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ARCHIVES 2014 It's been a while since I expressed some of my objectives for the CC . First of all I like and respect everyone that joins our club . I realize that not everyone knows what a CC is all about . Many have different reasons for joining . I really don't know how many of the other clubs are run . They are all different . What I want to emphasize in our CC is that whatever tier you are . That you feel comfortable here , part of a team of players that come here to find conditions that enable them to improve their game , hone their skills , lower their scores ,lower their averages , move up in tiers . Enjoyably and comfortably with the conditions that challenge them enough to keep that drive without the frustrations of regular game play . All that is completely possible by either creating those tourneys yourself or by messaging me about it . Or someone else in your tier that has been creating tourneys . Any kind of information that you need to know should be provided here , any kind of appp , calculator , help , tutorial , tournament , statistic , message , opinion , gripe , compliment , etc , etc . Should able to be aqcuired here ( or in our website , as it may be easier there ). With your help , all of this can be done easily . We already have a good start . I am going to be here for a very long time trying to achieve all this . For any of you that think it's a good direction for your CC to go in . Then lets keep on keepin on . Sincerely , Your Co team member PDB1 , Paul ( sitting here on a rare rainy day ) May the SUN always be with you
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Re: Where are the Flags ?By Bertasion in Valley of the Sun Casual Club The other day upon the heather fair I hit a flagstick that was not there. I saw it's shadow and heard the clank but where it stood was just a blank. It was not there again today. I wonder when it will come back and stay. Brian
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by Paul Mon 27 Mar 2023, 3:00 pm
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TO VARIOUS CC OWNERS THAT I SEE THAT ARE ACTIVE THEMSELVES . BUT SEEM TO NOT KNOW THE MANY RESPONSIBILITIES AND FUNCTIONS AND BENEFITS AVAILABLE TO THEM
RATHER THAN POST A BUNCHJ OF DIFFERENT LINK(S) TO MY WEBSITE . .
I am going to copy and paste a few excerpts here on this WGT page . No I really do not know why I feel compelled to help them . Just like running a CC . This is time consuming , thankless ,
And most importantly . My opinions and observations only . Only posted as some possible suggestions that may or may not help or interest them .
AS A CC OWNER . YOU HAVE OBLIGATIONS AND RESPONSIBILITIES . TO PROVIDE AN OUTSTANDING ENVIRONMENT FOR YOUR MEMBERS TO ENJOY AND THRIVE . TO HAVE THE BEST POSSIBLE WGT EXPERIENCE .
THIS SHOULD BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY . OR YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE CREATED A CC .
LABEL YOUR MEMBERS FOR WHO & WHAT THEY ARE :
After you ( the owner ) has assigned the various ranks of your members . By putting some thought into it . And clicking the 3 little dots next to each member on the home page .
Director(s) , Veteran(s) , Member(s) , Recruit(s) .
This is the owners tools permissions page ( this is how they used to look , I don't know if this has changed ) .
You can then assign permissions in the 7 categories below .
There is also a CC Forum . Can/should be used to provide any and every kind of information about WGT , CC's , Tiering up , lowering ones average , specifics of all CC tournaments , The benefits of building and growing a CC/group/team of WGT online virtual golf lovers . Information about all the playing formats in WGT . What ranked rounds are . All about brackets CC & WGT , CC Stroke Tournaments that are Tiered Single Player Unlimited Play with customizable conditions ( unlike the WGT Tiered Single Player Unlimited Play tournaments that are all default settings and can be very boring . Same tournaments except withe ability to change them up and learn the courses from many variations . ( The single most valuable format in WGT CC Tiered Single Player Unlimited Play tournaments ) .
The CC forum should/will be the go to place for all CC members to learn about special events , all over WGT .
A place for all members to share and learn and expand their knowledge . In the process of building and creating one of the most awesome teams you will ever be involved with in your entire life .
I was just going to copy and paste and here I am typing . Lol .
CC HOPES :
The hope for what occurs in a CC is that the very best environment is provided for all members of all tiers to enable them to hone their skills , lower their averages , and move up in tiers , and to have fun doing it with little or no other expectations .
All that can easily be the case playing in the well made CC tourneys . Friending and learning from and playing matches with all of your CC members .
By keeping current with what sometimes is critical information posted by various members in your WGT CC Forum .
FRIENDING :
Friending a WGT CC member is the same thing as shaking the hand of a team mate . Period . Here in your CC especially . You have nothing to fear from the members in your very cool CC . Much to gain though .
First friending a CC members only does a few things .
1) enables a green dot when available available only means that their computer is on and are logged into WGT and are not in the middle of a multi player round . Does not mean they are staring at their computer screen waiting for invites to decline .
2) enables WGT PM messaging ( top of friends profile page not yours ) . Which allows one to communicate to one another . Communicate welcome and interesting messages as there would be no other reason for a fellow CC member to message you .
3) Opens a unique and elite pipeline of communication of opportunity bteween the always awsome and interesting and friendly members of your CC that are always more than willing to step up and back you up and help in anyway more than any other place in WGT.
Friending someone in WGT does not disclose any personal information about yourself . Other than you too are an awesome member of your CC .
A GOOD START :
The events , the formats , the features , the information , the guidance , the encouragement , the support , etc . Is all in place .
RECRUITMENT :
Developing a plan for recruiting members will cause you to ask yourself some very important questions. These questions are basic to just about any recruitment effort. I believe your answers to these questions will be the building blocks for your own recruitment plan. They are:
Why do you want or need members?
How many members do you need?
What kind of members do you need?
Who is going to find and get the new members?
Where are the new members?
When is a good time to look for new members?
How should you approach potential members?
What happens if you get a yes, a maybe, or a no?
What are some obstacles you may encounter? And how do you get around them?
Who's going to find them? Determining who finds and gets the new members is essential to your planning. You and your staff can plan together the approaches you will use to get the people you need.
.
RECRUITERS :
Don't be shy about delegating responsibility. If you have people available to help you recruit, make those people as useful as possible. Assign different recruitment tasks to different people. Don't just tell all of your people to go out there and get members. That will most definitely waste your time and possibly that of potential members too.
Recruiters do not have to be Directors or Veterans . You can assign any title that you feel the CC could benefit from . With the agreement of your members of course .
Recruiters , Tournament specialists ( makers ) for various tiers , human relations , statistitions , CLASH Foreman , etc whatever you want . And they will be official . In your CC only .
TOURNAMENT MAKING :
I have a lot of ideas ( outside the box on this subjest ) . But no one says it better than Jim .
By JimQ916
Hi all you great members.....hope you're having a great Sunday. I previously posted a few suggestions in the forum concerning the CC Tournament set up that some members liked and some not so much. Taking everything into consideration I have thought about how to have more members sign up and complete the Tournaments they have signed up for. Here are my suggestions
1) Time period....I suggest a minimum of 3 days (ideally 5) to complete a round / tournament:
***I've found that tournaments set up for 3 days or less has numerous members who don't / can't finish their rounds in time. Many members have jobs / family / obligations that prevent them from playing daily and / or even every 3 days so they can't finish in time. There are also numerous other things in our club to do (Blitz / Bracket / Specialty Tournaments) that crunch a members ability to play what they want and consider our CC Tournaments as not a priority (last on the of things to do list).
2) How many Rounds...I suggest no more than 2 but any amount is up to you
*** I've found that Tournaments set up for 1 or 2 rounds have more participation and less members who sign up and don't play, or withdraw because of the length. Tournaments set up for 4 rounds have numerous members who play a round or 2 then either drop out or don't have the the time to finish and WD (see #1 above)
3) Split Tiers....I suggest that most, if not all, Tournaments that are split up for Lower / Upper Tiers draw more people more complete the Tournaments
*** I've found that "All Tier Tournaments" are dominated by the L - TL's with the lower tier members finishing usually 6th or worse at best. I understand that the "All Tier" set up is preferred by some but the idea of "Split Tier Tournaments (H - TM and L - TL) would allow every member entered to compete against players of similar skills with a chance to Win. I find it frustrating to post a 32 - 33 and get beat by 5 - 6 strokes thus I avoid these "All Tier Tournaments" with many other lower Tier members avoiding them also.
4) Green Speeds / Wind / Tee's...I suggest that the green speeds be set up with the default speed used by WGT.
*** I've found that the green speeds be used in the set up of a Tournament sometimes influences a player to play or not. For the "Lower Tier" Players make the speeds Fast - Very Fast and the "Upper Tier" either Tournament - Championship. You can choose the difficulty of a Tournament by moving around the tee's and adjusting wind speed. Every so often have a Tournament set up with faster green speed but make those few and far between. I myself, being just a Master, putt on VF greens but also enjoy playing on Tournament greens from time to time and Championship greens and up just kick my butt. Also, take into account the difficulty of the course being played... i recently screwed up by making a Tournament (at Brandon) with impossible green speeds for that course.
5) 9 or 18 Holes...I suggest that most, if not all, tournaments be 9 hole rounds and not 18
*** Once again I screwed up when I set up the Brandon Tournament and made the rounds 18 holes and not 2 rounds of 9 each. I should have set the Tournament up for 2 rounds (1st one front 9, second round Back 9) and never gave a thought to all the time constraints of the members (see #1 above) when I did it.
6) Entry Fee....I suggest that Tournaments be set up for a minimal amount of credits to enter (10 - 20 - 30)
I've found that the Tournaments that have a "low" entry fee attracts more members than one's that have a higher fee to join, especially in "All Tiered" Tournaments. Also, no pay Tournaments sometimes have numerous members joining or just a couple...flip of the coin. At our CC level we're allowed to have 12 free and 12 pay Tournaments going at once. See where we are in the amount of Tournaments there are but let's try to have 10 and 10 going at once. If we have all 24 set up there's no room for the Bracket Tournaments to be set up nor any other "Specialty" Tournaments, such as the "Starter Equipment" Tournaments.
OK, that about covers what I feel would be ideal to attract members to join and also finish any CC Tournaments that are set up. I beg all members to consider setting up CC Tournaments and do so anyway you see fit.....these are just things I've noticed since becoming the Tournament Directer and checking each Tournament daily. Once again, these are only my suggestions and not requirements to set them up........Have a great Sunday......Jim
^^^^<<<<>>>>^^^^
I will continue to add various excerpts from time to time .
GOOD LINKS TO KNOW :
Country Club Corner
HOW DO I GET UP IN THE CLUB ?
https://www.wgt.com/help-flash.aspx#cc
TO VARIOUS CC OWNERS THAT I SEE THAT ARE ACTIVE THEMSELVES . BUT SEEM TO NOT KNOW THE MANY RESPONSIBILITIES AND FUNCTIONS AND BENEFITS AVAILABLE TO THEM
RATHER THAN POST A BUNCHJ OF DIFFERENT LINK(S) TO MY WEBSITE . .
I am going to copy and paste a few excerpts here on this WGT page . No I really do not know why I feel compelled to help them . Just like running a CC . This is time consuming , thankless ,
And most importantly . My opinions and observations only . Only posted as some possible suggestions that may or may not help or interest them .
AS A CC OWNER . YOU HAVE OBLIGATIONS AND RESPONSIBILITIES . TO PROVIDE AN OUTSTANDING ENVIRONMENT FOR YOUR MEMBERS TO ENJOY AND THRIVE . TO HAVE THE BEST POSSIBLE WGT EXPERIENCE .
THIS SHOULD BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY . OR YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE CREATED A CC .
LABEL YOUR MEMBERS FOR WHO & WHAT THEY ARE :
After you ( the owner ) has assigned the various ranks of your members . By putting some thought into it . And clicking the 3 little dots next to each member on the home page .
Director(s) , Veteran(s) , Member(s) , Recruit(s) .
This is the owners tools permissions page ( this is how they used to look , I don't know if this has changed ) .
You can then assign permissions in the 7 categories below .
There is also a CC Forum . Can/should be used to provide any and every kind of information about WGT , CC's , Tiering up , lowering ones average , specifics of all CC tournaments , The benefits of building and growing a CC/group/team of WGT online virtual golf lovers . Information about all the playing formats in WGT . What ranked rounds are . All about brackets CC & WGT , CC Stroke Tournaments that are Tiered Single Player Unlimited Play with customizable conditions ( unlike the WGT Tiered Single Player Unlimited Play tournaments that are all default settings and can be very boring . Same tournaments except withe ability to change them up and learn the courses from many variations . ( The single most valuable format in WGT CC Tiered Single Player Unlimited Play tournaments ) .
The CC forum should/will be the go to place for all CC members to learn about special events , all over WGT .
A place for all members to share and learn and expand their knowledge . In the process of building and creating one of the most awesome teams you will ever be involved with in your entire life .
I was just going to copy and paste and here I am typing . Lol .
CC HOPES :
The hope for what occurs in a CC is that the very best environment is provided for all members of all tiers to enable them to hone their skills , lower their averages , and move up in tiers , and to have fun doing it with little or no other expectations .
All that can easily be the case playing in the well made CC tourneys . Friending and learning from and playing matches with all of your CC members .
By keeping current with what sometimes is critical information posted by various members in your WGT CC Forum .
FRIENDING :
Friending a WGT CC member is the same thing as shaking the hand of a team mate . Period . Here in your CC especially . You have nothing to fear from the members in your very cool CC . Much to gain though .
First friending a CC members only does a few things .
1) enables a green dot when available available only means that their computer is on and are logged into WGT and are not in the middle of a multi player round . Does not mean they are staring at their computer screen waiting for invites to decline .
2) enables WGT PM messaging ( top of friends profile page not yours ) . Which allows one to communicate to one another . Communicate welcome and interesting messages as there would be no other reason for a fellow CC member to message you .
3) Opens a unique and elite pipeline of communication of opportunity bteween the always awsome and interesting and friendly members of your CC that are always more than willing to step up and back you up and help in anyway more than any other place in WGT.
Friending someone in WGT does not disclose any personal information about yourself . Other than you too are an awesome member of your CC .
A GOOD START :
The events , the formats , the features , the information , the guidance , the encouragement , the support , etc . Is all in place .
RECRUITMENT :
Developing a plan for recruiting members will cause you to ask yourself some very important questions. These questions are basic to just about any recruitment effort. I believe your answers to these questions will be the building blocks for your own recruitment plan. They are:
Why do you want or need members?
How many members do you need?
What kind of members do you need?
Who is going to find and get the new members?
Where are the new members?
When is a good time to look for new members?
How should you approach potential members?
What happens if you get a yes, a maybe, or a no?
What are some obstacles you may encounter? And how do you get around them?
Who's going to find them? Determining who finds and gets the new members is essential to your planning. You and your staff can plan together the approaches you will use to get the people you need.
.
RECRUITERS :
Don't be shy about delegating responsibility. If you have people available to help you recruit, make those people as useful as possible. Assign different recruitment tasks to different people. Don't just tell all of your people to go out there and get members. That will most definitely waste your time and possibly that of potential members too.
Recruiters do not have to be Directors or Veterans . You can assign any title that you feel the CC could benefit from . With the agreement of your members of course .
Recruiters , Tournament specialists ( makers ) for various tiers , human relations , statistitions , CLASH Foreman , etc whatever you want . And they will be official . In your CC only .
TOURNAMENT MAKING :
I have a lot of ideas ( outside the box on this subjest ) . But no one says it better than Jim .
By JimQ916
Hi all you great members.....hope you're having a great Sunday. I previously posted a few suggestions in the forum concerning the CC Tournament set up that some members liked and some not so much. Taking everything into consideration I have thought about how to have more members sign up and complete the Tournaments they have signed up for. Here are my suggestions
1) Time period....I suggest a minimum of 3 days (ideally 5) to complete a round / tournament:
***I've found that tournaments set up for 3 days or less has numerous members who don't / can't finish their rounds in time. Many members have jobs / family / obligations that prevent them from playing daily and / or even every 3 days so they can't finish in time. There are also numerous other things in our club to do (Blitz / Bracket / Specialty Tournaments) that crunch a members ability to play what they want and consider our CC Tournaments as not a priority (last on the of things to do list).
2) How many Rounds...I suggest no more than 2 but any amount is up to you
*** I've found that Tournaments set up for 1 or 2 rounds have more participation and less members who sign up and don't play, or withdraw because of the length. Tournaments set up for 4 rounds have numerous members who play a round or 2 then either drop out or don't have the the time to finish and WD (see #1 above)
3) Split Tiers....I suggest that most, if not all, Tournaments that are split up for Lower / Upper Tiers draw more people more complete the Tournaments
*** I've found that "All Tier Tournaments" are dominated by the L - TL's with the lower tier members finishing usually 6th or worse at best. I understand that the "All Tier" set up is preferred by some but the idea of "Split Tier Tournaments (H - TM and L - TL) would allow every member entered to compete against players of similar skills with a chance to Win. I find it frustrating to post a 32 - 33 and get beat by 5 - 6 strokes thus I avoid these "All Tier Tournaments" with many other lower Tier members avoiding them also.
4) Green Speeds / Wind / Tee's...I suggest that the green speeds be set up with the default speed used by WGT.
*** I've found that the green speeds be used in the set up of a Tournament sometimes influences a player to play or not. For the "Lower Tier" Players make the speeds Fast - Very Fast and the "Upper Tier" either Tournament - Championship. You can choose the difficulty of a Tournament by moving around the tee's and adjusting wind speed. Every so often have a Tournament set up with faster green speed but make those few and far between. I myself, being just a Master, putt on VF greens but also enjoy playing on Tournament greens from time to time and Championship greens and up just kick my butt. Also, take into account the difficulty of the course being played... i recently screwed up by making a Tournament (at Brandon) with impossible green speeds for that course.
5) 9 or 18 Holes...I suggest that most, if not all, tournaments be 9 hole rounds and not 18
*** Once again I screwed up when I set up the Brandon Tournament and made the rounds 18 holes and not 2 rounds of 9 each. I should have set the Tournament up for 2 rounds (1st one front 9, second round Back 9) and never gave a thought to all the time constraints of the members (see #1 above) when I did it.
6) Entry Fee....I suggest that Tournaments be set up for a minimal amount of credits to enter (10 - 20 - 30)
I've found that the Tournaments that have a "low" entry fee attracts more members than one's that have a higher fee to join, especially in "All Tiered" Tournaments. Also, no pay Tournaments sometimes have numerous members joining or just a couple...flip of the coin. At our CC level we're allowed to have 12 free and 12 pay Tournaments going at once. See where we are in the amount of Tournaments there are but let's try to have 10 and 10 going at once. If we have all 24 set up there's no room for the Bracket Tournaments to be set up nor any other "Specialty" Tournaments, such as the "Starter Equipment" Tournaments.
OK, that about covers what I feel would be ideal to attract members to join and also finish any CC Tournaments that are set up. I beg all members to consider setting up CC Tournaments and do so anyway you see fit.....these are just things I've noticed since becoming the Tournament Directer and checking each Tournament daily. Once again, these are only my suggestions and not requirements to set them up........Have a great Sunday......Jim
^^^^<<<<>>>>^^^^
I will continue to add various excerpts from time to time .
GOOD LINKS TO KNOW :
Country Club Corner
HOW DO I GET UP IN THE CLUB ?
https://www.wgt.com/help-flash.aspx#cc
WGT CC'S . WHAT ARE THEY ?
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