo 2 Best of Hardest.

28 Aug

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket Tournament .

27 Aug

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket Tournament

27 Aug

donnymac3 came in first place in Arnies 3rd Get your Average Down No 1 St Andrews

27 Aug

dschom5 came in first place in Chambers Bay F9 / B9 Front Tees / Torn Greens TM -.

27 Aug

Speakgeek came in first place in Chambers Bay F9 / B9 Front Tees / Fast Greens H - .

26 Aug

DufferJohn7 came in first place in Bracket Tournament #82 Over the Pond.

25 Aug

dschom5 came in first place in Merion B9 Front Tees / VF Greens.

25 Aug

dschom5 came in first place in Merion F9 Front Tees / VF Greens.

25 Aug

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Kelly's Kooky Klassic at Kiawah

24 Aug

irisheyez5 came in first place in Kiawah Island B9 Front Tee's...Throw in a Dime.

24 Aug

irisheyez5 came in first place in Kiawah Island F9 Front Tee's...Throw in a Dime.

24 Aug

irisheyez5 came in first place in Oakmont B9 Front Tee's...Throw in a Dime.

24 Aug

irisheyez5 came in first place in Oakmont F9 Front Tee's...Throw in a Dime.

24 Aug

dschom5 came in first place in Pinehurst #2 F9 Random Set Up.

24 Aug

CoryGRobinson came in first place in SKILLS CTTH's 3 VALHALLA.

24 Aug

kishoph came in first place in SKILLS CTTH's 3 BALI HAI.

23 Aug

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Pebble Beach F9 / B9 Default Tee's / Champ Greens.

20 Aug

kishoph came in first place in SKILLS CTTH's 3 ST ANDY BK 9.

20 Aug

pdb1 came in first place in SKILLS CTTH's 3 ST ANDY FR 9.

20 Aug

dschom5 came in first place in Arnies 2016 Fall Tour No 1 Chambers Bay

20 Aug

irisheyez5 came in first place in BO Hardest Holes Made Easy B9 Front Tees.

20 Aug

irisheyez5 came in first place in BO Hardest Holes Made Easy F9 Front Tees.

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19 Aug

Mca19670 came in first place in Pinehurst B9 Lower Tier H - M Front Tees / VF Gree.

18 Aug

wishman51 came in first place in BO Famous Holes F9 Default Tees.

17 Aug

irisheyez5 came in first place in VOTSCC CTTH BRACKET # 41

17 Aug

paulleftypaul came in first place in BLACK FOR FUN.

17 Aug

irisheyez5 came in first place in Bethpage Black F9 Front Tees..10 Credits to Enter.

17 Aug

irisheyez5 came in first place in Kiawah Island B9 Easy Tee's...A DIME TO PLAY!!!.

17 Aug

irisheyez5 came in first place in Kiawah Island F9 Easy Tee's...A DIME TO PLAY!!!.

17 Aug

dschom5 came in first place in Bracket Tournament #81 has been set up.

16 Aug

Dude878 came in first place in Wk 32 Oakmont Nation 9 Hole Single

15 Aug

donnymac3 came in first place in Bethpage Black F9 Front Tees.

15 Aug

kishoph came in first place in Congressional B9 Default Tee's.

15 Aug

irisheyez5 came in first place in Congressional F9 Default Tee's

14 Aug

irisheyez5 came in first place in Oakmont B9 Deafault Front Tee's

14 Aug

kekanaranjo came in first place in Arnies Get your average down St Georges

13 Aug

dschom5 came in first place in St. Andrews F9 / B9 Default Tees / Upper Tier TM -.

13 Aug

Mca19670 came in first place in St. Andrews F9 / B9 Default Tees / Lower Tier H -

13 Aug

irisheyez5 came in first place in Arnies Spring Tour 2016 No 17 St Andrews

13 Aug

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket Tournament

12 Aug

irisheyez5 came in first place in SKILLS CTTH's 3 PINEHURST # 2 BK 9.

12 Aug

irisheyez5 came in first place in SKILLS CTTH's 3 PINEHURST # 2 FR 9.

12 Aug

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket Tournament

12 Aug

paulleftypaul came in first place in FAMOUS OR FUN ?.

12 Aug

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket Tournament .

12 Aug

dschom5 came in first place in Pebble Beach F9 / B9 Front Tees

10 Aug

irisheyez5 came in first place in Chambers Bay B9 Easy Tees...A Dime to Play.

10 Aug

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Chambers Bay F9 Easy Tees...A Dime to Play

09 Aug

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Pinehurst #2 Default Tees.

09 Aug

dschom5 came in first place in Olympic B9 Default Tees.

09 Aug

CoryGRobinson came in first place in SKILLS CTTH's 3 P B GROUP 2.

09 Aug

paulleftypaul came in first place in SKILLS CTTH's 3 P B GROUP 1

08 Aug

kishoph came in first place in BO Par 3's B9 Easy Tees...A Dime to Play.

08 Aug

kishoph came in first place in BO Par 3's F9 Easy Tees...A Dime to Play.

08 Aug

kishoph came in first place in KICK ASS CTTH BRACKETS 2.

07 Aug

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Bracket Tournament #80 (Stroke Play).

07 Aug

DufferJohn7 came in first place in Week 32 18 Hole Fun.

07 Aug

kekanaranjo came in first place in Arnies Springl Tour No 16 St Georges.

06 Aug

dschom5 came in first place in Famous Holes F9 / B9 Default Tee's Upper Tier L - .

06 Aug

wishman51 came in first place in Famous Holes F9 / B9 Default Tee's Lower Tier H -

06 Aug

kishoph came in first place in SKILLS CTTH's 3 OLY BK 9.

06 Aug

paulleftypaul came in first place in SKILLS CTTH's 3 OLY FR 9.

04 Aug

dschom5 came in first place in BO Par 4's B9 Default Tees Upper Tier L - C.

04 Aug

mrgain came in first place in BO Par 4's B9 Default Tees Lower Tier H - TM

04 Aug

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Tierless Pebble Beach Bracket 18H Free.

03 Aug

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket Tournament .

03 Aug

Jtcooki came in first place in Congressional B9 Easy Tees...A Dime to Play.

03 Aug

Jtcooki came in first place in Congressional F9 Easy Tees...A Dime to Play.

03 Aug

dschom5 came in first place in Merion B9 Front Tees.

03 Aug

dschom5 came in first place in Merion F9 Front Tees.

03 Aug

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Bracket Tournament #79.

02 Aug

dschom5 came in first place in ST. Andy's F9 - B9 / Default Tee's L - C.

01 Aug

kishoph came in first place in SKILLS CTTH's 3 OAKMONT FR 9.

01 Aug

kishoph came in first place in Brandon B9 Easy Tees....A Dime to Play.

01 Aug

kishoph came in first place in Brandon F9 Easy Tees....A Dime to Play.

ROYAL TIPS FROM THE MISTRESSCOSETTE

THE THEORY OF PARALLEL LINES IN PUTTING THE BREAK
The Theory of Parallel Lines that I have also come up with involves looking at the grids from both angles when you putt. Trying to simplify it is very hard. All of it involves the dot flow across the grid to figure break. This is not complete yet, but it seems to work well. As time progresses I will come up with hard numbers to go by, so be patient as you read and try this. It will REALLY improve your putting once you get the distance control down.
I've had an easy time figuring distance as my putting stats have improved due to almost perfect distance control. A few weeks ago, I started leaving tons of 20-30-40 foot putts on the lips for 2-3 inch tap-ins. I knew I was very close in the overall idea of the total package in putting but there was that little part of the overall formula that was missing. It involved the cross-flow of the break.

I found that a 5-second flow across the grid translated to a mean average of double what one of the looks showed in T-12 greens. Many times one look was a perfect straight shot, and the other look might be half a grid, 3/4 of a grid or whatever. I started using that 5-second dot flow and doubling the grid amount of aim to coincide with the look from one end. However, the speed of the green has a tremendous effect on break. The faster the green, the more the dots affect the putt. This makes perfect sense because a "fluffy" green that putts slowly will not affect the ball the way a "pool table" green that is very slick will. Most of my recent experimentation has been done on T-12 tournament greens and the math of it is very close. I have also recently found that a 5-second flow on T-12 greens translates to an aiming point of exactly twice one of the looks and on T-13 greens, it's a 6-second flow for twice one of the looks.

For instance, a half-grid with a 5-6 second flow (I don't time it exactly, I just do 'one-thousand one, one-thousand two, one-thousand three, etc. to estimate the seconds it takes) would translate to doubling the aim. So, that half-grid would translate to a full grid of break. However, uphill putts don't break like downhill putts, and this also has to be taken into consideration.
Uphill putts have to fight gravity, and the impetus you put on a putt changes the amount of break, cutting it down some on uphill putts. I found that most of the time, an uphill putt will break either the exact amount on one figured look or the other with a 5-6 second flow, and downhill putts will break twice as much as figured with a 5-second flow. Also, the shorter the putt, the less chance it has to break, and from 5 feet in, where I have been having the most trouble, I have to either add a bit or subtract a bit to make the putt hit dead-center.
The danger comes in on those short putts from 3-5 feet where you have a serious flow like 4 seconds or less and you want to overcome that break by adding a few percent to the putt. If you miss, it goes WAY by and now you are faced with a testy par or even hairy bogey putt.

I have never been a proponent of going past the hole much, as I like to feather putts from all distances so if I miss, I end up with a tap-in. Some blogs tell you that it's better to go past than to be short, ascribing to the Tom Watson theory of "never up, never in." I agree with that, but ramming or giving a bit too much to overcome break won't help your putting stats or your scores.
I've had a recent breakthrough on this and my scores have come way down, my standings in the recent WGT and club tournaments have been much higher, and I'm starting to drain more putts from distance because of the "forgiveness" that WGT builds in to each putter. The MAX Meter Master putter has a lot of forgiveness, and the increments of 10, 20, 30, 40 on shorter putts allows me to add or subtract parts of percents to putt like I have radar, sonar, and GPS. I used to be very satisfied with 14-15 putts on a nine-hole course, and now I am regularly putting at 11-13 putts for a 9-hole round.

That Theory of Parallel Lines involves looking at the parallel lines when shifting your aimer and many times the line of the flag-stick will end up parallel with your aimer, and at other times it will end up parallel with the one grid outside the flag. This, combined with the 5-6 second rule has made tons of putts from every distance drop for me. It's given me a feel that any putt I step up to I KNOW what the break is even before I look at both the normal and reverse looks. It's become absolutely deadly for me. As a general rule, the slower the greens the less the ball will take the break and I've found that the parallel lines you look at will be a big aid in gauging how much you aim left or right. Rule of Thumb The faster the green, the more break it will take and the slower the green the less break it will take. You'll develop feel with this theory, bet on it.
However, there is no perfect mathematical formula for it yet, but it works. I'm working on a true formula that can be taken to the bank every time. BUT, I'm leaving all my putts from everywhere super-close when I miss or mishit, and a much higher percentage are dropping even when I mishit due to that forgiveness built into the putter.

Try what I've put out in this message and see if it works. I KNOW it's spot-on, I just can't explain it perfectly. However, that 5-second flow is the one I'm concentrating on with T-12 greens, and a faster flow of 4, and 3 seconds seems to translate into 3 times and 4 times the look from one end. You'll see what I mean when you try it. It's amazing. T-13 greens putt to the numbers distance-wise and a 6-second flow for double the aim, and I can't wait to putt them on a regular basis at the Tour Legend tier. Hey...you drive for show and putt for dough. I don't know who said that, but it's so true in regular golf and it's in the program of WGT. Safe putting translates into lower scores, and ramming putts is crazy. Sure, the little short ones and ramming is already covered in my blog, but I am adamant that this Theory of Parallel lines works.

PUTTING EXAMPLES
#1. Distance: 26 ft. Elevation: 4 inches UP Green speed: Very fast green (10) Wind: 15 mph in your face (from the "North") Dot flow: toward you 5 seconds average in the last 2 grids.
Step 1. Add 26 + 4 = 30 (new adjusted distance)
Step 2. Multiply 30 x .9 = 27 feet (new adjusted distance for green speed)
Step 3. Multiply 27 x 93.3% = 25.191 (new adjusted distance for 'touch' factor)
Step 4. Divide 25.191/30 = 83.97% (percentage for 30-foot swing meter) [PUT THIS IN THE MEMORY OF YOUR CALCULATOR]
Step 5. Divide 4/26 = .153846 then multiply this by 10. This is the elevation ratio percentage of add to your shot. It is 1.53846%
Step 6. Add the 1.53846 to your calculator memory. 83.97 + 1.53846 = 85.508461%
Step 7. Multiply the wind factor of .1 x 15 = 1.5% (wind percentage add)
Step 8. Add 1.5% to the total calculation. 85.508461% + 1.5% = 87.008461%
Step 9. Divide dot flow of 5 second by 3 (30-foot swing meter division) 5/3 = 1.666%
Step 10. Add the dot flow to the overall shot. 87.008461% + 1.666% = 88.6474461% (final pull-back for swing meter)
Step 11. Aim
Step 12. Ding the meter.

Example #2 Distance: 15 ft. Elevation drop: 3 in. Green speed: Tournament 12 (12) Wind speed: 8 mph at 45 degrees from the "Northwest" (against you from the left in your face) Dot flow in the last 2 grids: 8 seconds.
Step 1. Subtract 15 - 3 = 12 (new distance)
Step 2. Multiply 12 x .75 = 9 (new adjusted distance for green speed)
Step 3. Multiply 9 x 1.00 = 9 (new adjusted distance for 'touch' factor)
Step 4. Divide 9 by your swing meter. This will vary on putters, so be careful here. My putter has a 10-foot swing meter, and some putters have a lowest swing meter of 15, so the percentage will now vary. I recommend getting a putter with a 10-foot swing meter, because it makes the calculations much easier. However, I used a Ghost Spider putter that had a 15-foot swing meter for the longest time until I got sick of doing ODD calculations, so your putter choice will come into play. For THIS example, I will use MY MAX Meter Control Master Putter. It's FAR easier because it has increments of 10, 20, 30, 40, 60, 80, 100, 200, and 300, which makes for nice even-number calculations. Again..it's YOUR choice on your putter, and whatever floats your boat is fine, but make SURE you divide the new adjusted distance by your swing meter to get the proper percentage. 9/10 = 90% (swing meter pull-back) {STORE THIS IN YOUR CALCULATOR MEMORY}
Step 5. 3/15 = .2 then multiply by 10. .2 x 10 = 2%
Step 5 Take 90% and subtract 2% 90% - 2% = 88% (new adjusted percentage for elevation ratio drop)
Step 6. Multiply wind factor of 8 x .1 = .8
Step 7. Multiply wind angle factor of .707 (sine of 45 degrees) .707 x .8 = .5656%
Step 8. Add .5656% + 88% = 88.5656%
Step 9. Subtract dot flow. 8 seconds is 2%, so 88.5656% - 2% = 86.5656%
Step 10. Aim
Step 11. Ding the meter.

I do all of this in less than 25 - 35 seconds on average, and you can too. Of course, I'm experienced, but once you get the hang of it, you'll fly your fingers over the calculator like it's nothing. The numbers will become so familiar, that you'll know exactly which swing meter to select even before you start your calculations. It's not that hard. It SEEMS hard...so is walking...at first.

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'This blog is published to "help" you, and while I am not Kwai Chang Caine, I know it work

Example #1. 175 yds. 15 ft. UP elevation Ocean course. Wind in your face (dead from the 'north') at 15 mph.

15/175 = 0.08571 (elevation ratio) is 8.571%
15/2 = 7.5 (half the elevation)
7.5 - 8.571% = 6.8571 (true elevation)
175 + 6.8571 = 181.8571 yds. (distance plus true elevation)
15 mph x 75% = 11.25 yds add (ocean course...over 150 yd. shot) [wind multiple is 1.00...no change for angle]
181.8571 + 11.25 = 193.1071 yds. (new adjusted shot for wind)
193.1071 + 4.4% = 201.6038 yds (addition for club angle add for 200-yd. 4-iron)
201.6038/206 = 0.97865 or 97.865% (swing meter pull-back and adjusted ball distance add of 3% for my Callaway HEX 33+ Soft balls) [this will vary with the type of ball you use]
97.865% + 1.5% = 99.3% (precision adjustment for swing meter for most clubs) [starters will have no adjustment]

Yes...NINE calculations for a full back-spin shot....BUT...you stick the ball within a yard provided you aim at the pin and ding the meter. (My recommendation is to PULL THE PIN so you don't whack it and end up 20 yards from the hole...lol...trust me)
This calculation can be done with practice in about 45-50 seconds. It takes a few extra seconds if the wind is at some other angle. Now, if you are in an Alternate Shot game, you have 45 seconds to aim and shoot if you have a 90-second shot timer. If you are by yourself, you have all day to make the calculation correctly.

Example #2. 145 yds. 15 ft. DROP Wind 14 mph from the "southeast" (or 45 degrees over your shoulder from the right)
15/3 = 5 yds. (drop calculation)
145 - 5 = 140 yds. (true shot calculation distance)
14/2 = 7 mph for wind
7 x.707 = 4.949 (true wind push)
140 - 4.949 = 135.051 yds, (true shot minus true wind)
135.051 + 5% = 141.803 yds. (club angle add for 8-iron full backspin shot)
141.803/144.2 = 0.98338 or 98.3338% (division for swing meter using Callaway HEX Chrome 33+ Soft balls...this will vary for the type of ball you use) [normal 8-iron shot for me is rated at 140 and I have to add 3% for the ball type]
98.3338% + 1.5% = 99.838% (swing meter precision error for club set)

Aim right using the blue line and line it up...most times the blue line will help in adjusting for wind push ....DON'T AIM AT THE PIN...LOL. The blue line is there to help you AIM. The blue line (or red when you extend it) is usually the exact amount you need to adjust for wind push. I have used it effectively in tons of cases and when I ding the meter, I have to actually have the pin pulled so I don't smack the pin.

CC WINNERS JULY 2016

Ddschom5 26

CoryGRobinson 18

kishoph 8

paulleftypaul 5

CrustyDemon1 5

Jtcooki 3

wishman51 2

mrgain 2

pdb1 2

kekanaranjo 2

MGRoza 1

31 Jul

Jtcooki came in first place in Arnies 2nd Get your Average down Kiawah over 2 wee.

30 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Olympic B9 "Random Set Up".

30 Jul

kekanaranjo came in first place in Olympic F9 "Random Set Up".

30 Jul

paulleftypaul came in first place in VOTSCC CTTH BRACKETS REVISITED # 1.

29 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Pinehurst #2 B9 / Front Tee's.

29 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Pinehurst #2 F9 / Front Tee's.

29 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in SKILLS CTTH's 3 MERION BK 9.

29 Jul

kishoph came in first place in SKILLS CTTH's 3 MERION FR 9.

26 Jul

kishoph came in first place in Oakmont B9 Front Tee's...A Dime to play.

26 Jul

Jtcooki came in first place in Oakmont F9 Front Tee's...A Dime to play.

26 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Chambers Bay F9 Front Tees L - TC.

26 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Chambers Bay F9 Front Tees H - TM.

26 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket Tournament .

26 Jul

kishoph came in first place in Pebble Beach B9 Default Tees.

26 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Pebble Beach F9 Default Tees.

24 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Par 5"s Default Tees.

24 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Par 5"s Default Tees.

24 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Bracket Tournament #78.

24 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Arnies spring tour 2016 No 14 Betrhpage.

23 Jul

kekanaranjo came in first place in BO Hardest Holes B9 Front Tees / VF Greens.

23 Jul

pdb1 came in first place in Hardest Holes F9 Front Tees.

21 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Merion B9 Front Tee's.

21 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Merion F9 Front Tee's.

19 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in BPB Middle Tees / Torn Greens L - C.

19 Jul

wishman51 came in first place in BPB Front Tees / VF Greens H - TM.

19 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Famous Holes B9 Default Tees.

19 Jul

paulleftypaul came in first place in Famous Holes F9 Default Tee's.

19 Jul

TinysTeeShot came in first place in SKILLS CTTH's 3 HILVERSUMSCHE GP 2.

19 Jul

TinysTeeShot came in first place in SKILLS CTTH's 3 HILVERSUMSCHE GP 1.

18 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Pebble Beach Full 18 Front Tees...A Dime To Play.

18 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in BO Par 4's F9 Default Tees / Torn Greens / L - TC.

18 Jul

mrgain came in first place in BO Par 4's F9 Default Tees / VF Greens / H - TM.

18 Jul

TinysTeeShot came in first place in St. Andrews B9 Easy Set Up....A DIME TO PLAY.

18 Jul

CrustyDemon1 came in first place in St. Andrews F9 Easy Set Up....A DIME TO PLAY.

18 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket Tournament .

18 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket Tournament .

18 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Tierless Chambers Bay Bracket 9H Free.

18 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket Tournament .

17 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Arnies Spring tour No 14.

17 Jul

Jtcooki came in first place in Arnies 2nd Get your Average Down No 5 Oakmount.

17 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Legend 9 Hole Bracket Free.

16 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Oakmont Full 18 Front Tees Unlimited.

15 Jul

TinysTeeShot came in first place in SKILLS CTTH's 3 HARBOUR TOWN.

15 Jul

kishoph came in first place in SKILLS CTTH's 3 EDGEWOOD TAHOE.

15 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Pinehurst F9 / B9 Default Tees.

14 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Bracket Tournament #77.

14 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket Tournament .

14 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 9 Hole Tierless Bracket Free.

14 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Tierless Pebble Beach Bracket 18H Free.

14 Jul

kishoph came in first place in Brandon Par 3's F9 Default Tees (Single Play).

13 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Chambers Bay B9 Default Tees.

13 Jul

paulleftypaul came in first place in Chambers Bay F9 Default Tees.

13 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Pebble Beach F9 / B9 Default Tee's.

12 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Royal St. George B9 / Front Tees.

12 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Royal St. George F9 / Front Tees.

11 Jul

TinysTeeShot came in first place in SKILLS CTTH's 3 CCC BK 9.

11 Jul

TinysTeeShot came in first place in SKILLS CTTH's 3 CCC FR 9.

11 Jul

kishoph came in first place in BO Par 5's B9 Front Tees / Torn Greens...A Dime to.

11 Jul

CrustyDemon1 came in first place in BO Par 5's Front Tees / Torn Greens...A Dime to Pl.

10 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Arnies seasonal tour No 11 Congressional.

10 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Brandon Full 18 Random Setup.

09 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in BO Famous Holes B9 Default Tee's / VF Greens.

09 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in BO Famous Holes F9 Default Tee's / VF Greens.

08 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Oakmont B9 Front Tee's.

08 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Merion B9 Default Tees.

08 Jul

kishoph came in first place in SKILS CTTH's 3 CHAMBERS BK 9.

08 Jul

kishoph came in first place in SKILLS CTTH's 3 CHAMBERS FR 9.

07 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket Tournament .

07 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Tierless Pebble Beach Bracket 18H Free.

07 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Tierless Pebble Beach Bracket 18H Free.

07 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Tierless Chambers Bay Bracket 9H Free.

05 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in BO Pars 4's B9 / Front Tees.

05 Jul

paulleftypaul came in first place in BO Pars 4's F9 / Front Tees.

04 Jul

TinysTeeShot came in first place in SKILLS CTTH's 3 Celtic Manor.

04 Jul

TinysTeeShot came in first place in `SKILLS CTTH's 3 BPB.

04 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Bracket Tournament #76.

04 Jul

paulleftypaul came in first place in Kiawah F9 / B9 L - C Medium Tees / Torn Greens.

04 Jul

mrgain came in first place in Kiawah F9 / B9 H - TM Front Tees / VF Greens.

04 Jul

CrustyDemon1 came in first place in St. George B9 Front Tee's / Torn Greens..A DIME TO.

04 Jul

CrustyDemon1 came in first place in St. George F9 Front Tee's / Torn Greens..A DIME TO.

04 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Merion F9 Default Tee's / Torn Greens L - TC.

04 Jul

wishman51 came in first place in Merion F9 Default Tee's / VF Greens H - TM.

03 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Arnies 2nd Get your Average down 2 Merion F Olympi.

03 Jul

kishoph came in first place in BO Hardest Holes F9 / B9 Front Tees / VF Greens.

03 Jul

dschom5 came in first place in Olympic F9 / B9 Default Tee's / Torn Greens.

02 Jul

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Tierless Pebble Beach Bracket 18H Free.

01 Jul
CrustyDemon1 came in first place in Chambers Bay F9 / B9 H - TM Front Tees / VF Greens.

01 Jul
pdb1 came in first place in SKILLS CTTH's 3 B O WATER.

01 Jul
MGroza came in first place in SKILLS CTTH's 3 B O PUTTING.

01 Jul
dschom5 came in first place in Pebble Beach F9 / B9 Easy Tees / Torn Greens.

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VERY EXCELLENT SPREAD SHEET TINY .

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HERE WE CAN POST ALL 5 DAYS IN 1 POST .

  PINEHURST # 8
PDB1 70,015
   wishman51  245,542
Kelly 70,892
robmurphy4 71,077
Tiny 92971
   JimQ....77,724
   Ber3n   98,225
kishoph...89,380




  WOLF CREEK
   PDB1 92,181
robmurphy4  282,976
Kelly 73,199
   JimQ 237,656
   wishman...69,791
Tiny 75262
   Ber3n   125,794
kishoph...83,224

  CHALLENGE AT MANELE
   PDB1 81,905
robmurphy4 92,058
   JimQ....87,260

Tiny................89467
kishoph...88,304
   Ber3n   97,885
Kelly 95166
   Wishman.. 76632 I got it off your profile Andrew,

~~59,224~~ I forgot to post yesterday. My score was better but not by much. I played clash rounds that wiped out my scores.

  EXPERIENCE AT KEOLE
   PDB1 75,337
robmurphy4 94,876
Tiny 91705
   JimQ 81,075
Kelly 75858
    Wishman  64,777
kishoph...90,836
   Ber3n   11
Andrew, 64,777

  HILVERSUMSCHE
PDB1 93,700
   Ber3n 268,014

robmurphy4 280,334
kishoph...91,683
   JimQ...337,322
   Andrew...72,875
Tiny...216818
Kelly - 83,005
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Thanks Paul!!!!!!
I was thinking the same thing, came in to make the post and wala, you had er dun.
Great minds think alike I guess.

Glad e1 liked the spreadsheet, I'm a stat junkie and a wiz on excel...lol
I forgot the red was harder to see in a post, so I'll adjust that next time.

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Kelly,
I hope your post means you want to play with us.

To post your score, you just edit the post paul made and add your name and score to the list under the appropriate course.

Unfortunatly, you played Pinehurst #2 and we play Pinehurst #8 this week, so ya need to play that one again

XOXO
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Looks good everyone . I am going to make this post so it will show up in the latest topics scroll . Which is where I like to click to come here .

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I was thinking the same thing, came in to make the post and wala, you had er dun.
Great minds think alike I guess.

Glad e1 liked the spreadsheet, I'm a stat junkie and a wiz on excel...lol
I forgot the red was harder to see in a post, so I'll adjust that next time.

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You are doing awesome Tiny . I wouldn't know a spreadsheet from a tub of butter .

About the colors . You will notice other things . Like red is the color of the editing background , but black is the color of the finish . Red won't show up while editing but will in final . Black will show in the edit but not in the final . The text that looks black in the edit is yellow in the final . That's just the beginning .
You will have fun with it .

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3 Search Sites That Don't Track You Like Google

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Sat, Jul 23 2016 10:38 PM

You are probably thinking whats azdewars babbling about now. I'm talking about privacy. Each time you type something into the search field, Google is recording you. It stores all of the search terms you type, and then uses them to try and think more like you in the future. Plus, there's even a feature called Google Timeline that uses GPS to map out your every move. Click here to see how it works - it's scary!
By recording your search history, reading your Gmail emails, and tracking your location, Google is able to make its services more useful to you by knowing what you want to see. And, in most cases, it's great. It saves you time by bringing you the best search results as quickly as possible. The only major drawback is the lack of privacy.
Sure, there are ways to wipe your search history and get a fresh start. But that's not enough if you really want to protect your privacy. So, here are three perfectly good, and perfectly private Web browsers for an incognito search approach.
My #1 favorite is DuckDuckGo, you never have to worry about targeted ads. This search engine will not track or target your IP address or search history. And, because it does not track your history and personalize your search experience you actually end up getting more results.

DuckDuckGo also has nifty tricks and features like a calculator, unit converter and even a custom interface with search shortcuts and Instant Answers. You can also make DuckDuckGo an extension of your browser and activate more privacy settings to better protect your anonymity.
My #2 favorite is Ixquick. It claims to be the world's most private browser. It also goes by the name StartPage.com - you might have heard of it.

It doesn't record your IP address, browser information, or search history, so you are safe from the prying eyes of advertisers. You can even search via proxy, so sites can't detect your real IP address (similar to Tor without the hassle of setting it up).
Searching through the proxy option may slow down your searches, but it also makes you invisible. A slower speed sounds pretty manageable when you're concerned about your privacy.
Ixquick also prevents filter bubbles, so you can get all of the search results you are looking for. An added bonus, it has a star system so you can rate the accuracy of your search.
Unfortunately, cutting down your use of Google doesn't mean your information is not being tracked.
And #3 is Yippy . Sure you can't protect your kids and grandkids from everything. But you can protect them from inappropriate content popping up during web searches. And that's where Yippy really shines.
This search engine was designed to automatically detect and block adult content. That means you no longer have to worry about pornography, gambling sites, sex product sites and other websites popping up while you're browsing the Internet.
When it comes to privacy, Yippy has you covered on that front as well. While it may collect anonymous information about your computer, as long as you're in the United States it won't collect any personal information such as your name, address or phone number.
If you're not in the U.S., Yippy claims that you are subject to tracking, but only so it can comply with government protocols.

john - azdewars

IN THE BEGINNING

WGTniv
1,788 Posts Tue, Jun 8 2010 3:40 PM

Wow, you guys have made this so amazingly more complicated than it is. Let me see what I can do to simplify this...
The game is pretty simple. Precision controls your accuracy. Imagine it's like a circle that surrounds the flagstick when you aim at it. The size of that circle is related to the precision rating. The higher the rating the smaller the circle. Your ball can land anywhere in the circle on a dinged shot (left or right, long or short). It will ALWAYS land in the circle on a ding shot, though sometimes it may land in the center of the circle and sometimes it may land on the very outer edge or anywhere in between those two points. When it lands on the outer edge this is what you guys have come to know as "the beast". Was the shot pre-programmed? Does it know you're standing on the 17th hole at Kiawah? No, it's just unfortunate timing. The result you see is the logical spread dictated by the precision rating of the club over 100 or 1,000 or 10,000 shots taken on the site. No matter how big or small the sample it's amazingly consistent because it is after all only a simple mathematical formula. The shot data is spread out amongst all users, so there will be times when you run into a lot of "edge cases" (aka deviations, aka outside edge of the precision circle) and times where you seemingly can't miss the center (even when you mishit). This is the ebb and flow of the game and it's always been there. In the short term you will have "bad" days and "good" days. In the long term (providing they are using the same clubs) any one player will see the same amount of "edge cases" or "deviations" that the rest of the players do.
And that's all there is to it! The other theories can be put to bed. There's no behind the scenes tweaking, no changing club attributes based on skill and no hidden mechanism that knows when you're on a water hole. It's just a formula that runs exactly the same for every single shot and it has no idea (nor does it care) where you are on the course. It doesn't matter if it's the first tee shot on #1 or the winning 10-foot putt in the USGA Virtual Championship. The formula runs the exact same calculation every single time and you're always at risk for an "edge case". How far away an "edge case" can take you depends solely on your precision rating for that club. The higher the precision rating (and conversely the more lofted the iron) the less "edge cases" will take you away from where you aimed.
Course releases have ZERO affect on your clubs. When a course is released it's just assets, hole maps, minimaps, HD photos and stuff that has absolutely no affect on your clubs. Us adding a JPG picture file (or 100,000 of them) does not change the way your approach shot on Kiawah #2 interacts with the green. Each course has it's own settings and each course comes with it's own set of "surfaces". If you go into Oakmont expecting your clubs to interact the same way they do on Kiawah then you've already made your first mistake. Every course has it's own nuances right down to how the ball is affected by elevation and break and you'll have to figure that out with practice. While adjusting to those nuances you may forget the nuances you learned on the older courses and get stuck in between your adjustments. That happens to me too. A new course comes out and suddenly I can't make a putt on Kiawah because I've spent so much time learning how to play the new breaks on Oakmont. As a result I end up over-playing breaks on everything for a short time while I adjust.
Hope that clears some of this confusion up. You fellas certainly come up with some wild ideas, but it's no where near as complicated or convoluted as some of you seem to think it is. Remember, keep it simple because it really is simple. =)

CLICK HERE AND CLICK THE LAST PAGE . TO POST YOUR BLITZ SCORES

Courses for Week 2 -- Season 16

Just add your score next to your name please!

Weekly winner receives 50 credits to their bank.

Mystery Score winner receives 50 credits to their bank.

Good Luck Everyone!!!!!!

PINEHURST #2

Tiny - 276,710
Andrew - 99,482
Gene - 94,730
Jim - 301,792
Paul - 88,057
Beren - Vacation

HARBOUR TOWN

Tiny - 128,553
Andrew - 64,347
Gene - 89,348
Jim - 73,807
Paul - 79,586
Beren - Vacation

KIAWAH ISLAND

Tiny - 124,045
Andrew - 68,876
Gene - 91,890
Jim - 99,035
Paul - 285,812
Beren - Vacation

ROYAL ST. GEORGE

Tiny - 227,142
Andrew - 77,639
Gene - 87,022
Jim - 255,980
Paul - 94,103
Beren - Vacation

CONGRESSIONAL

Tiny - 100,525
Andrew - 60,551
Gene - 342,058
Jim - 114,109
Paul - 91,402
Beren - Vacation

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Week #2 + Updated Season Standings

I won the week and Gene won the Mystery Score Again.

I will be posting everyone's bank balance at the end of every season, but feel free to PM me if you need to know your balance.

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CLICK HERE AND CLICK THE LAST PAGE . TO POST YOUR BLITZ SCORES

Courses for Week 2 -- Season 15

Just add your score next to your name please!

Weekly winner receives 50 credits to their bank.

Mystery Score winner receives 50 credits to their bank.

Good Luck Everyone!!!!!!

PINEHURST #2

Tiny - 316,684
Andrew - 120,558

Beren - 117,892
Gene - 270,904

Jim - 72,914
Paul - 94,975

Rob - 99,703

HARBOUR TOWN

Tiny - 94,998
Andrew - 73,338

Beren - 91,878
Gene - 87,955

Jim - 59,597
Paul - 91,256

Rob - 63,605

KIAWAH ISLAND

Tiny - 103,326
Andrew - 78,263

Beren - 97,415
Gene - 91,394

Jim - 80,203
Paul - 58,434

Rob - 97,216

ROYAL ST. GEORGE

Tiny - 271,140
Andrew - 72,402

Beren - 216,232
Gene -91,516

Jim - 213,926
Paul - 82,631

Rob - 79,688

CONGRESSIONAL

Tiny - 234,856
Andrew - 81,975

Beren - 95,574
Gene - 92,894

Jim - 92,493

Paul - 89,311

Rob - 74,350

CC TOURNEY WINNERS FOR APRIL 2016

dschom5 30

CoryGRobinson 9

kishoph 7

pdb1 7

kekanaranjo 4

TinysTeeShot 3

paulleftypaul 3

organlad 2

MGroza 2

kekelope 2

Jtcooki 1

wishman51 1

29 Apr

kekanaranjo came in first place in Bethpage Black F9 All Play.

29 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in BO Par 4's B9 L - TC.

29 Apr

mrgain came in first place in BO Par 4's B9 H - TM

29 Apr

paulleftypaul came in first place in SKILLS 2nd SEASON CCC FR 9.

29 Apr

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket Tournament

28 Apr

kekanaranjo came in first place in Famous Holes without Teeth B9.

28 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in Famous Holes without Teeth F9

27 Apr

Jtcooki came in first place in BRACKET TOURNAMENT #68

26 Apr

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket Tournament

26 Apr

kishoph came in first place in Brandon Par 3's F9.

26 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in Congress is in session F9 L - C.

26 Apr

Jtcooki came in first place in ST. ANDY PICKS AT RANDOM F9 / B9

26 Apr

kenelope came in first place in AN EVENT AT THE OLYMPICS F9 / B9

25 Apr

TinysTeeShot came in first place in SKILLS 2ND SEASON CHAMBERS BAY FR 9

25 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in PINEHURST #2 WITH IT'S GUARD DOWN F9 - B9

24 Apr

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket Tournament

24 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in Arnie's Get your Average Down Round 7.

24 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in Arnies Spring Tour Round 3 Best of Hardest.

23 Apr

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Tierless Pebble Beach Bracket 18H Free

23 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in Oaky Dokey F9

23 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in Royal St. George F9 / B9 Randomized.

22 Apr

kishoph came in first place in SKILLS 2nd SEASON CELTIC MANOR

22 Apr

pdb1 came in first place in SKILLS 2nd SEASON BPB.

22 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in Congress is not in Session F9.

21 Apr

CoryGRobinson came in first place in KIAWAH MADE EASY (L - TC).

21 Apr

kenelope came in first place in KIAWAH MADE EASY (H - TM)

21 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in BLACK IN BLACK TAMED B9

20 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in BO THE BEST PAR 4's F9

19 Apr

pdb1 came in first place in SKILLS 2nd SEASON B O WATER.

19 Apr

MGroza came in first place in SKILLS 2nd SEASON B O PUTTING

19 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in BO Par 3's -3Front Row View.

18 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in Putting on Glass Famous Holes F9 / B9

17 Apr

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Legend CTTH Bracket Free

17 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in Arnies Spring Tour 2016 round 2 Chambers Bay

16 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in BRACKET TOURNAMENT # 67

16 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in LONG AND STRAIGHT PAR 5'S F9 / B9

16 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in WHO IS BRANDON??? F9 / B9 RANDOMIZED.

16 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in BACK IN BLACK 2 F9

14 Apr

MGroza came in first place in PUTT FOR DOUGH # 5 top 3 takes 1000 +.

14 Apr

kishoph came in first place in VOTSCC SKILLS CTTH's B O FAMOUS.

14 Apr

kishoph came in first place in VOTSCC SKILLS CTTH's SEASON 2 BANDON B O PAR 3.

14 Apr

organlad came in first place in CAN YOU BEAT PEBBLE BEACH??? F9 / B9 H - TM

13 Apr

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Tierless Pebble Beach Bracket 18H Free

13 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in The Gas Chamber B9

13 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in Hardest Holes Tamed!!!

12 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in CAN YOU BEAT PEBBLE BEACH??? F9 / B9 L - TC

11 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in Congress Is In Session 2 F9 / B9

11 Apr

pdb1 came in first place in SKILLS ST ANDREW BK 9.

11 Apr

pdb1 came in first place in SKILLS ST ANDREW FR 9

10 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in Lower average No 6 Congressional Back

10 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in Arnie's Spring Tour 2016 Round 1 Best of Bandon

10 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in Bethpage Bites Back F9 / B9.

08 Apr

paulleftypaul came in first place in SKILLS RSG BK 9

08 Apr

kishoph came in first place in SKILLS RSG FR 9 ( the real one )

08 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in Best Of Famous Holes F9 / B9 Upper Tier L - TC.

08 Apr

wishman51 came in first place in Best Of Famous Holes F9 / B9 Lower Tier H - TM.

07 Apr

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Tierless Pebble Beach Bracket 18H Free

07 Apr

kekanaranjo came in first place in Bracket Tournament #66 Info

06 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in Pine Needles In My Shoes F9

06 Apr

kishoph came in first place in SKILLS RSG FR 9.

04 Apr

pdb1 came in first place in SKILLS WOLFCREEK.

04 Apr

pdb1 came in first place in SKILLS KEOLE

04 Apr

kishoph came in first place in Kiawah Island F9 / B9 Moderate Set Up.

04 Apr

kekanaranjo came in first place in St. Andrews F9 / B9 Easy

04 Apr

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Legend 9 Hole Bracket Free

04 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in BO Par 5's B9 Upper Tier L - TC.

04 Apr

organlad came in first place in BO Par 5's B9 Lower Tier H - TM.

03 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in Is St. George Really A Saint??? F9

02 Apr

pdb1 came in first place in SKILLS MANELE 72 HR.

02 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in Bracket Tournament #65 Stroke Play

02 Apr

dschom5 came in first place in Chambers Bay F9.

02 Apr

TinysTeeShot came in first place in BO Par 3's a Nickle Gree Fee's

01 Apr
CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket Tournament.

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Courses for Week 2 -- Season 14

Just add your score next to your name please!

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PINEHURST #2

Tiny - 161,491
Jim - 321,882
Beren - 236,786
Andrew - 93,094
Gene - 93,968
Paul - 106,145
Rob -

HARBOUR TOWN

Tiny - 105,978
Jim - 269,932
Beren - 272,900
Andrew - 74,674
Gene - 94,954
Paul - 78,865
Rob -

KIAWAH ISLAND

Tiny - 296,920
Jim - 67,296

Andrew - 88,678
Gene - 90,210
Paul - 80,271
Rob -

ROYAL ST. GEORGE

Tiny - 92,971
Jim - 72,655
Beren - 97,214
Andrew - 70,368
Gene - 89,475
Paul - 70,190
Rob -

CONGRESSIONAL

Tiny - 119,765
Jim - 66,732
Beren - 92,406
Andrew - 84,143
Gene - 90,921
Paul - 70,736
Rob -

CC TOURNEY WINNERS MARCH 2016

28 Mar

kishoph came in first place in Skills Hilversumsche grp 1.

28 Mar

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Tour Master Bracket 9H Free

28 Mar

organlad came in first place in STARTER (BEGINNER'S) CLUBS / BALL ONLY!!!!!!!

27 Mar

dschom5 came in first place in Oakmont F9 / B9 Made Easy.

26 Mar

dschom5 came in first place in Pinehurst #2 B9 Default Tee's

25 Mar

kishoph came in first place in Skills Bali Hai.

25 Mar

Jtcooki came in first place in Skills Pinehurst # 8

25 Mar

dschom5 came in first place in BO Par 3 Holes Full 18 EASY

25 Mar

dschom5 came in first place in Merion F9 Default Tee's.

25 Mar

kekanaranjo came in first place in Stranded on Kiawah Island F9 / B9.

24 Mar

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Tierless CTTH Bracket Free

23 Mar

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Tour Master Bracket 9H Speed.

23 Mar

CrustyDemon1 came in first place in BRACKET TOURNAMENT #64

23 Mar

paulleftypaul came in first place in Skills Pinehurst # 2 bk 9.

22 Mar

dschom5 came in first place in Judge's Chambers F9 / B9 Upper L - TC.

22 Mar

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Judge's Chambers F9 / B9 Lower H - TM

22 Mar

dschom5 came in first place in The Other Beach...Ms. Pebbles

21 Mar

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket Tournament

20 Mar

paulleftypaul came in first place in Skills Pinehurst # 2 bk 9.

20 Mar

paulleftypaul came in first place in Skills Pinehurst # 2 fr 9.

20 Mar

harry4364 came in first place in Pebble Beach Tierless Bracket Free

20 Mar

dschom5 came in first place in Arnies Seasonal Tour Last one (No 16 St Andrews).

20 Mar

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Tierless CTTH Bracket Free

20 Mar

CrustyDemon1 came in first place in ROYAL ST. GEORGE MADE EASY L - TC.

20 Mar

TinysTeeShot came in first place in ROYAL ST. GEORGE MADE EASY H - TM.

20 Mar

Jtcooki came in first place in Congressional B9 Upper Tier L - TC EASY!!!.

20 Mar

ROBERT744 came in first place in Congressional B9 Lower Tier H - TM EASY!!!

20 Mar

dschom5 came in first place in BO Par 3's F9 (Random Setup).

20 Mar

dschom5 came in first place in Arnie's Get your average down round 4

18 Mar

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Tour Master CTTH Bracket Free

18 Mar

kishoph came in first place in BO PAR 5'S (SUPER EASY) F9 / B9

17 Mar

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Tierless CTTH Bracket Free

17 Mar

dschom5 came in first place in BO PAR 4's HOLES B9 (EASY FOR ALL TIERS)

15 Mar

dschom5 came in first place in BO FAMOUS HOLES F9 / B9 (EASY / MODERATE).

15 Mar

kenelope came in first place in MAID MERION'S BK 9 DEFAULT TEE'S

15 Mar

kishoph came in first place in Skills Pebble Beach grp 2.

15 Mar

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Skills Pebble Beach grp 1

14 Mar

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket Tournament.

13 Mar

dschom5 came in first place in Arnies Seasonal Tour No 15 St Georges.

12 Mar

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Bethpage Black F9 TM'S - TC's Super Easy.

12 Mar

organlad came in first place in Bethpage Black F9 H's - M's Super Easy

12 Mar

kishoph came in first place in Master the Beach TM's - TC's

11 Mar

organlad came in first place in Master the Beach H - M's

11 Mar

kishoph came in first place in Skills Olympic bk 9

10 Mar

UZiBerlin came in first place in BRACKET TOURNAMENT #63 STROKE PLAY

10 Mar

dschom5 came in first place in BO Par 4 Holes F9 (EASY / MODERATE).

10 Mar

dschom5 came in first place in BO HARDEST HOLES B9 MADE EASY.

10 Mar

dschom5 came in first place in KIAWAH ISLAND B9 / B9.

09 Mar

CrustyDemon1 came in first place in BETHPAGE BLACK (MODERATE) B9.

07 Mar

kishoph came in first place in Skills Oakmont bk 9.

07 Mar

kishoph came in first place in Skills Oakmont fr 9

07 Mar

harry4364 came in first place in 9 Hole Tierless Bracket Free

07 Mar

dschom5 came in first place in MERION GOLF CLUB F9 ( RANDOMIZED).

07 Mar

dschom5 came in first place in CONGRESSION F9 (MODERATE).

07 Mar

dschom5 came in first place in BO PAR 5'S F9 / B9 EASY (XP HELPER).

07 Mar

dschom5 came in first place in BO HARDEST HOLES B9 (EASY).

06 Mar

Jaker1971 came in first place in On The Road To MASTER Tier , Pebble.

06 Mar

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Tierless CTTH Bracket Free.

06 Mar

dschom5 came in first place in Arnies Seasonal Tour No 14 Bethpage.

06 Mar

dschom5 came in first place in Arnies Get your Average down No 2 Pinehurst.

05 Mar

dschom5 came in first place in BEST OF BRANDON FULL 18.

05 Mar

dschom5 came in first place in PINEHURST NO 2 F9 UPPER TIER (EASY).

05 Mar

TinysTeeShot came in first place in PINEHURST NO 2 FP LOWER TIER (EASY).

05 Mar

dschom5 came in first place in CHAMBERS BAY F9 / B9

04 Mar

UZiBerlin came in first place in Bracket Tournament #62 Stroke Play.

03 Mar

dschom5 came in first place in BETHPAGE BLACK B9 (EASY).

03 Mar

dschom5 came in first place in BO FAMOUS HOLES B9

02 Mar

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Tour Master Bracket 9H Free

02 Mar

TinysTeeShot came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket Tournament.

01 Mar

pdb1 came in first place in Skills Merion bk 9.

01 Mar

pdb1 came in first place in Skills Celtic Manor

01 Mar
dschom5 came in first place in BRING ST. ANDREW'S TO HIS KNEE'S (TIER UP...SUPER

CLICK HERE AND CLICK THE LAST PAGE . TO POST YOUR BLITZ SCORES

Courses for Week 2 -- Season 13

Just add your score next to your name please!

Weekly winner receives a sleeve of balls of my choosing. (Once per season)

Mystery Score winner receives a sleeve of balls of my choosing. (Once per season)

Season Winner receives 700 Credits for an item(s) in the Pro Shop!

Good Luck Everyone!!!!!!

PINEHURST #2

Tiny - 295,090
Rob - 95,969
Jim - 273,948
Beren - 270,894
Andrew - 94,841
Gene - 91,104
Paul - 98,699
Ken - 97,429
Robert -
Chris -
Kelly -

HARBOUR TOWN

Tiny - 94,292
Rob - 86,522
Jim - 90,253
Beren - 88,539
Andrew - 84,674
Gene - 109,402
Paul - 280,208
Ken - 258,022
Robert -
Chris -
Kelly -

KIAWAH ISLAND

Tiny - 297,522
Rob - 102,961
Jim - 196,994
Beren - 98,352
Andrew - 90,845
Gene - 93,530
Paul - 85,685
Ken - 76,248
Robert -
Chris -
Kelly -

ROYAL ST. GEORGE

Tiny - 247,474
Rob - 286,862
Jim - 254,000
Beren - 262,124
Andrew - 88,215
Gene - 94,023
Paul - 87,623
Ken - 83,802
Robert -
Chris -
Kelly -

CONGRESSIONAL

Tiny - 315,520
Rob - 291,280
Jim - 228,506
Beren - 98,802
Andrew - 88,699
Gene - 97,399
Paul - 93,521
Ken - 269,592
Robert -
Chris -
Kelly -

CC MEMBERS TOURNEY WINS FOR FEBRUARY 2016

29 Feb

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Tierless CTTH Bracket Free

29 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in Oakmont B9.

29 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in BO FAMOUS HOLES F9

28 Feb

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket Tournament.

28 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in Arnies Seasonal Tour No 13 Kiawah.

28 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in PAR 3 HOLES HONE YOUR SKILLS FULL 18

27 Feb

kishoph came in first place in Skills Merion fr 9.

27 Feb

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Skills Kiawah

27 Feb

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Tierless CTTH Bracket Free

27 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in BO PAR 4'S B9.

26 Feb

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Master 9 Hole Bracket Free

26 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in HARDEST HOLES MADE EASY F9

26 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in Over the Pond Royal St. George F9 / B9.

26 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in Stuck on an Island F9 / B9 (Super Easy)

25 Feb

UZiBerlin came in first place in BETHPAGE BLACK F9 A NICKEL TO PLAY (UPPER TIER).

25 Feb

1HappyGilmore69 came in first place in BETHPAGE BLACK F9 A NICKEL TO PLAY (LOWER TIER)

24 Feb

TinysTeeShot came in first place in 9 Hole Tierless Bracket Free.

24 Feb

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Tierless CTTH Bracket Free

23 Feb

pdb1 came in first place in SKILLS Congressional bk 9.

23 Feb

Ber3n came in first place in SKILLS Congressional fr 9

22 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in AS EASY AS OLYMPICS GETS

22 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in Oakmont F9.

22 Feb

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Merion B9.

22 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in Pinehurst #2 B9.

21 Feb

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Tierless CTTH Bracket Free

21 Feb

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Tierless Chambers Bay Bracket 9H Free.

21 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in Arnies Seasonal Tour No 12 Best of par 5

21 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in Arnie's Get your Average Down No 1 Chambers Bay La.

21 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in BO Brandon Par 3's B9

21 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in BO Par 4's Challange B9 (Easy / Moderate Set Up)

21 Feb

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Tierless CTTH Bracket Free.

21 Feb

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Master CTTH Bracket Free

21 Feb

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Master 9 Hole Bracket Free.

20 Feb

CoryGRobinson came in first place in SKILLS CHAMBERS BAY BK 9

19 Feb

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Tierless CTTH Bracket Free.

19 Feb

Ber3n came in first place in SKILLS CHAMBERS BAY

19 Feb

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Master 9 Hole Speed Bracket Free

18 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in Bracket Tournament #61 Stroke Play.

17 Feb

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Tierless CTTH Bracket Free

17 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in PEBBLE BEACH F9.

17 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in OAKMONT F9.

17 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in MERION F9 GO LOW (EASY!!!)

16 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in Congressional F9 / B9 Upper Tier L - TC

16 Feb

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Master 9 Hole Bracket Free.

16 Feb

mrgain came in first place in Congressional F9 / B9 Lower Tier H - TM.

16 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in Chambers Bay F9 / B9 Go Low (Easy!!!).

16 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in BO Par 5's F9 / B9

16 Feb

pdb1 came in first place in SKILLS CTTH BPB

15 Feb

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Tierless CTTH Bracket Free.

15 Feb

TinysTeeShot came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket Tournament

15 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in BO Famous Holes F9 / B9.

15 Feb

kekanaranjo came in first place in Bethpage Black F9 / B9

15 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in kIAWAH ISLAND B9/B9

15 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in BO BRANDON F9

14 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in Arnies Seasonal Tour No 11 Oakmount

12 Feb

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Tierless CTTH Bracket Free

12 Feb

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Master 9 Hole Bracket Free

11 Feb

kenelope came in first place in BRACKET TOURNAMENT #39 CTTH.

11 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in BO Par 3 Holes F9/B9.

10 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in BO Par 4 Holes / B9.

10 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in BO Hardest Holes / B9

09 Feb

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Master 9 Hole Bracket Free.

09 Feb

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Tierless CTTH Bracket Free.

08 Feb

paulleftypaul came in first place in BRACKET TOURNAMENT #60 STROKE PLAY.

08 Feb

voltage7777 came in first place in Arnie Get your Average down No 1 Bethpage Front 9.

08 Feb

kishoph came in first place in " No Drivers Use Your Best Wedges and Irons " easy

07 Feb

kishoph came in first place in " No Drivers Allowed " use your best irons and wed.

07 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in 3 Round Multi Course Challenge.

07 Feb

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Master 9 Hole Speed Bracket Free

06 Feb

harry4364 came in first place in Tour Pro Bracket 9H Free.

06 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in Arnies Seasonal Tour No 10 (re run) Best of Par 4.

06 Feb

CoryGRobinson came in first place in BEGINNERS CLUBS / BALLS ONLY...REPEAT, BEGINNERS C

06 Feb

CrustyDemon1 came in first place in Pinehurst #2 B9.

06 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in BO Hardest Holes / F9

06 Feb

Ber3n came in first place in Kelly's KTTH :-}.

06 Feb

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Tierless CTTH Bracket Free.

5 Feb

Ber3n came in first place in Beginners equipment ONLY and NO WOODS!!!! See Form

05 Feb

CoryGRobinson came in first place in IS BRANDON GONNA KICK YOUR BUTT? F9/ B9

05 Feb

kekanaranjo came in first place in CHAMBERS BAY UPPER TIER F9 / B9.

05 Feb

TinysTeeShot came in first place in CHAMBERS BAY LOWER TIER F9 / B9

04 Feb

CrustyDemon1 came in first place in PLAY FOR A NICKEL PEBBLE BEACH UPPER (L - C).

04 Feb

TinysTeeShot came in first place in PLAY FOR A NICKEL PEBBLE BEACH LOWER (H-TM)

04 Feb

Bertasion came in first place in BO Famous Holes / F9.

04 Feb

dschom5 came in first place in Best of par Par 4's...F/9.

01 Feb

kishoph came in first place in Train for the Olympics F9 - B9 (Upper Tier....Easy.

01 Feb

kenelope came in first place in Train for the Olympics F9 - B9 (Lower Tier....Easy

01 Feb

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket .

01 Feb
kekanaranjo came in first place in BEGINNER'S CLUBS / BALLS ONLY!!!.

VOTSCC CC WINNERS JANUARY 2016

pdb1

7,974 Posts
Thu, Feb 4 2016 9:52 PM

Way to go guys .
Cory with 13 WGT tourney wins and 3 CC tourney wins.
dschom5 with 10 CC tourney wins.
Urs with 7 CC tourney wins .
There were other members with totals of 4 , 3 , 2 , 1 .

Owner has designated a minimum of 5 wins per month to earn an award . If someone finds that an individuals acheivement has been overlooked by me . Of course they will get their due recognition immediately .

These totals are only a result of the owners attempt to tally the totals . And remain open to the scrutiny of anyone who wants to fck with it .

VOTSCC CC WINNERS JANUARY 2016

VOTSCC TOP CC WINNERS JANUARY 2016

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JimQ916

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Fri, Feb 5 2016 6:35 AM

Well played you guys....congratulations. Great trophies Paul....Jim

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harry4364

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Fri, Feb 5 2016 9:02 AM

congrats guys

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kishoph

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Sat, Feb 6 2016 5:33 AM

Congratulations guys, well done.

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CrustyDemon1

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Sat, Feb 6 2016 4:19 PM

Yes, congratulations guys :-}
You see that blank space bottom right corner?
That will be MINE mine mine mine!
(insert evil laugh)
Kelly
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Sat, Feb 6 2016 9:41 PM

EVIL LAUGH

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Sun, Feb 7 2016 2:54 AM

MMMwahahahahahaha
06 Feb
CrustyDemon1 came in first place inPinehurst #2 B9.

Heheee
Kelly
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Sun, Feb 7 2016 3:40 AM

CrustyDemon1:
MMMwahahahahahaha

I knew that's the one what you meant . But the ones i recorded were too cute to pass up ,

CLICK HERE AND CLICK THE LAST PAGE . TO POST YOUR BLITZ SCORES

Here are the courses for Week 2 -- Season 12

Just add your score next to your name please!

Weekly winner receives a sleeve of balls of my choosing. (Once per season)

Mystery Score winner receives a sleeve of balls of my choosing. (Once per season)

Good Luck Everyone!!!!!!

PINEHURST #2

Tiny - 91,316
Rob - 299,810
Jim - 120,180
Beren - 121,634
Andrew - 70,191
Gene - 92,955
Paul -   95,247
Ken - 104,294
Kelly -

HARBOUR TOWN

Tiny - 206,340
Rob -88,486
Jim - 92,163
Beren - 86,369
Andrew - 87,750
Gene - 92,459
Paul - 86,344
Ken - 102,870
Kelly -

KIAWAH ISLAND

Tiny - 93,008
Rob - 98,873
Jim -         74,371
Beren -    105,173
Andrew - 96,271     Tiny, I posted scores for week one
Gene - 82,121
Paul - 88,027
Kelly -
Ken - 94,011

ROYAL ST. GEORGE

Tiny - 105,457
Rob – 223,792
Jim -   78,576
Beren -208,552
Andrew - 80,348
Gene -91,528
Paul - 78,995
Ken - 255,554
Kelly -

CONGRESSIONAL

Tiny - 229,440
Rob -88,477
Jim -58,093
Beren -283,260
Andrew - 97,761
Gene - 93,255
Paul - 79,508
Ken - 97,765
Kelly -

VOTSCC CC WINNERS JANUARY 2016

31 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in BRACKET TOURNAMENT #38 CTTH.

31 Jan

CrustyDemon1 came in first place in BEST OF BRANDON UPPER TIERS (L - C) CTTH.

31 Jan

robmurphy4 came in first place in BEST OF BRANDON UPPER TIERS (L - C) CTTH.

31 Jan

Ber3n came in first place in BEST OF BRANDON LOWER TIERS CTTH (HACK - TM).

31 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in OAKMONT....WHAT THE KECK IS AN OAKMONT / B9.

30 Jan

Buddha248 came in first place in 9 Hole Tierless Bracket Free.

28 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket .

28 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket .

28 Jan

Bertasion came in first place in Maid Merion At Her Best F9 / B9 (UPPER).

28 Jan

UZiBerlin came in first place in Maid Merion At Her Best F9 / B9 (LOWER).

28 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket .

28 Jan

kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in VOTSCC Kick Ass Club Championship (Handicap).

27 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in Who's famous around here??? (B9...Upper Tier).

27 Jan

UZiBerlin came in first place in Who's famous around here??? (B9...Lower Tier).

27 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Can you defeat Beth??? CTTH.

26 Jan

CrustyDemon1 came in first place in Andy Is Old F9 - B9 Upper Tier L - C.

26 Jan

UZiBerlin came in first place in Andy Is Old F9 - B9.

26 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in Congress Did What??? F9 / B9.

25 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Could go low or may just go.

25 Jan

TinysTeeShot came in first place in Arnie's Seasonal Tour No 10 C Best of Par 4.

25 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket .

24 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in St. George Isn't a Saint F9 / B9.

24 Jan

nitramgoht came in first place in Stuck on an Island F9 / B9 Upper.

24 Jan

UZiBerlin came in first place in Stuck on an Island F9 / B9 Lower.

24 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Arnie's Seasonal Tour No 9 Congressional.

23 Jan

Ber3n came in first place in Nothing But Putts CTTH (Just for Fun).

22 Jan

kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in BRACKET TOURNAMENT #58 STROKE PLAY.

22 Jan

kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in Bracket Tournament #37 CTTH.

21 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in Okey Dokey Smoky F9.

21 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in Who's #2?.

19 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket .

19 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Pebble Beach Tierless Bracket Free.

19 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Tierless Chambers Bay Bracket 9H Free.

19 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in Pebbles and Bam Bam F9.

18 Jan

nitramgoht came in first place in Congressional F9.

18 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in BETHPAGE B9.

18 Jan

nitramgoht came in first place in BRACKET TOURNAMENT #57 STROKE PLAY INFO.

18 Jan

kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in BRACKET TOURNAMENT #36 CTTH INFO.

17 Jan

NoFuneral came in first place in Legend Bracket 18H 100C.

16 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in Arnies Seasonal Tour No 6 Best of Par 3.

16 Jan

NoFuneral came in first place in Arnies Seasonal Tour No 5 Olympic.

16 Jan

kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in BACK IN BLACK F9.

16 Jan

nitramgoht came in first place in BO PAR 5'S F9 UPPER TIER.

16 Jan

UZiBerlin came in first place in BO PAR 5'S F9 LOWER TIER.

15 Jan

paulleftypaul came in first place in BRANDON HAS BALLS F9 / B9.

14 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Pebble Beach Tierless Bracket Free.

14 Jan

nitramgoht came in first place in BO PAR 4'S F9 OPEN UPPER TIER.

14 Jan

UZiBerlin came in first place in BO PAR 4'S F9 OPEN LOWER TIER.

13 Jan

kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in Bracket Tournament #56 Stroke Play.

13 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 9 Hole Tierless Bracket Free.

13 Jan

kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in BRACKET CTTH @ 35.

12 Jan

NoFuneral came in first place in Royal St. George RULES F9 / B9.

12 Jan

gru1971 came in first place in BO HARDEST HOLES F9.

11 Jan

armchairalien came in first place in 420 PC TRUE 72 ST ANDRTEWS.

10 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket .

10 Jan

dschom5 came in first place in Brandon Full 18.

10 Jan

NoFuneral came in first place in RC,s VACATION OPEN 2016 HURRAH.

09 Jan

NoFuneral came in first place in BO Par 5's 18 HOLES EASY.

08 Jan

nitramgoht came in first place in Oakmont Test of Skills F9.

08 Jan

nitramgoht came in first place in Merion is a Beast L - TC F9.

08 Jan

UZiBerlin came in first place in Merion is a Beast H - TM F9.

08 Jan

kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in Stranded on an Island B9.

07 Jan

kekanaranjo came in first place in Bracket Tournament #55 STROKE PLAY.

07 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Legend 9 Hole Bracket Free.

04 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket .

04 Jan

NoFuneral came in first place in BO PAR 3'S AT RANDOM F9 / B9.

03 Jan

NoFuneral came in first place in RC,s NEW YEARS OPEN.

03 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket .

03 Jan

kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in Arnie;s Seasonal Tour No 6.

03 Jan

nitramgoht came in first place in Arnie's Seasonal Tour No 5 Merion.

03 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in Pebble Beach Tierless Bracket Free.

03 Jan

CoryGRobinson came in first place in 9 Hole Tierless Bracket Free.

03 Jan

kekanaranjo came in first place in KIAWAH ISLAND L - TM.

03 Jan

nitramgoht came in first place in BEST OF FAMOUS B9.

03 Jan
Bertasion came in first place in ST. ANDY STRIKES AGAIN F9 /B9.

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Kelly,
I hope your post means you want to play with us.

To post your score, you just edit the post paul made and add your name and score to the list under the appropriate course.

Unfortunatly, you played Pinehurst #2 and we play Pinehurst #8 this week, so ya need to play that one again

XOXO
Tiny

CC TOURNEY WINNERS FOR DECEMBER 2015

30 Dec
reddevil16 came in first place in kIAWAH ISAND B9 H - TM

29 Dec
dschom5 came in first place in George is SEMI-HARD.......F9 / B9.

29 Dec
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in Andy is SOFT....F9 / B9

28 Dec
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in Pebbles In My Shoe TM - TC.

28 Dec
UZiBerlin came in first place in Pebbles In My Shoe H - M.

28 Dec
CRTowr came in first place in Tour Pro Bracket 9H Free

28 Dec
CoryGRobinson came in first place in RC ,s _CROWN ROYAL CHRISTMAS OPEN

28 Dec
CoryGRobinson came in first place in VOTSCC SKILLS CTTH 2 ROUNDER ST. ANDY FR & BK.

28 Dec
gru1971 came in first place in Black is Back Open F9 - B9

28 Dec
NoFuneral came in first place in VOTSCC SKILLS CTTH 1 DAY ON THE BEACH .

27 Dec
nitramgoht came in first place in Arnie's Seasonal Tour No 4 Best of Hardest.

27 Dec
NoFuneral came in first place in Arnies Seasonal Tour No 3 Pinehurst

25 Dec
Buddha248 came in first place in Tour Master Bracket 9H Free

24 Dec
NoFuneral came in first place in 9 Hole Tierless Bracket 100CR.

24 Dec
CoryGRobinson came in first place in Legend 9 Hole Bracket Free

24 Dec
CoryGRobinson came in first place in Pebble Beach Tierless Bracket Free

24 Dec
NoFuneral came in first place in Get Into My Chambers NOW!!!!! B9 L - TC.

24 Dec
UZiBerlin came in first place in Get Into My Chambers NOW!!!!! B9 H - TM.

24 Dec
Ber3n came in first place in Tour of Lanai....Manele / Koele CTTH.

23 Dec
dschom5 came in first place in KIAWAH AND FAMOUS 18 HOLES EACH RANDOM SET UP

22 Dec
pdb1 came in first place in VOTSCC SKILLS CTTH VALHALLA.

22 Dec
CRTowr came in first place in Tour Pro Bracket 9H Free.

21 Dec
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in Bracket Tournament #34 (CTTH)

21 Dec
Bertasion came in first place in Bracket Tournament #54 Stroke Play

20 Dec
CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 Hole Tierless Bracket .

20 Dec
CoryGRobinson came in first place in Legend 9 Hole Bracket Free

19 Dec
dschom5 came in first place in INFAMOUS FR & BK TM - C.

19 Dec
NoFuneral came in first place in BO PAR 5'S B9 RANDOM CHALLANGE

19 Dec
NoFuneral came in first place in Arnie's Seasonal New year tour round 2 Chambers Ba

19 Dec
CoryGRobinson came in first place in Arnie's Seasonal New year Tour 1

18 Dec
Sage013 came in first place in kiawah open f9 II

18 Dec
CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18 OF THE OLD COURSE

17 Dec
paulleftypaul came in first place in VOTSCC Bracket # 53.

16 Dec
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in CTTH Bracket # 33

15 Dec
CoryGRobinson came in first place in Pebble Beach Tierless Bracket Free.

15 Dec
dschom5 came in first place in PINEHURST #2 CHALLENGE F9.

15 Dec
wishman51 came in first place in INFAMOUS MASTERS FR & BK H - M.

14 Dec
CoryGRobinson came in first place in Pebble Beach Tierless Bracket Free.

14 Dec
CoryGRobinson came in first place in CHAMBERS BAY B9 CHALLANGE.

12 Dec
nitramgoht came in first place in VOTSCC Bracket # 52.

12 Dec
pdb1 came in first place in PUTT FOR DOUGH # 4.

12 Dec
kekanaranjo came in first place in HARDEST HOLES F9 CHALLANGE L - TC.

12 Dec
wishman51 came in first place in HARDEST HOLES F9 CHALLANGE H - TM

11 Dec
Dontknowyet came in first place in cluck's clutch andy open II

11 Dec
NoFuneral came in first place in BACK IN BLACK RANDOM F9 / B9

09 Dec
gru1971 came in first place in XP Helper (Par 5's super easy set up)

09 Dec
kishoph came in first place in VOTSCC SKILLS CTTH 2 ROUNDER

08 Dec
paulleftypaul came in first place in PEBBLES ARE ROCKS TOO L - TC F9.

08 Dec
UZiBerlin came in first place in PEBBLES ARE ROCKS TOO H - TM F9.

07 Dec
kishoph came in first place in VOTSCC SKILLS CTTH NARBOURTOWN.

07 Dec
kishoph came in first place in VOTSCC SKILLS CTTH EDGEWOOD TAHOE.

07 Dec
NoFuneral came in first place in VOTSCC SKILLS CTTH CELTIC MANOR

06 Dec
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in VOTSCC Bracket #51.

06 Dec
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in Arnies Fall Tour No 16 St Andrew British open part

06 Dec
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in Arnies Fall Tour No 15 British Open Part 1.

05 Dec
dschom5 came in first place in MERION B9 L - TC.

05 Dec
UZiBerlin came in first place in MERION B9 H - TM.

05 Dec
JimQ916 came in first place in CAT SCRATCH FEVER B O PAR 4's FR 9 TM.

05 Dec
UZiBerlin came in first place in SNAKE SKIN COWBOY B O PAR 4's FR 9 H - M.

05 Dec
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in STRANGLEHOLD B O PAR 4's FR 9 L - C

04 Dec
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in CTTH # 31.
04 Dec
CRTowr came in first place in Tour Pro Bracket 9H Free.

03 Dec
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in Oakmont is the Bomb TM - TC F9 / B9.

03 Dec
Ber3n came in first place in Oakmont is the Bomb H - M F9 / B9

01 Dec
CoryGRobinson came in first place in Tierless Chambers Bay Bracket 9H Free
01 Dec
paulleftypaul came in first place in VOTSCC Bracket # 50.

01 Dec
paulleftypaul came in first place in SITTING ON THE DOCK OF THE BAY B9.

01 Dec
nitramgoht came in first place in BLACK BACK RANDOMIZED.

01 Dec
CoryGRobinson came in first place in Legend Bracket 9H Free.

01 Dec
fravel came in first place in The Royal Rumble.

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JimQ....Pinehurst #2........72,259

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kishoph...Pinehurst #2...93,013

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Andrew, Pinehurst #2, 89258

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Ber3n

Pinehurst #2

320,304

CC TOURNEYS LAST 30 DAYS

[size=14]O PAR 5'S B9 RANDOM CHALLANGE
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
12/19/2015 10:00
Tiers:
All
Winner:
NoFuneral
Score:
34
Host:
JimQ916
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]kiawah open f9 II
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
12/18/2015 15:04
Tiers:
All
Winner:
Sage013
Score:
27
Host:
clucktrentsuperd
Your Position:
6
Your Score:
29
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]18 OF THE OLD COURSE
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
12/18/2015 09:47
Tiers:
All
Winner:
CoryGRobinson
Score:
60
Host:
JimQ916
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]VOTSCC Bracket # 53
Type:
Stroke Play Bracket
Rounds:
4
Closed:
12/14/2015 08:38
Tiers:
All
Winner:
—
Score:
—
Host:
robmurphy4
Your Score:
WD
[/size]

Bracket

[size=14]Arnie's Seasonal New year tour round 2 Chambers Ba
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
12/19/2015 07:32
Tiers:
All
Winner:
NoFuneral
Score:
64
Host:
ArnieFinlay
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]Arnie's Seasonal New year Tour 1
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
12/19/2015 07:29
Tiers:
All
Winner:
CoryGRobinson
Score:
47
Host:
ArnieFinlay
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]PINEHURST #2 CHALLENGE F9
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
12/15/2015 18:43
Tiers:
All
Winner:
dschom5
Score:
29
Host:
JimQ916
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]CTTH Bracket # 33
Type:
CTTH Bracket
Rounds:
4
Closed:
12/13/2015 11:23
Tiers:
All
Winner:
—
Score:
—
Host:
robmurphy4
Your Score:
WD
[/size]

Bracket

[size=14]HARDEST HOLES F9 CHALLANGE L - TC
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
12/12/2015 08:54
Tiers:
Legend, Tour Legend, Champion, Tour Champion
Winner:
kekanaranjo
Score:
32
Host:
JimQ916
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]HARDEST HOLES F9 CHALLANGE H - TM
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
12/12/2015 08:51
Tiers:
Hack, Amateur, Pro, Tour Pro, Master, Tour Master
Winner:
wishman51
Score:
36
Host:
JimQ916
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]CHAMBERS BAY B9 CHALLANGE
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
12/14/2015 08:45
Tiers:
All
Winner:
CoryGRobinson
Score:
32
Host:
JimQ916
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]cluck's clutch andy open II
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
12/11/2015 12:32
Tiers:
All
Winner:
Dontknowyet
Score:
24
Host:
clucktrentsuperd
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]VOTSCC Bracket # 52
Type:
Stroke Play Bracket
Rounds:
4
Closed:
12/09/2015 18:00
Tiers:
All
Winner:
—
Score:
—
Host:
robmurphy4
Your Score:
WD
[/size]

Bracket

[size=14]VOTSCC SKILLS CTTH 2 ROUNDER
Type:
Closest to the Hole
Rounds:
2
Closed:
12/07/2015 15:14
Tiers:
All
Winner:
kishoph
Score:
246.66
Host:
pdb1
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]VOTSCC SKILLS CTTH NARBOURTOWN
Type:
Closest to the Hole
Rounds:
1
Closed:
12/07/2015 15:09
Tiers:
All
Winner:
kishoph
Score:
164.35
Host:
pdb1
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]VOTSCC SKILLS CTTH EDGEWOOD TAHOE
Type:
Closest to the Hole
Rounds:
1
Closed:
12/07/2015 15:07
Tiers:
All
Winner:
kishoph
Score:
158.53
Host:
pdb1
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]VOTSCC SKILLS CTTH CELTIC MANOR
Type:
Closest to the Hole
Rounds:
1
Closed:
12/07/2015 15:04
Tiers:
All
Winner:
NoFuneral
Score:
112.36
Host:
pdb1
Your Position:
4
Your Score:
197.25
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]PUTT FOR DOUGH # 4
Type:
Closest to the Hole
Rounds:
1
Closed:
12/12/2015 14:58
Tiers:
All
Winner:
pdb1
Score:
68.49
Host:
pdb1
Your Position:
1
Your Score:
68.49
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]INFAMOUS MASTERS FR & BK H - M
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
2
Closed:
12/12/2015 14:53
Tiers:
Hack, Amateur, Pro, Tour Pro, Master
Winner:
wishman51
Score:
63
Host:
pdb1
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]INFAMOUS FR & BK TM - C
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
2
Closed:
12/12/2015 14:49
Tiers:
Tour Master, Legend, Tour Legend, Champion, Tour Champion
Winner:
dschom5
Score:
53
Host:
pdb1
Your Position:
9
Your Score:
63
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]BACK IN BLACK RANDOM F9 / B9
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
2
Closed:
12/08/2015 10:05
Tiers:
All
Winner:
NoFuneral
Score:
60
Host:
JimQ916
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]PEBBLES ARE ROCKS TOO L - TC F9
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
12/08/2015 10:01
Tiers:
Legend, Tour Legend, Champion, Tour Champion
Winner:
paulleftypaul
Score:
28
Host:
JimQ916
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]PEBBLES ARE ROCKS TOO H - TM F9
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
12/08/2015 09:57
Tiers:
Hack, Amateur, Pro, Tour Pro, Master, Tour Master
Winner:
UZiBerlin
Score:
31
Host:
JimQ916
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]CTTH # 32
Type:
CTTH Bracket
Rounds:
4
Closed:
12/07/2015 18:08
Tiers:
All
Winner:
—
Score:
—
Host:
robmurphy4
Your Score:
WD
[/size]

Bracket

[size=14]VOTSCC Bracket #51
Type:
Stroke Play Bracket
Rounds:
4
Closed:
12/03/2015 10:30
Tiers:
All
Winner:
—
Score:
—
Host:
robmurphy4
Your Score:
WD
[/size]

Bracket

[size=14]Arnies Fall Tour No 16 St Andrew British open part
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
12/06/2015 07:59
Tiers:
All
Winner:
kmamjmemedmmm
Score:
59
Host:
ArnieFinlay
Your Position:
10
Your Score:
66
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]Arnies Fall Tour No 15 British Open Part 1
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
12/06/2015 07:56
Tiers:
All
Winner:
kmamjmemedmmm
Score:
58
Host:
ArnieFinlay
Your Position:
6
Your Score:
63
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]XP Helper (Par 5's super easy set up)
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
4
Closed:
11/18/2015 17:16
Tiers:
All
Winner:
gru1971
Score:
126
Host:
JimQ916
Your Position:
7
Your Score:
144
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]MERION B9 L - TC
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
12/05/2015 12:17
Tiers:
Legend, Tour Legend, Champion, Tour Champion
Winner:
dschom5
Score:
30
Host:
JimQ916
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]MERION B9 H - TM
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
12/05/2015 12:12
Tiers:
Hack, Amateur, Pro, Tour Pro, Master, Tour Master
Winner:
UZiBerlin
Score:
31
Host:
JimQ916
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]CAT SCRATCH FEVER B O PAR 4's FR 9 TM
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
12/05/2015 09:38
Tiers:
Tour Master
Winner:
JimQ916
Score:
41
Host:
pdb1
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]SNAKE SKIN COWBOY B O PAR 4's FR 9 H - M
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
12/05/2015 09:36
Tiers:
Hack, Amateur, Pro, Tour Pro, Master
Winner:
UZiBerlin
Score:
35
Host:
pdb1
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]STRANGLEHOLD B O PAR 4's FR 9 L - C
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
12/05/2015 09:33
Tiers:
Legend, Tour Legend, Champion, Tour Champion
Winner:
kmamjmemedmmm
Score:
32
Host:
pdb1
Your Position:
3
Your Score:
34
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]SITTING ON THE DOCK OF THE BAY B9
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
12/01/2015 13:04
Tiers:
All
Winner:
paulleftypaul
Score:
30
Host:
JimQ916
Your Position:
9
Your Score:
37
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]BLACK BACK RANDOMIZED
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
12/01/2015 13:00
Tiers:
All
Winner:
nitramgoht
Score:
28
Host:
JimQ916
Your Position:
7
Your Score:
32
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]CTTH # 31
Type:
CTTH Bracket
Rounds:
4
Closed:
12/01/2015 17:28
Tiers:
All
Winner:
—
Score:
—
Host:
robmurphy4
Your Score:
WD
[/size]

Bracket

[size=14]Oakmont is the Bomb TM - TC F9 / B9
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
2
Closed:
11/30/2015 07:44
Tiers:
Tour Master, Legend, Tour Legend, Champion, Tour Champion
Winner:
kmamjmemedmmm
Score:
63
Host:
JimQ916
Your Position:
4
Your Score:
72
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]Oakmont is the Bomb H - M F9 / B9
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
2
Closed:
11/30/2015 07:36
Tiers:
Hack, Amateur, Pro, Tour Pro, Master
Winner:
Ber3n
Score:
64
Host:
JimQ916
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]Pinehurst #2 Randonized F9
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
11/30/2015 07:16
Tiers:
All
Winner:
kmamjmemedmmm
Score:
29
Host:
JimQ916
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]The Royal Rumble
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
2
Closed:
11/29/2015 05:11
Tiers:
All
Winner:
fravel
Score:
56
Host:
kishoph
Your Position:
5
Your Score:
65
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]VOTSCC Bracket # 50
Type:
Stroke Play Bracket
Rounds:
4
Closed:
11/28/2015 16:36
Tiers:
All
Winner:
—
Score:
—
Host:
robmurphy4
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Bracket

[size=14]cluck's kiawah open II
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
11/27/2015 17:19
Tiers:
All
Winner:
kmamjmemedmmm
Score:
27
Host:
clucktrentsuperd
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]Arnie's Fall Tour No 14 Kaiawah Island (American O
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
11/29/2015 08:33
Tiers:
All
Winner:
kmamjmemedmmm
Score:
59
Host:
ArnieFinlay
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]Arnie's Fall Tour No 13 Bethpage (American Open 1)
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
11/29/2015 08:29
Tiers:
All
Winner:
nitramgoht
Score:
55
Host:
ArnieFinlay
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]cluck's clutch andy open
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
2
Closed:
11/24/2015 15:31
Tiers:
All
Winner:
kekanaranjo
Score:
54
Host:
clucktrentsuperd
Your Position:
14
Your Score:
WD
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]BANDON ISLE FR 9 TM
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
11/26/2015 12:19
Tiers:
Tour Master
Winner:
JimQ916
Score:
26
Host:
pdb1
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]BANDON GYPSIES FR 9 H - M
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
11/26/2015 12:18
Tiers:
Hack, Amateur, Pro, Tour Pro, Master
Winner:
CRTowr
Score:
29
Host:
pdb1
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]BANDON LAND FR 9 L-C
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
11/26/2015 12:15
Tiers:
Legend, Tour Legend, Champion, Tour Champion
Winner:
dschom5
Score:
21
Host:
pdb1
Your Position:
8
Your Score:
28
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]VOTSCC Bracket # 49
Type:
Stroke Play Bracket
Rounds:
4
Closed:
11/23/2015 07:37
Tiers:
All
Winner:
—
Score:
—
Host:
robmurphy4
Your Score:
WD
[/size]

Bracket

[size=14]KIAWAH BP OPEN L - TC TIER UP
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
11/22/2015 09:58
Tiers:
Legend, Tour Legend, Champion, Tour Champion
Winner:
kekanaranjo
Score:
26
Host:
JimQ916
Your Position:
10
Your Score:
33
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]KIAWAH B9 OPEN H - TM TIER UP
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
11/22/2015 09:38
Tiers:
Hack, Amateur, Pro, Tour Pro, Master, Tour Master
Winner:
BushwackerPete
Score:
30
Host:
JimQ916
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]Bracket Tournament #30 CTTH
Type:
CTTH Bracket
Rounds:
4
Closed:
11/24/2015 13:36
Tiers:
All
Winner:
—
Score:
—
Host:
JimQ916
Your Score:
WD
[/size]

Bracket

[size=14]PH #2 B9 Challange
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
11/22/2015 09:33
Tiers:
All
Winner:
dschom5
Score:
28
Host:
JimQ916
Your Position:
8
Your Score:
35
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]ANDY IS A SAINT F9 EASY
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
11/21/2015 10:02
Tiers:
All
Winner:
MGroza
Score:
28
Host:
JimQ916
Your Position:
9
Your Score:
33
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]Arnies Fall Tour No 12 Best of Par 5 the full Mont
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
11/21/2015 12:41
Tiers:
All
Winner:
nitramgoht
Score:
35
Host:
ArnieFinlay
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]Arnies Fall Tour No 11 Oakmouunt
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
1
Closed:
11/21/2015 12:04
Tiers:
All
Winner:
kmamjmemedmmm
Score:
57
Host:
ArnieFinlay
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]ROYALTY IT IS F9 / B9
Type:
Stroke Play
Rounds:
2
Closed:
11/18/2015 09:37
Tiers:
All
Winner:
NoFuneral
Score:
58
Host:
JimQ916
Your Position:
—
Your Score:
—
[/size]

Leaderboard

[size=14]VOTSCC Bracket # 48
Type:
Stroke Play Bracket
Rounds:
4
Closed:
11/17/2015 16:56
Tiers:
All[/size]

CC TOURNEY WINNERS FOR NOVEMBER 2015

30 Nov
CoryGRobinson came in first place in Tierless Chambers Bay Bracket 9H Free

30 Nov
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in Pinehurst #2 Randonized F9

29 Nov
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in Arnie's Fall Tour No 14 Kaiawah Island (American O.

29 Nov
nitramgoht came in first place in Arnie's Fall Tour No 13 Bethpage (American Open 1)

28 Nov
CoryGRobinson came in first place in Tierless Bracket 9H Free

27 Nov
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in cluck's kiawah open II.

27 Nov
kekanaranjo came in first place in cluck's clutch andy open.

27 Nov
paulleftypaul came in first place in Bracket Tournament #30 CTTH

26 Nov
JimQ916 came in first place in BANDON ISLE FR 9 TM.

26 Nov
CRTowr came in first place in BANDON GYPSIES FR 9 H - M.

26 Nov
dschom5 came in first place in BANDON LAND FR 9 L-C

26 Nov
nitramgoht came in first place in VOTSCC Bracket # 49

25 Nov
UZiBerlin came in first place in It's A Knockout

22 Nov
kekanaranjo came in first place in KIAWAH BP OPEN L - TC TIER UP.

22 Nov
BushwackerPete came in first place in KIAWAH B9 OPEN H - TM TIER UP.

22 Nov
dschom5 came in first place in PH #2 B9 Challange

21 Nov
nitramgoht came in first place in Arnies Fall Tour No 12 Best of Par 5 the full Mont

21 Nov
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in Arnies Fall Tour No 11 Oakmouunt.

21 Nov
MGroza came in first place in ANDY IS A SAINT F9 EASY.

21 Nov
NoFuneral came in first place in ROYALTY IT IS F9 / B9

20 Nov
dschom5 came in first place in VOTSCC Bracket # 48

19 Nov
kekanaranjo came in first place in Chambers Bay Dominates F9.

19 Nov
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in Famous Amos B9

18 Nov
paulleftypaul came in first place in CTTH Bracket #29

18 Nov
nitramgoht came in first place in BETH RULES RANDOM B9.

17 Nov
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in cluck's kiawah open I

16 Nov
Bertasion came in first place in ST. ANDY F9 EASY

16 Nov
kekanaranjo came in first place in PINEHURST #2 F9 EASY

15 Nov
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in VOTSCC Bracket # 47

15 Nov
fravel came in first place in VOTSCC Bracket # 47

14 Nov
CoryGRobinson came in first place in Tierless Bracket 9H Free.

14 Nov
dschom5 came in first place in Merion F9 / B9 TM -TC.

14 Nov
mrgain came in first place in Merion F9 / B9 H - M.

14 Nov
CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18H Tierless Bracket Tournament.

14 Nov
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in HIT IT LONG AND STRAIGHT (TM - TC).

14 Nov
BushwackerPete came in first place in HIT IT LONG AND STRAIGHT PAR 5'S ( H - M).

12 Nov
NoFuneral came in first place in Congressional F9 L - TC.

12 Nov
BushwackerPete came in first place in Congressional F9 H - TM.

12 Nov
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in BO Famous Holes.

12 Nov
Skip380 came in first place in CTTH Bracket # 28

11 Nov
CRTowr came in first place in Tour Pro Brackets 9H Free.

11 Nov
NoFuneral came in first place in cluck's easy living kiawah open

10 Nov
dschom5 came in first place in VOTSCC Bracket # 46

09 Nov
Skip380 came in first place in British Tour Bus.

09 Nov
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in St A Easy Easy

09 Nov
fravel came in first place in BPB Random Tees

09 Nov
NoFuneral came in first place in It's Raining 3's

08 Nov
JimQ916 came in first place in FORE PLAY TM's.

08 Nov
harry4364 came in first place in FORE PLAY M -.

08 Nov
dschom5 came in first place in FORE PLAY L + FR 9

08 Nov
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in Arnies Fall Tour No 10.

08 Nov
dschom5 came in first place in Arnie's Fall Tour No 9 Congressional

07 Nov
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in Bracket Tournament #27 (CCTH).
06 Nov
dschom5 came in first place in Oakmont CC Skills Challange
06 Nov
clucktrentsuperd came in first place in PUTT FOR DOUGH 3
06 Nov
fravel came in first place in Bracket Tournament #45 (Stroke)
04 Nov
CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18H Tierless Bracket Tournament
04 Nov
CoryGRobinson came in first place in Legend Bracket 9H Free

04 Nov
NoFuneral came in first place in Come into the Chambers B9.

04 Nov
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in Merion B9 Challange

04 Nov
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in ISLAND FUN
03 Nov
CoryGRobinson came in first place in 18H Tierless Bracket Tournament
02 Nov
Bertasion came in first place in St. Andy's F9 / B9 (Go Low & Tier up)
01 Nov
kmamjmemedmmm came in first place in CTTH Bracket # 26
01 Nov
dschom5 came in first place in VOTSCC Bracket # 44.
01 Nov
dschom5 came in first place in Arnies Fall Tour No 8 Best of Par 3.
01 Nov
dschom5 came in first place in Arnie's Fall Tour No 7 Olympic

HOW TO GET EVEN CLOSER THAN THE MINI VIEW

gr8flbob
579 Posts 06-30-2014 1:00 PM

My 2 cents: don't get hung up on the mini-map; as noted, any yardages are approximate. I believe the minimap pin is approximately center of green (i.e., the 'Card yardage'). Why not use some WGT other tools available? Below I'm facing the approach to SA #2 with short/left pin. I select the Green reverse camera view by selecting that cam on the mini-map, and select Pitch or Chip shot type, then click and hold the aiming point - voila! - up jumps the 10yd by 10 yd square pitch-grid contour map.

Move that aiming point around and you can get a feel for topograhy on the entire green complex! Even off-green, so long as part of that grid touches the green itself. Remember that elev shown is approximate (+/- half-foot) so I already know the pin itself is +4 ft, and changes to +3' (gets<3.5) just below the pin so it's ~ a foot and a half drop in ~ 7yds from where you see the aiming point above. Sharp-down and away.
Note the grid-lines are 2ft apart! Just like the putting or pitching grid shown during actual shot screen view when putting, chipping, pitching and flopping from close in. But now we're checking things out from 200+ yds from our lie.
If the pitch grid is so small you can't see the dots move, then resort to right-click/Zoom and blow it up (with cursor in region of interest, lol).