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by **Paul** Thu 15 Dec 2016, 8:14 pm

Re: VERY NEWEST WELCOMES

by pdb1 on Wed 12 Oct 2016 - 15:18

NEW PRE WELCOME WALL MESSAGE
" Hello ____ "
I am going to wait to see if you make any moves . Like friend the owner , or play a CC tourney or 2 , or post in the CC foruim . Before I welcome you .
If you do show some interest . You will be welcome with open arms . By myself and the rest of the CC .
Thanx
Paul

Hello Tony. Welcome to Valley of the SUN Casual Club CC . VOTSCC .

Here is your CC forum welcome " PLEASE WELCOME NEW RECRUIT TONYB1226" Please respond to this . It is our way of shaking your hand .
Please respond to this forum welcome . It is our way of shaking your hand .
In this CC . We encourage friending the members at your convenience . Please start by friending the Owner . Me pdb1 . And JimQ916 . Our Tournament Director .

Thanx

Paul
Don't forget to sign into our very cool website :
https://www.valleyofthesuncc.com/
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May the SUN always be with you "

Below are a few easy steps to take to become a full member

1) Participate in CC tourneys

2) Keep current in the WGT CC forum . Making a periodic post so we know you are still part of the team .
https://www.wgt.com/clubs/valley_of_the_sun_casual_club/forum/default.aspx

3) Register in our website / forum . Please use your WGT username

https://www.valleyofthesuncc.com/

4) Communicate with owner just enough to know you are human . That would be me Just enough to have a rapport .

5)  Friending all other CC members at your convenience is also part of the communication needed in VOTSCC .
Please start by friending the Owner . Me pdb1 . And JimQ916 . Our Tournament Director .
Please message me with any questions .
Thanx
Paul
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by **Paul** Thu 15 Dec 2016, 8:16 pm

Please welcome "GabyGolfGirl" to our CC . This is your CC Forum welcome . These gr8 guys & gals will welcome you . Friend you , and play matches with you . You can ask fellow members or this forum anything you want to know . If we don't know it . We will find it .
We have the best tourneys , a stroke bracket and a CTTH bracket running all the time . A daily BLITZ . CTTH Skills challenges . In CC stroke and match play titles . And other cool stuff .

Please respond to this forum welcome . It is our way of shaking your hand .
In this CC .

We encourage friending the members at your convenience .

Please start by friending the Owner . Me pdb1 . And JimQ916 . Our Tournament Director .

Playing a couple CC tourneys .

And signing into our very cool website :
https://www.valleyofthesuncc.com/

When you look at the first page of our CC forum . The first half of it . You will find dozens of posts and links and URL's of interest inside those stickied threads . There is no search feature in these CC forums . So important topical categories are stored in those sticky's.When you get a chance . Please check them out .

Please enjoy .

Thanx

Paul
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May the SUN always be with you

Below are 4 of the main CC forum threads with the links and titles to much information .
There are many more threads in the CC forum .
Please review the first one . At your liesure .

IMPORTANT NOTICE TO ALL NEW RECRUITS
COMMONLY USED OR INTERESTING POSTS
LINKS TO CUSTOM TOURNEYS , BLITZES , CTTH'S , INTERPLAYS , BRACKETS
ALL THE LINKS TO IMPORTANT TOPICS ; PLEASE READ

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by **Paul** Sat 24 Dec 2016, 12:14 am

Hello . My name is Paul . I noticed that your owner has abandoned you Leaving you with no leadership , guidance , assistance .
We have all that and more .

Since you seem to be somewhat active .

I would like to invite you to take a look at our CC .

Valley of the SUN Casual Club CC

We have a CC for you to consider . An all tiers CC where everyone is equal and has a voice in everything . An environment with custom CC tourneys with unlimited play . The ultimate way to hone your skills , lower your average , and move up in tiers . Amongst a team of players that support you , help you , friend you . and have your back . A CC with no minimums or mandatories no purchases or pressure to do anything but what your own personal schedule will allow .

If you desire to be active and have fun .

I invite you to take a look .

Our homepage http://www.wgt.com/clubs/valley_of_the_sun_casual_club/default.aspx

Our website
https://www.valleyofthesuncc.com/

Our CC Corner thread

VALLEY of the SUN C C invites

Thank you

Paul

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by **Paul** Sat 24 Dec 2016, 8:37 pm

Hello
The best wishes to you and yours . Seasons Greetings , Merry Christmas . And a Safe and Happy New Year .
Paul & Family & VOTSCC

by **Paul** Tue 31 Jan 2017, 6:38 am

I'm Paul
Thank you for choosing VOTSCC . You will like it here .

The 3 easy tasks below . Will get a full member

A) Please respond to your CC forum welcome .

B) Play a CC tourney

C) And register in our very cool website with your WGT username https://www.valleyofthesuncc.com/ .

Those 3 tasks are very simple and not too much to ask . If you are interested in being a part of this very cool CC . Then please attend to the 3 easy steps above .

The top half of the CC forum is comprised of stickies . Each one is full of links posts information , tutorials . Very good to know stuff . Below that and on page 2 are the current posts .

UPDATED WELCOMES AND MESSAGES Sticky15

After that I trust members to play when they can . Enjoy whatever formats and events that they like .

There are no minimums , or mandatories

In the CC forum . Please read it . No socializing is asked . Just a periodic post or inquiry , comment , tip , or a simple UGH , BOO , or FCK YOU to show your presence and pride in being in VOTSCC . Complete silence is not acceptable . It drives me crazy . Lol .

Feel right at home . Ask me or the forum anything you would like to know . I promise you will enjoy your self .

That is it .Please enjoy

Thanx

Paul
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by **Paul** Sat 04 Feb 2017, 7:58 am

by **Paul** Mon 06 Feb 2017, 8:09 pm

Here are a few post of interest .

9 = 72 ANOTHER IMPORTANT FACT

WHY ARE UNLIMITED PLAY CC TOURNEYS SO BENEFICIAL

IMPORTANT NOTICE TO ALL NEW RECRUITS new info

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by **Paul** Mon 06 Feb 2017, 8:20 pm

Hello E W Welcome to Valley of the SUN Casual Club CC . VOTSCC .

This is an active CC . I hope that is why you chose VOTSCC .

Here is your CC forum welcome" PLEASE WELCOME NEW RECRUIT EWILLIAMS63 "

Please respond to this forum welcome . It is our way of shaking your hand .

Please get familiar with our CC tourneys . And play one as soon as possible .

Our CC tourneys are our main draw . These unlimited play , single player , tiered tourneys are ideal for honing your skills , lowering your average , and moving up in tier .

Please sign into our very cool website : Please use your WGT username .

hhttps://www.valleyofthesuncc.com/

The 3 tasks above will get you full membership After that I trust members to play according to their own schedules . There are no minimums or mandatories . Be somewhat visible and available to me an the CC at times . Just not a complete hermit .

In this CC . We encourage friending the members at your convenience . Please start by friending the Owner .

Me
pdb1. And JimQ916 . Our Tournament Director . Once we are friended . I will message you .

Please enjoy

Thank you

Play well and Have fun

Paul

VOTSCC

home of https://www.valleyofthesuncc.com/
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by **Paul** Tue 07 Feb 2017, 9:20 pm

  In the event of a tie, the better scoring entrant between or among the tied entrants will be the entrant with the lowest combined score for the final nine (9) holes of the Game.

If any ties remain, the better scoring entrant between or among the remaining tied entrants will be the entrant with the lowest combined score for the final six (6) holes for such Game.

   If any ties remain, the better scoring entrant between or among the remaining tied entrants will be the entrant with the lowest combined score for the final three (3) holes for such Game.

So basically the person who made the last birdie in the round will win the tie breaker .

The better one plays toward the end of the round . The more likely you will win the tie breaker .

by **Paul** Thu 09 Feb 2017, 6:44 pm

Hi Rich . i said I would send you some info . I have pages and pages written about how i envision our CC running . How it has run in the past . How it is running now .
All of it available to be read in my free to do anything with no strings website . i know about the nay sayers that say that nothing is free .
but I can garraunty that when you visit my site you leave with more than you came with as far as info or knowledge .
I pay for it to be completely ad free and I personally remove any spam .
But the website has little or nothing to do with our WGT CC .
The links below are the best way to take a look at what we are from the outside

Our homepage http://www.wgt.com/clubs/valley_of_the_sun_casual_club/default.aspx

Our website
https://www.valleyofthesuncc.com/

Our CC Corner thread

VALLEY of the SUN C C invites

If you go to the website . There are dozens of forums and topics to find various info in . This one has some CC stuff in it .
VOTSCC CC CLUBHOUSE

What our CC is and has is 45 very good people / members / players that play when their schedule allows . Some are into XP's some are not . They are not required . We have cool custom CC tourneys mostly free with a couple premium , Brackets , BLITZes , CTTH's , In CC Stroke and Match play titles .


When one joins our CC You get 2 welcomes . 1 from me on your wall http://www.wgt.com/members/shootercan/default.aspx

that has a link to 1 that will say

  PLEASE WELCOME NEW RECRUIT SHOOTERCANNON"

  On you profile page / wall . There is your personal welcome .
In that it asks that

  you to respond to this CC forum welcome
play CC tourneys when you can ( hopefully one right away )
register in our website with your WGT username

https://www.valleyofthesuncc.com/

  Please try to attend to those 3 tasks . When you have done all 3 . You will be a full member

That is it . After that I trust everyone to just be a good CC member .

Thank you

Paul

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May the SUN always be with you

by **Paul** Sun 12 Feb 2017, 10:12 pm

You likely have not seen the message for you in HEY NOW: IMPORTANT NOTICE TO ALL NEW RECRUITS new info

You may not even have seen this message on your wall .
"Hi "
It is obvious that you have no plans to complete your registration . I will be removing you soon .

If you have a change of heart .There will always be a door open to you.

Paul

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by **Paul** Fri 17 Feb 2017, 10:24 pm

The best way for me to start is for you to learn about WGT . Learn why there is no better way to learn this game than to create and play custom made CC unlimited play tourneys . I have long posts in the main forums . But they are very hard to find . i have even longer posts in my CC forum . You cannot access them . I have copied many many tons of good information in my website . A website free and safe and designed for anyone that wants to utilize it . There is never an obligation there . Only that you enjoy . There are many users from other CC's and many not from CC's .
A normal registration to sign in with an email . Which you have already given me . So since I can gaurantee your privacy . i am going to admin you a profile . To use to get information or jokes , or entertainment , or anything that strikes you .
WGT usernames are recommended .

Shawnskey

schillianskeysshawn@gmail.com

the1shawn ( password )

should be auto login .

Paul

Here are a few links to get you started . Each forum is filled with topics and pages of info .

VOTSCC CC CLUBHOUSE

UPDATED WELCOMES AND MESSAGES Default13

SATURATE / AVERAGE / TIER REQUIREMENTS scroll down and read about unlimited play .

UPDATED WELCOMES AND MESSAGES Default13

HOW TO MAKE THIS ALL WORK :

VOTSCC's GREEN MONSTER

VALLEY OF THE FUN

DON"T CHOKE IT "JOKE IT "

Just for starters .

Our homepage http://www.wgt.com/clubs/valley_of_the_sun_casual_club/default.aspx

Our website
https://www.valleyofthesuncc.com/

Our CC Corner thread

VALLEY of the SUN C C invites

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by **Paul** Fri 24 Feb 2017, 4:11 pm

Hello . You look like you are an active player

My name is Paul
We are Valley of the SUN Casual Club C C .
We are an all tier , all friendly , no minimums , no mandatories . no pressure , no purchases . 100% supportive of all members CC . . A top opportunity to hone your skills , lower your average , move up in tirs CC All while having fun. In the best supportive environment . With all the information you will eve need . Tiered tourneys with varying conditions to help you learn the courses better. With unlimited play . The most important feature .

For you to consider .

Please take a look .

Our homepage http://www.wgt.com/clubs/valley_of_the_sun_casual_club/default.aspx

Our website
https://www.valleyofthesuncc.com/

Our CC Corner thread

VALLEY of the SUN C C invites

Paul

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by **Paul** Thu 02 Mar 2017, 8:19 pm

Hi I'm Paul

Thanx for the alt shot round .

We have a nice casual 35 member CC you might be interested in .

Valley of the SUN Casual Club CC

No pressure , no minimums , no mandatories . No moron Club Officers seriously . The CLASH is completely voluntary . Never asked to spend money . XP's are optional if you like em. Go for them .

I invite you to take a look .

Our homepage http://www.wgt.com/clubs/valley_of_the_sun_casual_club/default.aspx

Our website
https://www.valleyofthesuncc.com/

Our CC Corner thread

VALLEY of the SUN C C invites

Paul

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May the SUN always be with you

by **Paul** Mon 06 Mar 2017, 11:22 pm

Kind of out of left field dr.

[quote user="drmoose"]
Okay Paul, I'm really going to go out on a limb here an' say what I think most of the forum community is thinking. It's great that you're observant, and follow most of the threads here, but, please don't feel so motivated to dominate every topic ad nauseum. Throw in a little humor, keep it brief, cut down on the cut an' paste ( we've already seen it ) in general, a lil' here an' there an' your forum approval rating will sky rocket. Oh, an' stirrin' chit up is gonna bite ya sooner or later.
Doc

Well dr I am sorry you don't like me . That is your choice . I have no problem with you whatsoever . Nor with practically everyone else .
I use these forums for what the topics present . If they interest me I get involved . I do not ever try and follow any of them . Do not look for threads to post in . But will not hesitate to comment . . Besides the dozens of topics about WGT online golf . That I have read and learned so much from . I have also learned from countless other non golf topics .
Not known for " stirrin chit up " at all . There have been a number of individuals that have been less than welcoming , and some almost consistently rude and disrespectful . Not just to me but mostly . I don't always feel the need to retort . And when I do . It is not even half the level of tastelessness coming at me .
For example You made your post after I made this one .
[quote user="pdb1"]
[quote user="alcaucin"]

Such a shame.....
Great premis that was hijacked by the plebians.
Andy

[/quote]
Okay Mr. Kettle . Or are you Mr. Pot ?
[/quote]

Fairly harmless ( harmless considering who I am addressing ) ironic observation .
Hardly what one would call " stirring chit up " .

drmoose:
Throw in a little humor

Lol. Not for lack of trying . But if you can't tell . Oh well .

[/quote]

These are the main forums on the enormous WGT online virtual golf site . The diversity of it's posters is even bigger than the site and its forums .
Yet the main forums are a completely insignificant feature here .
Meaning that while you think that I may be posting too much . Is really the same as not posting at all .
Because statistics have shown that there isn't even a measurable number of percentage of WGT users that even know these forums exist . Much less come here to use them .
And to ad to that . My opinion based on actual experience and comments made to me on the courses and by PM messaging . A gr8 many players that are aware of these forums and still never use them . Would not based on the negativity and common knowledge that one is likely to be attacked , degraded , discredited , etc .
All of which can be attributed to a certain number of users that are much more familiar with these forums than I .
As I have never been on that end . Most times trying to defend the ones that don't have a chance . And not given a chance .
Having been the recipient of many of those beat downs . I am able to hold my ground and keep my composure . Polite and mature .
But even though I am not phased by those . I would rather they never happened . Would rather only be involved in positive and informative , comical , interesting threads

[quote user="drmoose"]

. Okay Paul, I'm really going to go out on a limb here an' say what I think most of the forum community is thinking.
[/quote]
That surely would be going out on a limb dr .

I suggest that you would be wrong . I just have a feeling . But you could be right .

If you are ? Then it takes all types . And I am just one of them .

by **Paul** Thu 09 Mar 2017, 11:01 pm

This little lass hardly needs an introduction . But definitely needs a huge welcome . So glad to see you .
A woman of her word . Very nice . Has returned to the haven in the SUN .
Please everyone welcome Kelly .
A normal welcome just doesn't seem fitting . So I'll just say . You can do whatever you friggin want .
We have several GR8 new players you will want to meet .

Enjoy being in the SUN once again .

by **Paul** Thu 09 Mar 2017, 11:07 pm

Hi Kelly
Welcome to Valley of the SUN Casual Club C C .
Here is your CC forum welcome
PLEASE WELCOME NEW RECRUIT KOTYSKELLY

Please enjoy
Paul

by **Paul** Sat 11 Mar 2017, 8:48 pm

by **Paul** Mon 13 Mar 2017, 7:40 am

Hi _ Paul here . How are you liking the CC ? I hope you are finding enough of the right formats for your selection of choice . If not please speak up and we will be sure to accommodate that . That is the most important . Is providing you what helps you most .

Also you probably get that you can say anything here especially to me without fear of repercussions . I encourage everyone from all perspectives to feel free to voice their opinions .

I also believe that family , work , school , and personal come first . Always . I do appreciate a heads up if something is going to take you away from WGT for a spell . That makes it all good and your place here in the CC secure .

Please read the update VOTSCC TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT . To get an idea of the basic protocol .

Fell free to message me with anything at all . And please respond to this message .
Thanx
Paul

by **Paul** Mon 13 Mar 2017, 10:11 am

Valley of the SUN Casual Club C C

All tiers are welcome . But this is mostly a message to middle and lower tiers .

We have a CC for everyone . Our tiered custom tourneys . And boatload of information . Make our tourneys the ultimate practice round that counts . The unlimited play feature is a very smart idea .

By using the restart option in the menu . That allows you to restart your round at any time during the round before the end of the 9th or 18th hole . Anything played does not count with no repercussions . Only the round you finish will count.

Game completion percentage is not enabled in unlimited play rounds . ( green , orange , yellow icon ) Are not effected .

If the round isn't going the way you like . You just restart it as many times as you like until you get a score you can live with . Finish the round . And it's the only one that counts

With custom tiered tourneys . Meaning the variables are adjusted differently on every course every time . This gives you the ability to hone and sharpen your game . Lower your scores , and move up in tiers .

All in a fun environment where all players are supporting and pulling for everyone . At all times . Every player has an equal voice .

For more information about this exciting CC . See our thread in CC Corner .

VALLEY of the SUN C C invites

Our homepage http://www.wgt.com/clubs/valley_of_the_sun_casual_club/default.aspx

Our website
https://www.valleyofthesuncc.com/


Thank you

Paul

by **Paul** Tue 14 Mar 2017, 5:44 pm

Hello Greg , Darrell and Terri ;

How are you guys and gal ? . I am messaging you because you are mobile players .

We have a few adventuristic mobile players . Who feel that with some friendly cooperation that a stroke play CC vs CC interplay type event could be played . 3 of us vs the 3 of you .

I am hoping you all like this idea . And can set something up with our 3 mobile players .

Kevin and I are currently negotiating another CC vs CC Interplay . And because of the possibility that a ground breaking Mobile Interplay in stroke play format could be played . Coinciding with our interplay . Which would also be played in stroke play format . Sounds very exciting to me .

Would the 3 of you be willing to talk to our 3 mobile players about this idea ?

Please let me know .

Thanx

Paul

by **Paul** Wed 15 Mar 2017, 5:53 pm

by **Paul** Sat 22 Apr 2017, 10:27 am

Hello Bobby. Welcome to Valley of the SUN Casual Club CC . VOTSCC .

I have tried 4 or 5 times to friend you . When the owner of a CC cannot friend his members . That means he cannot PM them either . That is a problem .

Please read your welcome and respond accordingly .

Thanx

Paul

May the SUN always be with you

Here is your CC forum welcome "   PLEASE WELCOME NEW RECRUIT CARDOZABOBBY "

Please respond to this forum welcome . It is our way of shaking your hand .

Please get familiar with our CC tourneys . And play one as soon as possible .

Don't forget to sign into our very cool website with your WGT username .

  https://www.valleyofthesuncc.com/



The 3 tasks above will get you full membership After that I trust members to play according to their own schedules .

There are no minimums or mandatories .

Be somewhat visible and available to me and the CC at times . Just not a complete hermit .

In this CC . We encourage friending the members at your convenience . Please start by friending the Owner .

Me pdb1 . And JimQ916 . Our Tournament Director . Once we are friended . I will message you .

Thanx

Paul

Thank you

Paul

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by **Paul** Mon 24 Apr 2017, 11:40 pm

On behalf of VOTSCC . We here in the Mobile Division of VOTSCC . Wish to thank Ladyshewolf0 and the LEGEND OF SHEWOLF for our well fought battle in the TURFWARS . And wish you the very best .
Paul
VOTSCC

by **Paul** Wed 26 Apr 2017, 5:54 pm

This is what your text would look like if you didn't change the color to yellow .

by **Paul** Mon 01 May 2017, 6:05 pm

by **Paul** Sun 07 May 2017, 11:27 am

Hi I'm Paul . Nice to meet you .

My objective is to try and create the best environment for you to spend your time in WGT .

That will be up to you . Once you register . You will be on your own to utilize whatever formats and events that interest you . According to your schedule . More about that later .

First you must friend the owner me pdb1 . And JimQ916  our tournament director


Then you must complete the registration .

A) Respond to your CC forum welcome . It is our way of shaking your hand and welcoming you to the team . You are now part of a team . We need to know that you are on board .

B) Play some CC tourneys . I don't care if you play WGT tourneys too . But you must play some CC tourneys .

C) Register in our cool and safe website . With your WGT username . There are many reasons for this . But it is a part of our CC .

That is it . Then you become a full member .

It is then that I trust that you will be a good CC member . And I won't have to pay attention to you .

What I mean by good CC member . At the very least . That means playing a CC tourney now and then . And making a remark like an UGH , a BOO , or a FCK YOU now and then in the CC forum . That will show your presence . And prove you want to be here . No socializing . Just a 1 or 2 word remark in the CC forum .

That and all the above is the very minimal to be a part of VOTSCC . And must voluntarily agree to all of it . If you do not agree with any of it . And are not willing to talk to me about it . Then please do not waste any more of your time or mine . Please just remove yourself and go .

But if you don't have a problem with any of that . We are very happy to have you . We have some fun cool people and events here . We are a team . And as a team we all respect and encourage and assist each other in any way we can . We have your back . And will go out of our way to help you in any way you may need .

There is a lot more than this to being in a CC like ours . But the above will get you started .
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Thank you .

by **Paul** Fri 09 Jun 2017, 7:11 pm

For any of you that are still looking . VOTSCC is a good choice for many.
My name is Paul
We are Valley of the SUN Casual Club C C .
If you desire to be active . And learn how to be the best WGT golfer you can be . Then i invite you to take a look .
Have are an all tier , all friendly , no minimums , no mandatories . no pressure , no purchases . 100% supportive of all members CC . . A top opportunity to hone your skills , lower your average , move up in tirs CC All while having fun. For you to consider .
Please take a look .

Our homepage http://www.wgt.com/clubs/valley_of_the_sun_casual_club/default.aspx

Our website
https://www.valleyofthesuncc.com/

Our CC Corner thread

VALLEY of the SUN C C invites

Paul

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May the SUN always be with you

by **Paul** Sun 02 Jul 2017, 3:38 am

Hi
How are you ? I hope well . Are you liking the CC ? If I haven't played a round with you . I definitely want to . Sometimes the best way is to message first .
If you haven't posted anything in the forum lately . Please do so . So I know you know where it is .
I need you to please respond to this message .
It is painless .
Thanx
Please enjoy
Play well
Paul
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by **Paul** Sun 09 Jul 2017, 9:35 am

THE FORUM INDEX PAGE 1

Because there is no search feature in the CC forum . I have condensed many url's , links , and topics into the first sticky posts on page 1 Here they are . Some are very important . Please read .

GREETINGS TO ALL YOU GR8 VOTSCCers

COMMONLY USED OR INTERESTING POSTS

IMPORTANT NOTICE TO ALL NEW RECRUITS new info

JIM'S CORNER....HOW TO HAVE FUN IN THE SUN

LINKS TO CUSTOM TOURNEYS , BLITZES , CTTH'S , INTERPLAYS , BRACKETS

JIM'S CORNER....LAUGH IT UP

ALL THE LINKS TO IMPORTANT TOPICS ; PLEASE READ

All topics below this are current topics for the next 5 pages

by **Paul** Tue 08 Aug 2017, 6:42 pm

Hi
Welcome to VOTSCC

This is an active and communicative CC .

. Please click on this link below to get started .
NEW PROCEDURE FOR RECRUITS
This is important . . Because this is a very good opportunity for you .
Thank you

Paul

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by **Paul** Tue 08 Aug 2017, 9:11 pm

GREETINGS TO ALL YOU GR8 VOTSCCers
IMPORTANT NOTICE TO ALL NEW RECRUITS new info
COMMONLY USED OR INTERESTING POSTS
LINKS TO CUSTOM TOURNEYS , BLITZES , CTTH'S , INTERPLAYS , BRACKETS
JIM'S CORNER....HOW TO HAVE FUN IN THE SUN
JIM'S CORNER....LAUGH IT UP
ALL THE LINKS TO IMPORTANT TOPICS ; PLEASE READ

by **Paul** Fri 08 Sep 2017, 7:09 pm

Unfortunately you are being removed for lack of everything . Everything is all spelled out .
If in the future you have a change of heart . You may return .
Paul

by **Paul** Sun 17 Sep 2017, 11:05 am

SGTBilko wrote the following post at Sat, Dec 22 2012 7:58 AM:
Have you ever wondered why is it that your shot can be dead on pin on one shot and other times completely off? It's because the game is designed that way! Golfing on WGT is based upon mathematical algorithms that create everything from the shot to the ball roll out when it hits. Unlike real golf, mathematical algorithms have no variances. To create these variances WGT has employed such things as VEM, precision and forgiveness into the model to simulate or re-create those effects that every real golfer knows all too well that affect their shots.
The two factors that will affect your shot outcome the most are precision and forgiveness. Each and every club on WGT has a 5 dot rating for each of these categories. Using the picture below let’s say that precision is left and right of the pin location and forgiveness is long or short of the pins location. While the exact distance that each dot represents is not known for this example let’s say that a club with zero dots on forgiveness and precision represents 20 feet for each circle.
UPDATED WELCOMES AND MESSAGES Precision%20and%20forgiveness

UPDATED WELCOMES AND MESSAGES Precision%20and%20forgiveness

During each and every shot these 2 circles overlap. Each shot has multiple outcomes 1. You could be dead on with distance, but up to 20 feet left or right of the hole. 2. You could be dead the hole but 20 feet long or short of the hole. 3. You could be up to20 feet long and left of the hole…..4, 5, 6, etc. I think you get the point .
UPDATED WELCOMES AND MESSAGES 12-22-2012%209-12-03%20AM

UPDATED WELCOMES AND MESSAGES 12-22-2012%209-12-03%20AM

Now, using the example below let’s say that each dot added to the club represents 2 feet. The more dots a club has the tighter the circle becomes. If each dot represents 2 feet we now have reduced our circles from 20 feet down to 10 feet in our example. I know there are some on here that believe that WGT or the game selectively goes after them individually, this is either pure arrogance or narcissistic at best.
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As you can see, with precision and forgiveness coming in to play on each shot, it doesn't matter if we ding the shot or not these variables will always affect the shot. Like many of you I have on occasion missed the ding by a decent amount and still came up with a great shot as well as the complete opposite. I am sure if each of you think back you have had the same happen to you.

by **Paul** Wed 27 Sep 2017, 4:33 pm

Reference Number: 0398 6753

Intel System Identification Utility Reference Number: 0398 6753
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by **Paul** Fri 29 Sep 2017, 8:26 pm

by **Paul** Sat 30 Sep 2017, 1:53 am

THE BIG SECRET IS FINALLY OUT
WELCOME RWM8634 50th member for the 50th time
WELCOME TO "DRYSPOT" a good old friend
PLEASE WELCOME NEW RECRUIT CRUSTYDEMON1
THANK YOU FOR THE THANK YOU BUT WHO ARE YOU ?
NICE TO SEE HARRY STILL CARES
"BERTASION SAYIN"
AUSSIE OR AZ CAN'T GET AWAY FROM THE HEAT

by **Paul** Sun 01 Oct 2017, 4:13 am

Not up for restoring 10's of millions of accounts this morning Scott ? That's a Shame . Lol . I think they just about have it .

Support (WGT)
Sep 30, 10:43 AM PDT
Dear Paul,
Rest assured the media bar will be reclaimed as we are working on it right now. I do not have a time frame at this point but these are not lost items that will never be coming back on the WGT forums or messages.

Please do not hesitate to contact us again if you have any other questions or concerns.

Sincerely,

WGT Member Services

by **Paul** Sun 01 Oct 2017, 4:18 am

conveyorguy wrote
on 30 Sep 2017 at 4:55 PM
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Well said as always Sir...and a big thanx to all who go "Above and Beyond" for the rest of u

by **Paul** Tue 03 Oct 2017, 4:28 am

Hi Jake .
I am Okay .Now you understand that what seems so simple to us . Just isn't shared by MOST of the WGT umniverse .
I know Chaz very well . And dozens of other CC owners that have so many elements that would logically spell success .
I know dozens . But there are 10's of thousands of CC's struggling in much the same way .
There are many theories as to why this is the case . It boils down to a couple things
A) A breakdown and lack of consideration and efforts made by admin to communicate and provide many resource and information to the WGT universe . An irresponsible and counter productive disconnect is the result .
Too ,many areas across the board to list . That would be a good start .

Another huge factor falls on the majority of WGTers . Who are unwilling to step up and cooperate with the many efforts and commitments , ,protocols , communications , That it takes on our part to of help this whole thing to be a success . Too much ignorance , resistance , negativity , doubt and complacency .

Too much of that from both sides . makes it very hard to maintain much less begin any forward momentum , hope , progression or success .

by **Paul** Tue 03 Oct 2017, 4:28 pm

http://www.wgt.com/Themes/wgt/images/icon-quote.gif

by **Paul** Tue 03 Oct 2017, 4:32 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBCode

by **Paul** Tue 03 Oct 2017, 4:37 pm

Ladychipper wrote the following post at Thu, May 29 2014 5:40 AM:

Greetings all….

there is a factory in Northern Minnesota that makes the Tickle Me
Elmo toys. The toy laughs when you tickle it under the arm. Here is
a true story:

Lena was hired at the factory and she reported for her 1st day
promptly at 8:00 a.m. The following day, at 8:45, there was a knock
at the personnel manager's door. The foreman from the assembly line
threw open the door and began to rant about his new employee, Lena.
He complained that she was incredibly slow and that the entire
production line was behind schedule and backing up!

The personnel manager decided he should see this for himself, so
the two men marched down to the factory floor. When they got there,
the line was so backed up, there were Tickle Me Elmos all over the
factory floor and they were really beginning to pile up at the end
of the line stood Lena, surrounded by mountains of Tickle Me Elmos.

She had a roll of plush red fabric and a huge bag of small marbles.
The two men watched in amazement as she cut a little piece of
fabric, wrapped it around two marbles and began carefully to sew the
little package between Elmo's legs.

The personnel manager stared for a few seconds, saw what was
happening, and burst into laughter. After several minutes of
hysterics, he pulled himself together and approached Lena. "I'm
sorry," he said to her. Barely able to keep a straight face, he
said, "I think you misunderstood the instructions given you
yesterday. Your job is to give each Elmo two test tickles ..."

God Bless You,
Marion :-)

Have an Awesome Day, unless you've made other plans!!

by **Paul** Tue 03 Oct 2017, 4:53 pm

Not even announcement of a *downtime* to fix it .

No . But i got this message .

Support (WGT) Dear Paul, Rest assured the media bar will be reclaimed as we are working on it right now. I do not have a time frame at this point but these are not lost items that will never be coming back on the WGT forums or messages................................................................... Please do not hesitate to contact us again if you have any other questions or concerns. Sincerely,................................................................................................................ WGT Member Services...

I don't know where this one came from but it seems to be a response .

hi guys ill be sure to let them know about this issue... thank for you all of your polite reports -wgticon

by **Paul** Wed 04 Oct 2017, 4:37 am

This is a copy of my last letter to member services .
ATTENTION MODERATORS
DO NOT POST THIS POST

What the hell is going on here ? None of my last 5 posts in this thread have ever appeared . None of them have questionable content . Not even the joke by ladychipper .
LOOK AT ALL OF THEM . And look at the ones you did approve . I do not understand . Am I banned from the forums ? I would like an explanation please . I am not violating the T & C in anyway .

If this is the way it is going to be . Let me know . I will make arrangements to relinquish ownership of my CC to someone . and YOU CAN DELETE MY ACCOUNT You will have to allow me to post in this forum to find a replacement . My CC members aren't dumb enough to accept the role of owner . PLEASE LET ME KNOW .

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When I asked to be taken off moderation . I got this response . .........................

hi

your previous behavior has made that impossible to do right now. maybe in 2018.......................

Lol . whatever . That was in mid August after a couple months of moderation . After 5 years 17,000 posts . I am supposed to live with that . ..........................Now my posts aren't even approved . ....................

by **Paul** Fri 06 Oct 2017, 1:28 pm

M M . I am certain that you are not alone . The many frustrations that one can encounter here test us all the time . .......Just last week after realizing that moderation meant that 50% of my posts would not be approved . And would not get posted . Not because of content . Just some kind of power trip . .So I have asked them if this is the way it's going to always be . ? No response of course . .............But I did ask them to allow me to post ads in the main forums to find a replacement to relinquish ownership of my CC to someone willing . None of my members will accept . Lol . God bless them . They are too smart . ..............Anyway I am pretty much done myself . ............But I wouldn't abandon my CC without making the proper transfer arrangements . ..And yes , the complete lack of in house forum support . The complete detachment from the WGT users by the moderation dept. And the closed lip , keep us in the dark policies from admin . 3 different departments with little to no customer relations . Has had a part in my decision . Among many other areas that i am just done with . .....
I just decided that I will not post this . Instead I will edit it in late in another post . ...........Everytime I forget to screenshot my post . It never gets posted .

by **Paul** Sat 07 Oct 2017, 9:04 am

Icon is right . The technicians have a mess of a mess to mess with . So we blame them for the mess .
Then there is the moderation department . Icon's hideaway . It is there that most of our complaints and concerns and problems are directed . Icons few posts in the last few months do not save his ass . He and the rest of his crew are the we are asking to be more forthcoming with pertinent information that we can relate to and take in good faith that they care enough make the efforts we are all asking for .
To at least act a little like a support forum . I know you claim not to be . But maybe you should consider it .
We are not complaining or having many issues at all with Customer support . Almost unanimous reports of top notch service to all .
Admin has to also be responsible for not delegating to the proper departments . Exactly what their role is . Put their foot down and get this on track . IMSO .
Paul

by **Paul** Sun 15 Oct 2017, 6:08 am

by **Paul** Sat 04 Nov 2017, 1:54 am

by **Paul** Thu 14 Dec 2017, 9:53 pm

Hi
You are being removed for lack of communication and activity .

We wish you the very best .

If you ever have a change of heart . There will always be a door open for you .

Paul
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