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It's been a while since I expressed some of my objectives for the CC . First of all I like and respect everyone that joins our club . I realize that not everyone knows what a CC is all about . Many have different reasons for joining . I really don't know how many of the other clubs are run . They are all different . What I want to emphasize in our CC is that whatever tier you are . That you feel comfortable here , part of a team of players that come here to find conditions that enable them to improve their game , hone their skills , lower their scores ,lower their averages , move up in tiers . Enjoyably and comfortably with the conditions that challenge them enough to keep that drive without the frustrationsof regular game play . All that is completely possible by either creating those tourneys yourself or by messaging me about it . Or someone else in your tier that has been creating tourneys . Any kind of information that you need to know should be provided here , any kind of appp , calculator , help , tutorial , tournament , statistic , message , opinion , gripe , compliment , etc , etc . Should able to be aqcuired here ( or in our website , as it may be easier there ). With your help , all of this can be done easily . We already have a good start . I am going to be here for a very long time trying to achieve all this . For any of you that think it's a good direction for your CC to go in . Then lets keep on keepin on . Sincerely , Your Co team member PDB1 , Paul ( sitting here on a rare rainy day ) May the SUN always be with you
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Re: Where are the Flags ?By Bertasion in Valley of the Sun Casual Club The other day upon the heather fair I hit a flagstick that was not there. I saw it's shadow and heard the clank but where it stood was just a blank. It was not there again today. I wonder when it will come back and stay. Brian
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THE AMAZING YET PATHETIC FORUMS

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subject title THE AMAZING YET PATHETIC FORUMS

Post by Paul Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:08 pm

originally written in the WGT Forums .

  For lack of a better place to speak . Without creating a new thread . My memories take me back years ago .

  When the locals made it a point to challenge and dispute and discredit much of what anyone else had to say .

  Especially newbies .

  And myself . I wasn't a newbie . But I had plenty of views and perspectives and content for them to challenge . And they did . They took anything I said . Turned it inside out and backwards . Disputing and discrediting and challenging it all .

  I engaged in return . I tried to keep up . I did everything to validate my points . And I admit . It was hard . They kicked my ass up one side and down the other . I really didn't have a prayer in their forum their environment . But I never backed down . I was never butt hurt . Or took any of the personal slurs to heart . Ever . That didn't bother me . In fact none of it ever got to me . Even though I was on the losing end . Not a snowballs chance in hell I would let it bother me . I'm not a hater and I never felt they were actual haters either . We just heavily engaged .

  I always knew my convictions were right . I didn't know or care if they believed anything I said . I assumed not . Or maybe they did ? IDK & IDC .

  Those times were fully involved . We went through 100's of pages . Some unfortunately got deleted eventually . Some are still here deep in the archives .

  During my 6 wonderful years as the owner of a CC . VALLEY OF THE SUN CASUAL CLUB C C . For any that did not know . I spent a GR8 deal of my time providing information that many did not know .

  It was well known to me that none of my members had any desire to frequent these forums . As was the general feeling of many WGTers . For whatever reasons , players didn't come here . As a result they just didn't know stuff .

  So I did my best to explain it to my CC . Some of it I posted and learned here in these forums . Some of it came from playing experience .

  I even went so far as creating tutorials which I posted in our CC website .

  These helped a lot of players . Even if it was from my perspective . Which may have been different . But was not wrong .

  There has never been a question as to the validity of my information . Of course with the exception of a few of the locals . Lol .

  I also saw the end of what I / we knew as WGT , approaching very quickly .

  A couple years ago . I took on a couple few tribute projects that I used a lot of the lists that I had saved as the basis for . And a GR8 amount of research .

  I had met and learned and appreciated so many players over the years . That I was compelled to pay tribute to them . And I did . In several different tributes .

  I don't know why exactly . I just felt I needed to do that in case this all ended and I never got a chance to thank everyone .

  WGT sure wasn't going to recognize any of the GR8's . Or pay tribute . Or thank for making them rich . Or appreciate the many that guided the WGT Universe to the unforeseeable heights that this GR8 game achieved . Mega times better than if WGT themselves had been left to show the way .

  They certainly dropped the ball all throughout the " Magnificent Flash Era " .

  Then completely blundered the " Mobile Format ". By not even providing to the mobile participants . The information as to how this game was to be played . How to tier up . How to lower ones average . How to utilize ranked rounds . All of which opened up the levels that allow one to upgrade their equipment as they rise up .

  I sometimes wish I didn't have this need to share . As it is always long winded . I am a hen peck typer . And it takes forfreakinever .

  Contrary to what some believe . I am not trying to post as much as I can . Or as many posts as I can . No desire for either of those .

  There are so many experts in these forums that I have learned from over the years . Many many in classes of their own that I GR8ly respect . Like the players I have played with and the CC members . I feel privileged to know and associate with .

  So I continue to be plagued with connection issues . So much that I really can't play multiplayer stroke play or alt shot .

  I found a little better success at getting games in the coin rooms . Probably because with 3 hole rounds a failure is quick and I can try again and again and again . It is so frustrating though . And am getting burned out on the coin rooms . Am already burned out on SINGLE PLAYER UNLIMITED PLAY rounds . I am not progressing and do not enjoy solo play any longer .

  I assume I am not alone on the fence . But I have seen that PCEA is nearly exactly the same as the old Flash . Just without all the cool features . And harder for me to connect to .

  I was recently released from a particularly long spell on moderation ( just under 4 years ) . Not many can comprehend what a feeling that is . Hard to explain but very cool to be done with that nightmare .

  Although most of the " locals " have moved on . There are a few that remain that are harmless . And a couple new ones that seem to be a little obsessed and with a tinge of disgust or hatred . That I feel there is no place for in these forums .

  I will no longer participate in the Forums .


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subject title Re: THE AMAZING YET PATHETIC FORUMS

Post by Paul Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:09 pm

Most people know this already .
  By trying to add some information to a thread . In case one of the readers did not know some particulars on the topic  .
  Did you notice I said that was posting to readers . Players wanting to know more about a subject .
  I did not say I was trying to tell veterans , experts , trolls , arrogant sob's , pin heads . anything they did not know already .
  I wasn't talking to them .
  And even when they begin the baiting . I continue to post in/on topic . Not letting myself get affected yet . ( dumb of me to be here for that to even happen ) . Not realizing right away just quite the extent of the misconstruing and taking the content out of context . Until it is too late . There is too much of it . There are too many twists and turns . I could never fix it or get it right . By reexplaining the truth . They would never allow that .
  I will try a couple times to put things back into the proper context . While trying very hard not to counter the insults and condescending accusations and the twisted take on my words .
  But there is no way . No way to fix it or change it in the forums .
  I find a little solace knowing that most reasonable people see all that . What most won't understand is why if I know they are trolling me ? Would I allow it to continue .
  I will try to explain it . If you look at my responses . I am only half assed refuting their comments . I am not insulting them back . I am not agitated . Not in the least . Thinking if I stay that line . It will eventually work out and the truth will be known .
  Really that is what I think . Even knowing that isn't going to happen . I honestly don't see how stupid I look by trying to be civil and level headed .
  I have done it time and time again . Eventually moving past the thread(s) and the topic(s) . Most everyone forgetting all about it . Especially me .
  But now there are a couple newbie trolls . Some real deep haters . That have a knack for it . Enjoy picking the most trivial and twisting to demean at the lowest depths .
  In the perfect environment for it . Where most of the crew are long time friends and associates with the boss . The highest boss in this division .
  And have been given a green light to practice and train and refine their skills , with no filters .To never before allowed or seen levels . Continually raising the crowbar . Then dropping it . Then raising it even higher . Repeatedly over and over . For over a decade .
 They become quite accomplished . Somebody like myself . Doesn't have a prayer .
  I never did .  never thought I did . I also have never questioned any of their golfing skills or their prowess of the English language . If I did . It was in response of an attack of the same initiated by them . And in a rarity . Probably something I did not mean. Very out of character . But totally excusable . If it were anyone else . It would be completely shined on. Not magnified and emphasized as the biggest truth I ever told . Lol .
  Even knowing their intentions . And knowing who I am . They have accomplished their goal . The first few years that this occurred . Every time I came to these forums and faced the music . My heart sank . I mean it it really sunk . trying to pull me to the floor . No video thank god . But I could respond . Never let on .
  By now I am numb . So bad . That it bothers me that it doesn't bother me . It has been so many years since I had any fun or a good time here . I can barely remember just a few of those good times . All of a sudden all memories are of the last few years . The struggles with my internet connection . Which after last nights update . Is basically non existent . The only format left for me to play is the SINGLE PLAYER UNLIMITED PLAY STROKE PLAY TOURNAMENTS . Which I am completely burned out on . Just cannot play solo rounds anymore . 
  All the BS in these forums . Mostly with the moderators .
  But no doubt . Not to many pleasant memories in the forums . In fact none .
  It's a good thing to be numb . Other wise I could hate this place . Or become a hater myself . If I did that . Just think . I could be having as much fun as them . Right ? Lol not .


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